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undiagnosed mama, needed advice
« on: May 23, 2006, 03:07:59 PM »
Hi everyone! this is my first post, so bear with me!! in may of 2005 i gave birth to our fifth baby, immediately following his birth i went from a lifetime of blessed wonderful health to the beginning of many health symptoms that have gone undiagnosed for over a year now. my symptoms began 10 minutes after giving birth,  my symptoms included lightheadedness, chest pains or tightness, anxious unsure feeling,  very fatigued, dryness in mouth, loss of appetite short of breath and raspy voice , my heartrate dropped to the low 50's normally i am upper 70's. nutrition health and exercise has been a high priority for the past 3 years, however i am just now learning so much about organics and herbs!! our life style is changing by the day! these symptoms since the hospital have come and gone  throughout this past year. at first they gradually got worse with more developing symptoms like, weird pressures in my head, dizziness, back and shoulder pain, sore shaky muscles, joint pain, muscle weakness, tingeling in my hands and feet, numbness in my face, that happened just a few times, lately my hands have been falling asleep at night, sometimes just half my hand other times my whole hand, they are always tight and arthritic in the mornings. my right leg has fallen asleep at night as well a few times. two months after this all started my vision changed. 5 months after this started  my symptoms improved for about 3 months during that time i quit breastfeeding and with my first period the symptoms started coming back , that was in January. they have steadily gotten worse with the numbness being my latest new symptom. Ihave had hormonal testing done a number of times  they all come back normal, I regularly go to the chiropractor, i have had a MRI of my chest and lungs done to check for blood clots , i had  a CAT scan done of my head to check for tumors, i have been to the eyedr. several times Evan a specialist, I have had a gtt test done for blood sugars, i am hypoglycemic, at the end of the test my bloodsugars fell to 34. i had a Lyme disease test done, early on that came back negative, however after reviewing the Lyme disease articles here i am going in for retesting tomorrow. i have every one of the symptoms for it except a fever and rash at least that i know of. every test i have taken has come back that i am healthy as ever except the gtt test which i have found out can be unreliable. at my last chiropractor appointment my blood pressure was a little high ,the bottom number was 86 normally it is in the low 70's. my chiropractor is suggesting it might be hormone related, my medical Dr disagrees, she is ready to send me to a neurologist. i have done the makers diet and i noticed relatively no change. we have been on our knees crying out to God for direction and guidance, we have taken the month of may  to step back from Dr's, and cry out to God. my prayer life has been dynamic , my spiritual life has been renewed and is so refreshing, praise the Lord!
 any advise would so be appreciated!
Melanie

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Re: undiagnosed mama, needed advice
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2006, 07:33:39 PM »
Wow, hang in there.  The answer to your prayer is coming.

Start by reading this thread (click here) and see if any of this sounds familiar.  You have many more symptoms than most people, but it sounds like you're fighting severe Candida.
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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2006, 08:15:22 AM »
Thanks so much for the info.  i will definitely look into it, just wondering though, i have never had any stomact problems or bowel problems. i have had a heartburn like feeling at times and just a few stomact aches, nothing that keeps coming back.
the diet sounds awful for the Candida, however it would be wonderful to be healthy again!
When i was on the makers diet, the first two weeks you eat basically meat, eggs , vegetables, and berries. those two weeks i just had a general yucky feeling, then the next few weeks you add in fruits, those were my best weeks on the diet . the last two weeks you add soaked grains  in and at that time i began having my old symptoms back. i don't know if that would have anything to do with the yeast thing or not. it's so hard to tell because my symptoms seem to come and go  for whatever reason, i have not been able to put a finger on anything yet.
i remember the week before i started the makers diet i had felt pretty good, go figure?!
thanks for any advice!!
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Re: undiagnosed mama, needed advice
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2006, 05:02:03 AM »
I don't know if this will help, but this sounds very simular to what my grandmother is going through. I would check into tp things: Celiac's (sp.?) disease or Chron's. It would make sense since you seem to not tollerate gluten. And, because it is a digestive disorder, candida may also contribute. Be fore warned, most U.S. doctors do not like to diagnose Celiacs, It's a European thing. TRy cutting grains with gluten out of your diet and supplementing with a probiotic.

 Also, with your symptoms being influenced by hormone influctuations¬† make sure your thyroid is functioning ok. My mom had all kinds of weird symptoms with her thyroid disorder. Be incouraged though, she has gained coltroll over it and uses no meds even though her thyroid dysfunction was SEVERE. I also need to add that she really belives her thyroid problems were contributed to by her severe allergies. My mom really strongly feels Celiacs disease along with thyroid, hormones and allergies (actually your whole endocrin system) are somehow all related because of her experience dealing with her own health problems that now no longer plauge her. Trust me she was plauged!
Here is what she does:
She supplements with a probiotic, cultured vitamins and a superfood; avoids allergens: grains(she tolerates sprouted grains well), dairy(she can have cream, butter cheese but no milk, yogurt or whey), mold, yeast(in alcohol) ;avoids processed foods: refined sugar and grains. She also takes Maca (she ONLY buys it from Medicine Pants because there is a lot of junk out there, google for it) to stimulate her endocrine system.

ONE BIG WARNING: Large doses of vitamin B-12 or 6 (like what's in the E'mergen-C packets)has caused her Big problems. This is why she takes a superfood and a cultured vitamin (no isolates or synthetics!). OTC vitamins and prescribed ones have the same effect and they are not good. As a side note to this I have a very good friend who started to take a diet/energy supplement with high doses of the B vitamin isolates and now is having hormonal changes; she is only 31.
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« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2006, 05:09:33 AM »
With a myriad of unexplained symptoms (including some you mentioned) over the years, my husband and I have both been helped by The Mind-Body Connection by John E. Sarno, M.D.

