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Re: Making Cream/Salve
« Reply #120 on: January 30, 2008, 09:14:07 AM »
YEAH!  I did it!  I made my first cream, salve, lotion stuff! 
I'm so excited.  I didn't know if I should post it on the lotions thread or the salve thread so I'm posting it on both.

Here's what I did....
1/2 c EVOO
Vit. E oil from 5 capsules
1 t Lansinoh Lanolin
4 dried plantain leaves
1 large aloe leaf split and cut into pieces
1/4 c grated beeswax

I put all into a pyrex measuring cup.  Set the cup on my apple corer/slicer in the crock pot and had that about 1/2 full of water.  Turned it on high for a few hours and then low for a few more. 
I did the spoon in the fridge check and it turned out to be solid but still creamy enough to use easily.  I really like the consistancy.

So, that's where I'm at now.  I haven't taken it out of the crock yet because I don't know if I should let it 'cook' for more hours or even days.  It seems like some of you let it go for days..... is that how I should do it?  Then I'll strain it into a glass container.... (right?) :)




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Re: Making Cream/Salve
« Reply #121 on: January 30, 2008, 10:04:06 AM »
Does anyone have a ratio for grapefruit seed extract drops per oz of salve? I was reading Practical Herbalism and he doesn't give any more info than the fact that you can use GSE for preservation. Thanks!
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« Reply #122 on: February 08, 2008, 12:15:35 PM »
bump, Bump, BUMP!!! ;D

Does anyone have a ratio for grapefruit seed extract drops per oz of salve? I was reading Practical Herbalism and he doesn't give any more info than the fact that you can use GSE for preservation. Thanks!
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Re: Making Cream/Salve
« Reply #123 on: February 08, 2008, 02:13:21 PM »
bump, Bump, BUMP!!! ;D

Does anyone have a ratio for grapefruit seed extract drops per oz of salve? I was reading Practical Herbalism and he doesn't give any more info than the fact that you can use GSE for preservation. Thanks!
Here's one mention of it from the Wild Yam thread.

The coconut and olive oil were of equal amounts initially.  I used olive oil to top it off. 
I did not seal the mason jar, but laid the flat lid on top of the jar without the ring.  The jar sat directly in the crockpot, it was touching the bottom.  This crockpot is a 2 piece one (they may all be this way now) with a ceramic insert sitting in the heating part, so I did feel that it was buffered to a certain degree, but not completely.
I added 4-5 drops of gse per 2 oz, but did not measure the beeswax.  I believe that it was around 1/3-1/2 cup (loosely packed/grated) for 20 oz of oil.
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Re: Making Cream/Salve
« Reply #124 on: February 09, 2008, 09:26:07 AM »
bump, Bump, BUMP!!! ;D

Does anyone have a ratio for grapefruit seed extract drops per oz of salve? I was reading Practical Herbalism and he doesn't give any more info than the fact that you can use GSE for preservation. Thanks!
Here's one mention of it from the Wild Yam thread.

The coconut and olive oil were of equal amounts initially.  I used olive oil to top it off. 
I did not seal the mason jar, but laid the flat lid on top of the jar without the ring.  The jar sat directly in the crockpot, it was touching the bottom.  This crockpot is a 2 piece one (they may all be this way now) with a ceramic insert sitting in the heating part, so I did feel that it was buffered to a certain degree, but not completely.
I added 4-5 drops of gse per 2 oz, but did not measure the beeswax.  I believe that it was around 1/3-1/2 cup (loosely packed/grated) for 20 oz of oil.

Thanks HB! We'll see how it works.
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Re: Making Cream/Salve
« Reply #125 on: February 13, 2008, 05:09:48 PM »
My experience with a salve I use for diaper rash here:

http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,924.msg151725.html#msg151725
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Re: Making Cream/Salve
« Reply #126 on: April 23, 2008, 08:51:44 AM »
I have a calendula/aloe salve "cooking" right now to use on ds's hives.  Is there anything else I should add that might help?  GSE?  Vit E?

I am having him apply plain VCO right now, but he still scratches, so I plan on using this where he has scratched himself raw.

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Re: Making Cream/Salve
« Reply #127 on: April 23, 2008, 09:02:31 AM »
I have a calendula/aloe salve "cooking" right now to use on ds's hives.  Is there anything else I should add that might help?  GSE?  Vit E?

