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Gout: Symptoms, Causes & Cures
« on: August 22, 2006, 05:01:12 AM »
My poor neighbor is suffering from another bout of gout.  This is the fifth or sixth time he has had it in the past 12 months.  It is very painful and causes him to miss a week of work each time.  Does anyone know something that might help him.  I believe he has tried something with rasberry.  Any helpful ideas would be appreciated.  Thanks!

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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2006, 06:06:58 AM »
I personally have no experience and have not studied Gout at all but I spoke with a Beeyoutiful customer yesterday who has struggled with Gout for years.  She said that in her research she found that Gout seems to be linked to Candida overgrowth.  She said that the only thing that has gotten her relief out of all the things she has tried over the years has been Tummy Tune Up Original Blend.  I have no idea why a good pro biotic would make such an amazing difference in Gout but it has for her.  She ordered 6 more bottles of it because she didn't want to run out again.  ;D
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2006, 06:29:33 AM »
I don't have much information on gout, but my father in law suffers from it at times. He has been told that daily consumption of cherries is good for gout. So, he eats lots of cherries, even when he isn't having an episode. That about all I know.  :-\ He also found some relief when he drank aloe juice on a daily basis. Wish I could be more helpful.

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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2006, 06:42:31 AM »
Buy cherry juice from these people:

http://mi-cherries.com/

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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2006, 06:57:42 AM »
We are from MI and get cherries from an older couple that had trees on their property but they don't pick them anymore. :) But, that place looks great and we might need to try the juice. Gabe, do you know why the cherries are good for gout? Thanks.
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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2006, 07:00:29 AM »
No tofu, no soy.  I know most people on welltellme dont eat soy anyway, but I don't know about your neighbor.  Soy will raise the uric acid level a lot (as well as other things that he's probably well aware of!).
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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2006, 07:08:24 AM »
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We are from MI and get cherries from an older couple that had trees on their property but they don't pick them anymore.  :) But, that place looks great and we might need to try the juice. Gabe, do you know why the cherries are good for gout? Thanks.
Jessica

I really don't know off hand... I think its the anthocyanins... whatever those are. See this page:

http://www.mi-cherries.com/gout1.htm

The cherry juice they sell is made from tart Mont Morrency cherries that are very high in anthocyanins... actually all kinds of berries are high in anthocyanins. Blueberries, elderberries, black berries...

Probably any high intake of berries will help him!

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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2006, 07:11:41 AM »
I personally have no experience and have not studied Gout at all but I spoke with a Beeyoutiful customer yesterday who has struggled with Gout for years.  She said that in her research she found that Gout seems to be linked to Candida overgrowth.  She said that the only thing that has gotten her relief out of all the things she has tried over the years has been Tummy Tune Up Original Blend.  I have no idea why a good pro biotic would make such an amazing difference in Gout but it has for her.  She ordered 6 more bottles of it because she didn't want to run out again.  ;D

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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2006, 07:19:07 AM »
I mentioned something about Gout in the Meat causing arthritis thread.  My grandfather had it and was told to stay away from things that produce and abundance of uric acid in the tissues(meats, creams, rich foods), whenever he had a flare-up.  Definitely look into the yeast thing and try to stay away from those certain foods.  Is your neighbor into natural things?

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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2006, 08:34:26 AM »
I remember my sister saying after my dad had it that in the "old" days on the kings and rich people had gout b/c of the their diet.  The peasants never suffered with it b/c they didn't have an abundance of meat and rich foods like that.

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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2006, 04:47:06 PM »
Thank you all for your suggestions.  I will certainly pass this information along.  As far as I know my neighbor has never tried all natural things, but he is open to whatever may help.  I hope something helps.  Again, thank you all so much.

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« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2006, 06:03:33 AM »
My dear F-I-L has terrible gout right now to the point of not being able to walk.  Anyone have first-hand experience??  Any suggestions regarding nutrition & supplements?  Thanks a million!

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« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2006, 06:17:53 AM »
Could you tell me how it acts? My dh was diagnosed with RA, but i often wondered about gout. Sorry i can't help you. :-[

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« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2006, 07:02:01 AM »
From what I know of gout it is caused by too much rich protein foods, such as red meats, dairy, creams, etc., but this was classified under testing of the meat and milk that is in the store.  I am wondering if raw and unpasteurized milk, and organic meat would make it different.  I would cut out all forms of meat and dairy for awhile.  Take some anti-inflammatory herbs for rellief such as:  tumeric, cherries, pineapple.
Sometimes rheumatoid arthiritis is actually an undiagnosed allergic reaction to the nightshade vegetables: peppers, eggplants, tomatoes. 

