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Re: Beautiful, Healthy (Bare) Feet- the natural way
« Reply #90 on: August 15, 2010, 07:34:57 PM »
Can anyone tell me if the soft star shoes or other barefoot shoes (not VFFS) have enough give on the sides to not affect my sailor's bunion? I'm trying to avoid pain and surgery so I want shoes (barefoot style) that won't press on it and make it worse. I don't know if it makes sense. If I do get a pair of soft stars and find that they put pressure on my bunion will they take them back?

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« Reply #91 on: August 16, 2010, 03:28:47 AM »
I haven't had a bunion so I can't say for sure.  BUT I do think that they are very flexible.   The variety I have/wear are made with a single layer of suede leather as the upper.

Other thing you could consider doing is trace your foot ask them to evaluate if that shape would be a problem.  Really.  They seem to pride themselves on personalized service.
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Re: Beautiful, Healthy (Bare) Feet- the natural way
« Reply #92 on: August 16, 2010, 02:15:31 PM »
Can anyone tell me if the soft star shoes or other barefoot shoes (not VFFS) have enough give on the sides to not affect my sailor's bunion? I'm trying to avoid pain and surgery so I want shoes (barefoot style) that won't press on it and make it worse. I don't know if it makes sense. If I do get a pair of soft stars and find that they put pressure on my bunion will they take them back?

I have bunions, too( from wearing high heels too much when I was young and stupid). The VFF's actually flatten your toes, naturally. I don't think it was uncomfortable, as far as the bunions were concerned. Mine were uncomfortable, because they were too small.

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Re: Beautiful, Healthy (Bare) Feet- the natural way
« Reply #93 on: August 16, 2010, 03:56:42 PM »
I actually have VFFs that's why I said not VFFs!  :D Confusing I know. I was interested in getting some mocassiny type ones also for desert coolness. I will be in snow this year when we get some...or next year!

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Re: Beautiful, Healthy (Bare) Feet- the natural way
« Reply #94 on: August 16, 2010, 05:05:26 PM »
I actually have VFFs that's why I said not VFFs!  :D Confusing I know.

Nope. Not confusing. I've had no sleep in the past 24hrs. so I'm seeing and not seeing things! lol Sorry!

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« Reply #95 on: August 16, 2010, 05:09:07 PM »
Just on the coolness deal, we have 4 pair of the Soft Star mocs with the lamb skin insole and it's actually not a problem in the summer even.  It seems to be like a 'temperature moderator' sortof.  So it wicks sweat in the summer and insulates with air in the winter.  Seems weird but it's working so far.  

The kids we have them for are 2 & 3 yrs old.  The 3 yr old can get them on w/o help if paying attention to how they go.  They are worn on gravel, in the grass, on pavement, all that.  Wore them to a funeral this summer.  And the beach.  Just a quick brush up/dust off and they were ready to go.  We got gum on the bottom of one pair and it was well walked into the leather sole when we found it.  We took a fork (plain table fork) and scuffed it off, ruffed up the stuck down parts and you can't tell which foot was sticky after that.  Amazed us but the natural surface of the suede just came right back.

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Re: Beautiful, Healthy (Bare) Feet- the natural way
« Reply #96 on: August 16, 2010, 05:57:33 PM »
what do you think of the ones that have the vibram sole?
Yeah- I like em- I was thinking of the wear and tear- we've been mountaining alot this year and will continue doing so. They are rough on shoes man.

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« Reply #97 on: August 19, 2010, 02:46:44 AM »
That vibram sole should last a looooong time.  It's tough.  I have a teen aged foot-scuffer that wears them running on tar and the sole is still doing OK.  Won't last forever, but should be pretty good.
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Re: Beautiful, Healthy (Bare) Feet- the natural way
« Reply #98 on: August 19, 2010, 04:56:18 AM »
and for the fashion conscious....
 
ok i want to not only have a shoe that is more cold weather friendly and barefootish and not tight on my bunion but won't look to funny with skirts...

hubby would like it if i didn't have to take out a small loan to get a pair also....

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Re: Beautiful, Healthy (Bare) Feet- the natural way
« Reply #99 on: September 23, 2010, 10:45:00 AM »
If you find any KN let me know since I wear skirts only too. My plan currently is to get some VFF's for running and hiking, and either make some nice mocc's or, I posted a link on FB to a minimalist shoe that looks just like the standard white plain (usually canvas or fake leather. know what I'm talking about?) cheapy shoes I normally buy and look nice with my jean and khaki skirts. They are $100 if I recall correctly. Which is pricey, but my hubby doesn't care for me so long as I am getting good shoes. Not too mention shoes that will not be affecting my knee.