I am having him apply plain VCO right now, but he still scratches, so I plan on using this where he has scratched himself raw.

TIA!
I think that every post I've had today has included the word comfrey, but I really think that it's that useful. 
I would probably add some in some lavender eo also.... I would probably use both the vitE and GSE, but would put them in the container you are going to store the salve in first along with the lavender eo and then pour the melted salve over the top of them...

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« Reply #128 on: April 23, 2008, 09:06:12 AM »
I have a calendula/aloe salve "cooking" right now to use on ds's hives.  Is there anything else I should add that might help?  GSE?  Vit E?

I am having him apply plain VCO right now, but he still scratches, so I plan on using this where he has scratched himself raw.

TIA!
I think that every post I've had today has included the word comfrey, but I really think that it's that useful. 
I would probably add some in some lavender eo also.... I would probably use both the vitE and GSE, but would put them in the container you are going to store the salve in first along with the lavender eo and then pour the melted salve over the top of them...

Thanks!

About how much of each would you use?
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Re: Making Cream/Salve
« Reply #129 on: April 23, 2008, 09:14:17 AM »
I have a calendula/aloe salve "cooking" right now to use on ds's hives.  Is there anything else I should add that might help?  GSE?  Vit E?

I am having him apply plain VCO right now, but he still scratches, so I plan on using this where he has scratched himself raw.

TIA!
I think that every post I've had today has included the word comfrey, but I really think that it's that useful. 
I would probably add some in some lavender eo also.... I would probably use both the vitE and GSE, but would put them in the container you are going to store the salve in first along with the lavender eo and then pour the melted salve over the top of them...

Thanks!

About how much of each would you use?
For every 2 oz of salve I would use about 3-5 drops of the GSE, 5-8 drops of the Vit E, and anywhere from 3-10 drops of the EO depending upon how strong you want it... 

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Re: Making Cream/Salve
« Reply #130 on: April 27, 2008, 01:35:41 PM »
Your ratio of beeswax to olive oil sounds good.. I would start low and add 2-3 Tbsp first.... you can then dip a metal spoon in it and put it in the freezer for a few moments... this should be the consistency that you will end up with... if it is not as firm as you would like, add more beeswax and repeat the spoon test.
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I just love this forum!  Mrs. B., I am so thankful for your posts.  I was nervous about making my first salve, and I searched this site and found all of the tips that everyone gave. I had mixed the infused oil and beeswax and was so unsure about the consistency.  Then I came back on WTM to read any tips and saw this one.  It worked so well!  The first spoon test I did, it wasn't thick enough.  So, I just added more beeswax, and did the spoon test again.  It worked!  Oh, and I wanted to say, I was also appreciative that you shared info on how you infused the olive oil and herbs.  I used a Pyrex measuring glass and pan as a double boiler, and that was easy cleanup.  Thanks so much! 
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Re: Making Cream/Salve
« Reply #131 on: May 09, 2008, 08:43:41 AM »
I'm planning on buying some beeswax in order to make one of the suggested all-around-first-aid salves.  How much beeswax should I get right off the bat?  I was thinking 5 pounds - but maybe that would take too long to use up or maybe it would be gone with one batch?  There are some other things I'd like to make, so I don't want to buy for just one batch, but I don't want to buy for 100 batches either!!

Also, anything specific I should be watching out for when I purchase the beeswax?  I think I might go with the one from this website beeswaxfrombeekeepers.com  because they seem to be the most reasonable - $15.50 for 2.5 pounds which includes shipping which would be $31 for 5 pounds.  Most other places were $40 and up including shipping.  But maybe this beeswax isn't pure enough or something else that I might not be paying attention to?

What kind of Vitamin E are you using to act as a preservative?  I'm assuming its the gel capsules - just sqeezing the oil into the pot when brewing?

I'm going to start with dried comfrey, dried calendula, dried yarrow flower and some fresh aloe from my backyard.  I'd like to buy some plantain to add, but I'm not sure if I'll get to it.

Thanks for any help!!
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Re: Making Cream/Salve
« Reply #132 on: May 09, 2008, 09:07:16 AM »
I'm planning on buying some beeswax in order to make one of the suggested all-around-first-aid salves.  How much beeswax should I get right off the bat?  I was thinking 5 pounds - but maybe that would take too long to use up or maybe it would be gone with one batch?  There are some other things I'd like to make, so I don't want to buy for just one batch, but I don't want to buy for 100 batches either!!