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« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2006, 07:32:49 AM »
My husband has suffered from GOUT off and on for years. Diet is not always related, but stress does seem to play a large part! What we do for John is increase excersize (as pain allows) and lots and lots of water.
For an inflamed case sour cherry juice (works better than sweet ::)  ) Ceder berries. and increaseed water will do the trick, for him.

My FIL also suffers from this and the Dr. gives him a drug and a diet the diet restrictions seem to change from year to year.  :o so i would say you need to be looking at anything different that might contribute.
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« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2006, 07:42:26 AM »
From what I know of gout it is caused by too much rich protein foods, such as red meats, dairy, creams, etc., but this was classified under testing of the meat and milk that is in the store.  I am wondering if raw and unpasteurized milk, and organic meat would make it different.  I would cut out all forms of meat and dairy for awhile.  Take some anti-inflammatory herbs for rellief such as:  tumeric, cherries, pineapple.
Sometimes rheumatoid arthiritis is actually an undiagnosed allergic reaction to the nightshade vegetables: peppers, eggplants, tomatoes. 

Cherries and celery seed are good at relieving gout. Nettle leaf is also purported to help with the relief, also.

According to Dr. Mark Stengler,ND, a secret underlying cause of gout is insulin resistance! When people get gout, their doctor usually advises a "low purine diet" which is typically modest in protein and high in carbohydrates.  More than 75% of gout patients are actually resistant to insulin. To compensate, their bodies pump out much more insulin than normal. This in turn raises your levels of uric acid. And that’s what causes gout!

Bottom line: cut out carbs, alcohol and go with a plant-based diet. I'm sorry your FIL has to suffer with this--it is incredibly painful!

I pray he can find some relief.


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« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2006, 09:32:31 AM »
Check out --- icuredmygout.com --------- I tried it and it WORKS!!!!
Has some side affects though, Raises the blood presure so a DOC should be involved. I didn't & my blood presure climbed 30 point in two days, so I backed down on the Bicarb & streched it out for 3 weeks. Relieved some aches and pains I was putting to arthritist.
The worst side affect was that it rejuved my taste buds, man, everthing tastes SUPER GREAT now.

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« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2006, 09:52:18 AM »
Hey sorry about that but it's ------- icuredmygout.org -------------

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« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2006, 11:27:22 AM »
In my understanding gout is caused by high levels of uric acid. Excessive Uric acid is the result of improperly digested proteins and fats. Candida, diabeties, stress, lack of hydrochloric acid(drinking too much water/liquids with meals),diseased or stressed liver, and eating meat and milk  or possibly even carbs and proteins together are all things that can hinder proper digestion. That is why a digestive aid like TT might resolve the problem.
At one time while living with a poor family I got gout.My big toes hurt so bad in the joint I could hardly walk and I needed to climb mountains every day. I was just a teenager too!! Most of the little bit of meat we ate was high nitrate salami. I was also drinking some kind of tea they made (don't know what it was but it looked like small cranberries). Eliminating the tea took care of most of it. Cutting back on the meat and drinking lots and lots of water got rid of all the symptoms and kept them away. I am not sure what all the factors were in this situation. I am still trying to analyze all of that.

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« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2006, 05:53:30 AM »
  We thot for a long time that my dh. has RA, but he's starting to be convinced that it's something else. Does anyone have any experience with gout and treatment?

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« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2006, 07:27:42 AM »
I looked it up once for an uncle who has gout and the thing I suggested to him was celery. There were other things you could take (which I don't remember) but he likes celery and so it was something he would actually do. You can either eat celery every day (I think it was at least two stalks) or you can get celery seed extract.

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« Reply #21 on: December 24, 2006, 09:27:34 AM »
My father eats dried tart cherries for gout - but then, he's been doing that for years.  He says it works...maybe keeps it at bay.  Just my inexperienced $.02  :D
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« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2007, 02:44:18 PM »
I was researching potatoes when I saw this:

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A two-day diet of nothing but potatoes is sometimes recommended to flush excess fluid, & the toxins and waste products that fluid may contain, from the body & help purify the blood.  Simultaneously, the alkaline substances in the potato bind to urid-acid deposits & remove them from the body, thus relieving gout & arthritis. Eat 1 large, plain baked potato w/ the skin 5 times a day for 2 days.  Drink plenty of water. 