As for the mocc's that I hope to make. I found a really nice looking, easy pattern online a while back. I'll see if I can find it. I also have a pattern for Mukluk's that if I make them just like the natives do should keep my feet nice and toasty even in the extreme cold here in AK. If I ever get around to making them I know I'll post pics on FB for my minimalist minded friends. :)

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Re: Beautiful, Healthy (Bare) Feet- the natural way
« Reply #100 on: September 23, 2010, 12:02:10 PM »
Hey! I got some water shoes at target for about 7 bucks.  black with a strap. took out the sole and very minimal. Look cute with a skirt. noone knew they were water shoes. I didn't wear them for too long. I did just break down and got the soft star mocassins. Haven't wore them much but to try them on. They were about 100 bucks however.
Anyways - I'll check out the pics you post.
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Re: Beautiful, Healthy (Bare) Feet- the natural way
« Reply #101 on: September 24, 2010, 05:51:18 AM »
 Happywifey:  Mukluk pattern??? Can you share?? I was going to create my own. I am trying to figure out what to do for winter. I currently use water socks but winter is coming and that just isn't going to cut it. If we get a moose.... :) Wishful thinking I know. I may just have to break down and buy a caribou hide. 

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Re: Beautiful, Healthy (Bare) Feet- the natural way
« Reply #102 on: September 25, 2010, 07:05:54 PM »
I have a friend who is interested in doing the barefoot/minimalist thing. She has a problem with high arches. She goes barefoot all morning and then puts shoes on to go out. She said that too many days of this and she wakes up with what feels like her tendons in her arches are all tight and she can't even walk. Her mom had the same problem and ended up having her tendons severed. She definitely doesn't want to do that. Anyways- any ideas? She said her feet only feel good with shoes with her arch support inserts in.

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Re: Beautiful, Healthy (Bare) Feet- the natural way
« Reply #103 on: September 26, 2010, 06:27:17 PM »
Sewbusy, I bought the pattern at the Raw Fur Company here in FBX, maybe try a similar type store? They carry a lot of products for the natives you use in their traditional sewing. I also bought a pattern for the traditional eskimo coat, and there is a lady here in town that gives lessons too. I hope to make mine from grey wool and white fur. Before I make the mukluks though I want to talk to some natives from up north and find out how to make them warm enough for the deep deep cold. :)

KN, I have high arches, and up until the last year or so I always wore shoes with plenty of arch support. I started going barefoot around the house for small periods of time, allowing my feet to adjust to no support at all. Now I can't stand shoes with arch support. :) I don't get any more arch pain. My arch is so high I can almost fit my fist inside of it. I have been going barefoot around the house for a year now.


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Re: Beautiful, Healthy (Bare) Feet- the natural way
« Reply #104 on: September 27, 2010, 03:13:33 AM »
KN- I agree with HappyWifey.  It's a strength issue.

Imagine you have a knee/joint immobilizer. Actually, lots of them in a variety of styles & colors (size 8.5 in my case). You wear one nearly every waking hour for a while. Let's say 20+years. Off at night and occasionally during the day but your daily life & moving is in this immobilizer.

One day you realize that the joints held immobile are designed to contribute to overall efficiency and comfort of movement for your whole body! Eureka! Off with the immobilizer and away you go - right?

Well, not quite. All the muscles, tendons & ligament that have been hindered all those years are weak. They need some rehab. Too much on them and you will have pain and maybe even damage them. Work into using them slowly.

Once they are strengthened - Go for it! You will have a strong tool you can use with comfort!
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Re: Beautiful, Healthy (Bare) Feet- the natural way
« Reply #105 on: September 28, 2010, 06:02:56 AM »
I guess the question is how do you strengthen them? I recently went to the chiropractor and they did a foot scan and want me to get the custom made arch supports because my arches are so flat. I HATE H.A.T.E. shoes. They make my back and feet hurt. I do have back pain but I don't know that it is from my feet so much as being out of wack from an accident years ago. My daughter also walks with her feet rolled in severely (picture almost the opposite of club feet when she walks) This causes her LOTS of pain. She does better with supportive shoes but I know that she needs to strengthen those muscles. Any ideas??  Happywifey, I think there is a store in Anchorage that may have something. I have the parka pattern (got it from a garage sale:) I have some friends out in towards Bethel  that may be able to help:) thanks for the suggestion.   