Also, anything specific I should be watching out for when I purchase the beeswax?  I think I might go with the one from this website beeswaxfrombeekeepers.com  because they seem to be the most reasonable - $15.50 for 2.5 pounds which includes shipping which would be $31 for 5 pounds.  Most other places were $40 and up including shipping.  But maybe this beeswax isn't pure enough or something else that I might not be paying attention to?

What kind of Vitamin E are you using to act as a preservative?  I'm assuming its the gel capsules - just sqeezing the oil into the pot when brewing?

I'm going to start with dried comfrey, dried calendula, dried yarrow flower and some fresh aloe from my backyard.  I'd like to buy some plantain to add, but I'm not sure if I'll get to it.

Thanks for any help!!

It doesn't take much beeswax per batch...maybe a couple of teaspoons per cup?  I just usually grate some...don't really measure.  I got a huge block of it from a friend of dh's whose has bees and that will last me for years.  And I've made several batches of salve already.

I bought my Vit E oil in a little bottle at the drugstore.  I thought trying to get drops out of the capsules seemed like too much work.

Your ingredients sound great.  You might have plantain in your backyard and not know it...it grows EVERYWHERE!
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Re: Making Cream/Salve
« Reply #133 on: May 09, 2008, 09:51:16 AM »
Thanks a ton for the input!  Maybe I'll just get the 2.5 pounds for now - seems like that should last a while.

I need to buy some vitE anyway - maybe I'll look at my local health food store for vitE oil without the caps!!   ;D

I don't want to derail the thread - but I have to figure out what plantain looks like!  :)  I'll research other threads for a bit and see if I can't figure it out!  Do you think it grows in humid climates like Florida?  I live iin Central FL - nothing but sand and dying grass in my backyard - well, except for the aloe plant!!  Otherwise, I love bulkherbstore.com and only buy my dried herbs from them!!

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Re: Making Cream/Salve
« Reply #134 on: May 09, 2008, 12:12:59 PM »
Thanks a ton for the input!  Maybe I'll just get the 2.5 pounds for now - seems like that should last a while.

I need to buy some vitE anyway - maybe I'll look at my local health food store for vitE oil without the caps!!   ;D

I don't want to derail the thread - but I have to figure out what plantain looks like!  :)  I'll research other threads for a bit and see if I can't figure it out!  Do you think it grows in humid climates like Florida?  I live iin Central FL - nothing but sand and dying grass in my backyard - well, except for the aloe plant!!  Otherwise, I love bulkherbstore.com and only buy my dried herbs from them!!

Here's a pic of plantain from SarahLaRae's blog...

http://benandsarahmoorefamily.blogspot.com/2008/05/plantain.html
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Re: Making Cream/Salve
« Reply #135 on: August 17, 2008, 10:57:12 AM »
When you all add propolis, are you referring to propolis extract?  I'm having a reeeeally hard time finding pure propolis (straight from the hive?).  How much are you adding (per cup of oil)?

About how much tea tree oil (or other essential oils) would you add per cup?  I saw someone adding 1 T. per cup.  I don't think I can afford to do that.   :-\

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Re: Making Cream/Salve
« Reply #136 on: August 18, 2008, 10:38:25 AM »
I just got some raw propolis from the bee man.    :D    I am planning on making a tincture out of some of it but wondered if anyone has made a salve with propolis and how you did it.   Thanks
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Re: Making Cream/Salve
« Reply #137 on: October 29, 2008, 02:11:39 PM »
I just got some raw propolis from the bee man.    :D    I am planning on making a tincture out of some of it but wondered if anyone has made a salve with propolis and how you did it.   Thanks