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« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2007, 05:23:06 AM »
I was researching potatoes when I saw this:

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A two-day diet of nothing but potatoes is sometimes recommended to flush excess fluid, & the toxins and waste products that fluid may contain, from the body & help purify the blood.  Simultaneously, the alkaline substances in the potato bind to urid-acid deposits & remove them from the body, thus relieving gout & arthritis. Eat 1 large, plain baked potato w/ the skin 5 times a day for 2 days.  Drink plenty of water. 

If I remember correctly, potatoes was one of the foods on the cabbage soup diet plan.  The one recommended for fast weight loss for surgery prep and things of that nature.  Maybe this is why ???
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« Reply #24 on: January 07, 2007, 12:43:38 PM »
   I need some encouragement and some wisdom. My dh. finally had the test done and he definitely has gout along with Ra, they think. He is now going into the third week of being pretty much flat on his back in a lot of pain. He is on organic sour cherry juice, liver cleanse herbs, he's doing coffee enema's, ( you know he's desperate) he's been fasting off and on and when he eats it's very little, he's been on natural deflammatory pills, i can't even remember what all he's tried. I've also been rubbing it with essential oils, and he feels like that really helps, but it just will not get better. He went to a joint specialist who basically did nothing but prescribe him a drug that was supposed to bring the inflammation down, it worked for about 2 days and quit. He finally quit everything cold turkey, at his wits end.

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« Reply #25 on: January 07, 2007, 01:29:32 PM »
   I need some encouragement and some wisdom. My dh. finally had the test done and he definitely has gout along with Ra, they think. He is now going into the third week of being pretty much flat on his back in a lot of pain. He is on organic sour cherry juice, liver cleanse herbs, he's doing coffee enema's, ( you know he's desperate) he's been fasting off and on and when he eats it's very little, he's been on natural deflammatory pills, i can't even remember what all he's tried. I've also been rubbing it with essential oils, and he feels like that really helps, but it just will not get better. He went to a joint specialist who basically did nothing but prescribe him a drug that was supposed to bring the inflammation down, it worked for about 2 days and quit. He finally quit everything cold turkey, at his wits end.

Hello, just to state up front, I have no personal experience with gout.  But after reading this post I went to try to find out WHAT gout is and came across this and it struck me as very interesting since it seems like your husband is getting no relief from the things you tried.  I don't know if the test they gave him was very and definitive or just a diagnosis, so maybe this has no bearing on his case, just a thought!  Mostly the 2nd paragraph interested me.  I got it here:  http://www.niams.nih.gov/hi/topics/gout/gout.htm#1

What Is Gout?
Gout is one of the most painful rheumatic diseases. It results from deposits of needle-like crystals of uric acid in connective tissue, in the joint space between two bones, or in both. These deposits lead to inflammatory arthritis, which causes swelling, redness, heat, pain, and stiffness in the joints. The term arthritis refers to more than 100 different rheumatic diseases that affect the joints, muscles, and bones, as well as other tissues and structures. Gout accounts for approximately 5 percent of all cases of arthritis.

Pseudogout is sometimes confused with gout because it produces similar symptoms of inflammation. However, in this condition, also called chondrocalcinosis, deposits are made up of calcium phosphate crystals, not uric acid. Therefore, pseudogout is treated somewhat differently and is not reviewed in this booklet.
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« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2007, 03:03:06 PM »
You might find something helpful in this article.  Based on what I read, I would treat for leaky gut and make sure to get L.Glutamine & Cod Liver Oil supplements right away.  I have no experience or expertese with Gout, but all my research has led me to believe that curing a leaky gut can help a plethera of problems including this one.  I wish only health & hope for you and your husband.  I pray the Lord will show you the answers soon.

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« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2007, 09:06:57 AM »
   Can anyone tell me what foods you can eat while having a gout attack. I know the foods you shouldn't eat and some you can, but wondering if someone has personal experience or knows someone that does.

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« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2007, 09:46:34 AM »
   Can anyone tell me what foods you can eat while having a gout attack. I know the foods you shouldn't eat and some you can, but wondering if someone has personal experience or knows someone that does.
I read in an article yesterday to avoid yeasty foods because they produce uric acid, but that's all I know.  Sorry.
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« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2007, 09:49:30 AM »
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