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« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2006, 05:23:36 AM »
Thanks for sharing everyone.
A questian for mommytimesfour, did your grandmother go to a specialist of any kind to be diagnosed? I will try the special diet, without gluten. do you know if I can have Ezekiel bread with that?
I will also look into the book The mind body connection, thanks for the info.!!
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« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2006, 05:37:13 AM »
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« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2006, 01:11:34 PM »
I would suggest having your adrenal glands tested.  A LOT of what you said I can relate to, I had the same thing happen three weeks after giving birth to my first son.  Thankfully I was finally able to go to a natural MD who tested my adrenal glands through a saliva test, and found out that I was very low.  If you go to a regular MD they won't test you right, if you can find an alternative Dr. or Chiro, hopefully they would know how to test.  Let me know if you need more info. Also, you could try going to www.adrenalfatigue.org and see if you can relate to what is talked about.  I'm SO SORRY.  I have been there!

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« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2006, 09:57:01 AM »
Mama of 5,
I can relate very much to what you are going through.  I have been dealing with many of the same health problems as you described, although not all of mine are similar.  For me, it does seem to be hormonal in origin, as the problems have only cropped up since I had my daughter 4 years ago.  For me, the main problem has been unexplained secondary infertlity and a constant earache that had baffled several doctors.  I also have had chest pain, joint pain, numbness in legs and hands, racing heartbeat, etc.  I have had many blood tests and saliva tests all saying that I am healthy.  I am about to turn 25 and have been eating well and exercising ever since high school so it is very puzzling as to why all these things have come up.  I think a lot of doctors I have seen think that I am a hypochondriac:)  It has been an interesting journey.  My husband and I have also felt like we need to step back from doctors and ask God what He would have us do.  I am so thankful for the joy of the Lord and how it sustains me daily despite not feeling tops all of the time.  God is faithful!  I just wanted to encourage you in that and let you know that I will be praying for you and your family.
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« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2006, 12:01:48 PM »
For me, the main problem has been ... a constant earache that had baffled several doctors. 

I had this problem for a very long time.  Q-tips eventually began to produce white furry stuff and then black stuff (after a couple of years of aching).  I finally went to an ear-nose-throat guy and I actually had fungus growing in my ears.  It's very painful and both of my regular doctors couldn't figure out what was the matter.  It came back after the specialist treated it, so I just started pouring alcohol in my ears regularly for about 10 minutes at a time in each ear.  This dried it out and it quit.  I am pretty sure that this is related to a body overrun with candida.
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« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2006, 01:15:51 PM »
Healthybratt, do you know if there are any reliable lab tests to prove that one has a candida overgrowth?  My husband was wondering this.  Also doctors I have seen are skeptical without concrete proof in labs.  Thanks for your info and advice.  I will look into the yeast thing more thouroughly.  Tell me, what have you found most effective in combating your yeast issues? 
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« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2006, 02:00:17 PM »
Healthybratt, do you know if there are any reliable lab tests to prove that one has a candida overgrowth?  My husband was wondering this.  Also doctors I have seen are skeptical without concrete proof in labs.  Thanks for your info and advice.  I will look into the yeast thing more thouroughly.  Tell me, what have you found most effective in combating your yeast issues? 
jennyho

I've never been tested.  I don't know if there is a legit medical test.  I did do the spit test and failed, but I'm not sure how accurate this is.  I had so many obvious symptoms (skin rashes, ear problems, vaginitis, and "dandruff", chronic fatigue, digestive problems and trouble losing weight) and much relief from treatment that it wasn't hard to tell I self-diagnosed correctly.  Try this questionaire to see if you fit the bill.

Sugar was the biggest factor.  Cut it out.  I eat milk and wheat sugars and natural starches (potatoes, etc) fairly regularly but I cut these out while treating for candida as well.  I also took the yeast assassin, and tummy tune-up.  I also used my hair rinse as a topical treatment (vinegar, peppermint, lavender and chamomile).  Lavender and ACVinegar are both anti-fungal. 

Over the years before I started natural healing, I used anti-fungal creams and orals of every kind and they worked temporarily but never kicked it altogether.  I think if you want meds, lamisil and nystatin are probably the most effective, but I can't vouch for them as far as side effects go.  I didn't suffer any noticible side - effects, but over the long haul, you just never know.

Anyway, killing the yeast is the most obvious need, but even after the yeast is gone, if you don't recolonize your gut with helpful microbes, the yeast will just keep coming back.  You might not notice it right away, but trust me it will come back.  You need some probiotics.  I personally took supplements, but eating fermented foods is supposed to be a natural resource.  Kimchee, sour kraut, buttermilk, yogurt, kefir, etc.  Yogurt never did much for me in the past, but I was so overrun with Candida, I just don't think it was enough to keep up.
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« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2006, 03:58:30 PM »
My grandmother's diagnosis did not come from her reg. MD. It came casually from my step uncle who is a very skilled doctor. I will not go through all his qualifications but will suffice it to say he is world renowned, sought after by top hospitals, used by the NFL and Olympians. I trust his judgement. Anyway, he is going to meet with my grandma here in a month or so for a consultation.
About the Ezekiel bread: most blends do have gluten in it.

Sounds like you've got enough advice to make your head spin. I hope and pray that you will do well in discerning what you need. God Bless!