I'm bumping this to see if I can get an answer????/   Anyone?   :)
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Re: Making Cream/Salve
« Reply #138 on: November 11, 2008, 10:51:25 AM »
I am still waiting for someone to chime in about bee propolis in salve.   In the meantime I have a really neat success story.     :) 
Someone, sorry I can't remember who, posted their recipe for Boo Boo Salve.   I recently made some, although I did make a few adjustments in the herbs I used.   A friend of my sons came over one day wanting advise for his girlfriend who was suffering with severe eczema/rash.   I gave him some salve to try.   The next day he was back wanting to know how he could make some.   Soooooo---I just want to say a big Thank You to all of you fine people who share your knowledge.   It is such a wonderful thing to be able to help others with natural healthy products.   
On a side note----I have been asked to do a demonstration on herbal tinctures at the yearly Ladies Day Out.   I'm excited to be able to share some of the things I've learned and you can be sure that all my new friends at welltellme will be getting the credit.   Thanks all.    :D
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Re: Making Cream/Salve
« Reply #139 on: November 11, 2008, 01:25:07 PM »
I am still waiting for someone to chime in about bee propolis in salve.   In the meantime I have a really neat success story.     :) 
Someone, sorry I can't remember who, posted their recipe for Boo Boo Salve.   I recently made some, although I did make a few adjustments in the herbs I used.   A friend of my sons came over one day wanting advise for his girlfriend who was suffering with severe eczema/rash.   I gave him some salve to try.   The next day he was back wanting to know how he could make some.   Soooooo---I just want to say a big Thank You to all of you fine people who share your knowledge.   It is such a wonderful thing to be able to help others with natural healthy products.   
On a side note----I have been asked to do a demonstration on herbal tinctures at the yearly Ladies Day Out.   I'm excited to be able to share some of the things I've learned and you can be sure that all my new friends at welltellme will be getting the credit.   Thanks all.    :D

Sorry, I don't have any answer for you propolis question, but I was wondering where you found the boo boo salve ingredients. Or, would you mind posting them again?
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Re: Making Cream/Salve
« Reply #140 on: November 02, 2009, 04:26:16 AM »
I am planning to  make my own salve using this recipe sometime this Winter, as I love Eden Salve!


All  purpose Green Salve

1 part Comfrey
1 part Plantain
1 part Echinacea (can use 1/2 root and 1/2 tops)
1/2 part yarrow
1/2 part propolis, optional      (add in last step with beeswax)
Lavendar essential oil 9 drops/ 4 oz
Rosemary essential oil 9 drops/ 4 oz
Grapefruit seed extract 14 drops/ 4 oz




Heal n' Soothe Miricle

1 part comfrey
1 part plantain
1 part calendula
1/2 part propolis , optional    (add in last step with beeswax)
Lavendar essential oil 9 drops/ 4 oz
Rosemary essential oil 9 drops/ 4 oz
Grapefruit seed extract 14 drops/ 4 oz






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Re: Making Cream/Salve
« Reply #141 on: November 04, 2009, 06:01:25 AM »
Sorry I missed that request for the BooBoo Salve ingredients..........
2 parts comfrey, 1 part Echinacea, 1 part plantain, 1 part mullein, 0.5 part lavender, 1 part yarrow, olive oil to cover, bees wax (I use about 1/3 cup for 8-10 oz of olive oil), tea tree oil (4 drops), grapefruit seed extract (6 drops), Lavender essential oil (5 drops), Vitamin E oil (3 drops)
I apologize to whoever it was that first posted this recipe...............I can't remember who it was and don't want to take credit for this fine salve. 
I have tweaked my recipe and changed some of the herbs to suit my needs but these are the base and it really works wonderfully.   
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Re: Making Cream/Salve
« Reply #142 on: November 04, 2009, 09:19:54 AM »
HerbsGirl...
I guess I would ask myself why do I want to include that much echinacea.  I don't think it is necessarily too much, but if you are looking at a salve to primarily heal cuts, bruises and the like I might consider other options.  If you are looking to use the salve as a carrier for herbs as more of a systemic remedy that might be used in place of tinctures and rubbed on the bottom of the feet or on the chest during illness for kids, it might be more appropriate.
And thanks Daisy... I believe the it is mine... ::)  It really is a wonderful salve, and I don't leave home without it....

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Re: Making Cream/Salve
« Reply #143 on: November 04, 2009, 10:31:09 AM »
Eden salve worked so good for my little boy's 2nd  degree burn( could have been as bad as 3rd degree in some spots)  One of the first things on the list for Eden Salve is Echinacea.  According to Steven Buhner in Herbal Antibiotics it is one of the best herbs for healing wounds, ect.  I adaped the recipe a bit. Maybe it is way too much still!  I will have to try and see how it works



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« Reply #144 on: November 04, 2009, 10:36:51 AM »
Eden salve worked so good for my little boy's 2nd  degree burn( could have been as bad as 3rd degree in some spots)  One of the first things on the list for Eden Salve is Echinacea.  According to Steven Buhner in Herbal Antibiotics it is one of the best herbs for healing wounds, ect.  I adaped the recipe a bit. Maybe it is way too much still!  I will have to try and see how it works
It sounds like you are wanting a really strong healer.... I guess when I think BooBoo it's for littler things.  I don't think it sounds like too much if this is what you are wanting to accomplish.

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« Reply #145 on: June 25, 2011, 08:50:11 AM »
I made some salve last week and it smells horrible! Does salve normally smell bad? I was so excited about making my own, but was not prepared at all for the smell! I can hardly use it, it makes me want to throw up everytime I get it out  :'(
My husband says it doesn't smell that bad, but I think he is just too sweet and wonderful to complain  :-*   :)
Here is what I put in it:
Olive oil, Plantain, Garlic cloves, Aloe leaf, Lavendar oil, and Tea Tree oil. I put it in a jar and then in a crockpot filled with water, covered and heated on low for 3 days. After 3 days I heated Beeswax, mixed in the oil, added some drops of Vitamin E oil and let it set up. Did I do anything wrong? Is it the combination of herbs that made it smell bad? I really don't want to waste it if it's good, any thoughts?

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« Reply #146 on: March 20, 2012, 08:24:40 AM »
I made some salve last week and it smells horrible! Does salve normally smell bad? I was so excited about making my own, but was not prepared at all for the smell! I can hardly use it, it makes me want to throw up everytime I get it out  :'(
My husband says it doesn't smell that bad, but I think he is just too sweet and wonderful to complain  :-*   :)
Here is what I put in it:
Olive oil, Plantain, Garlic cloves, Aloe leaf, Lavendar oil, and Tea Tree oil. I put it in a jar and then in a crockpot filled with water, covered and heated on low for 3 days. After 3 days I heated Beeswax, mixed in the oil, added some drops of Vitamin E oil and let it set up. Did I do anything wrong? Is it the combination of herbs that made it smell bad? I really don't want to waste it if it's good, any thoughts?

The garlic is the issue. Calendula or Comfrey would be better options and smell a whole lot better.

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« Reply #147 on: March 31, 2012, 06:25:20 AM »
Thank you, I did remake a batch without garlic, and though it doesn't smell as bad, it doesn't smell good either. But it is bearable. I didn't have any calendula, but I did use comfrey, plantain, and aloe. So maybe I just need to get used to the herby smell.  :)

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« Reply #148 on: April 04, 2012, 03:49:45 AM »
I made some salve last week and it smells horrible! Does salve normally smell bad? I was so excited about making my own, but was not prepared at all for the smell! I can hardly use it, it makes me want to throw up everytime I get it out  :'(
My husband says it doesn't smell that bad, but I think he is just too sweet and wonderful to complain  :-*   :)
Here is what I put in it:
Olive oil, Plantain, Garlic cloves, Aloe leaf, Lavendar oil, and Tea Tree oil. I put it in a jar and then in a crockpot filled with water, covered and heated on low for 3 days. After 3 days I heated Beeswax, mixed in the oil, added some drops of Vitamin E oil and let it set up. Did I do anything wrong? Is it the combination of herbs that made it smell bad? I really don't want to waste it if it's good, any thoughts?
Lavender Oil is very powerful.  Any more than a few drops might taint the smell.  Garlic is very powerful, I'm sure this has something to do with it.  I made some plantain salve and it smells fine, but I did not add any of these two ingredients.  No Tea Tree in mine either but I think this would just make it smell antiseptic by itself.  Plantain has virtually no smell (grassy).  If you burnt it, it could change the smell.  Maybe you should try something less complicated and see if you get the same results.  Maybe just plantain and oil.  Add essential oils after you decide that it's ok.  Leave out the garlic.

I'm not sure why you added the garlic anyway.  It's not very potent as a healing agent after it's been cooked.  It's at it's best when raw and within the first 10 to 15 minutes of being peeled and broken open.
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Re: Making Cream/Salve
« Reply #149 on: April 06, 2012, 10:50:38 AM »
Yeah I think I got a little overexcited with all my ingredients LOL I made a much less complicated version and it turned out well. Thank you for the responses  :)