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« Reply #106 on: September 28, 2010, 06:41:31 AM »
To strengthen them, besides going slowly, you need to focus on walking correctly. Especially your daughter. If she spends time at home when she doesn't need to rush focusing on exactly how she needs to place each foot, eventually over time it will become habit, and eventually it should correct itself. Foot massages may help also. Make sure that when you walk you are striking the pad just below your toes first, then heel. Is the video from Adventure in Progress on this thread somwheres? If not I'll link it. It is a must watch for everyone. ;)

I have noticed that my hip pain (from an accident when I was 16) has nearly disappeared now, but if something needs to be corrected in your bad (somethings out of place) then correct walking wont completely get rid of the pain.

Do your feet/arches hurt when going barefoot? Are you making sure to strike first on the pad and not heel?

Let me know if you can't find a copy of the mukluk pattern. I'm sure we'll be heading down that way sometime in the next couple months and I can bring you a copy. I think I paid between $15-$30 for it. I can't remember for sure.

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Re: Beautiful, Healthy (Bare) Feet- the natural way
« Reply #107 on: September 29, 2010, 07:01:06 AM »
I run that way and walk that way sometimes. (And by the way I LOVE to run) No my feet don't hurt when going barefoot. I have always gone barefoot as much as possible. I even got married bare foot:) Not sure how I will get my 50#, UNCOORDINATED clumsy as an ox 2 year old to walk that way...... I do have her walk on tippy toes for fun. I've considered phys. therapy but they want to give her these HIDEOUS plastic inserts that all but wrap her whole foot. I just know I would CRY if I had to wear them (not to mention they look so no natural) Thanks for the suggestion and I will look for the video link on here   

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Re: Beautiful, Healthy (Bare) Feet- the natural way
« Reply #108 on: September 29, 2010, 07:03:44 AM »
Are you saying that he/she walks with her feet turned in and drags them? My 3 year old does that...the tops of his feet are always dirty. He's done that for awhile and I'm thinking he'll outgrow it. I hope.

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« Reply #109 on: September 29, 2010, 07:05:28 AM »
found the link, page 3

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« Reply #110 on: August 10, 2011, 09:48:15 AM »
Just want to get this info out there for anyone else that is interested.  Merrell shoe company has some great "barefoot" running shoes.  In fact their whole running shoe line is now geared toward barefoot running.  They have a vibram sole, but the whole look more "normal" than five fingers.  My husband finally decided to get some and he really likes them.  He did get some awful blisters on his heels the first time he wore them running, but that healed up fine and now they are broken in pretty well.  They are still expensive ($100 range), but what isn't these days thanks to the Federal Reserve.  He said they definitely make you run the right way and his feet and calves are getting stronger.

As for myself, the thing that has helped me most to overcome some knee pain that developed during my last pregnancy is really focusing on using the core muscles to stabilize my body while I go up and down stairs.  Now I am trying to focus on using those core muscles while walking.  When I do this I have noticed that my stride changes and is more "correct" (not landing heel first).  Hopefully I will eventually do this without thinking about it, but for now it requires some mental effort.  It is working though!

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Re: Beautiful, Healthy (Bare) Feet- the natural way
« Reply #111 on: September 17, 2012, 02:46:22 PM »
After reading this thread I felt compelled to register and share some info. I realize this is old, and apologies.

I am 27 year old male with painful arch's/plantar faciitis in both feet.

I never had problems with my feet until I bought a pair of minimal walking shoes.(note:i have not run in years or with these shoes)

Walking in these shoes has brought out the plantar faciitis in  me. My advice to avoid the same:

1) Get your feet checked out by a REGISTERED EXPERIENCED PHYSIOTHERAPIST before you switch to minimal shoes of any kind.

They will be able to inspect your ankle foot alignment and advise you on a program to transition to minimal foot wear. (or in my case could have warned me of my problem and corrected it before it exploded)

2)NATURAL does not mean APPROPRIATE.  We are often shown the peaceful happy third world barefoot people as an example of the freedom we have lost in the west. The problem is your life and their life do NOT COMPARE. You have not lived their life. Things that work for them cannot be transplanted into your life and be expected to work. You can gradually change and adapt to a different way of life or footwear, but this must be done with care and patience. (and TIME! probably years)

I spent much of my childhood barefoot in  a rural setting. That was 15 years ago. Do not fool yourself with "when I was a kid" routine. What have you been walking in, and on, during the last year? Base your footwear choice on the recent and the near future.

3)Your feet are a marvel of the natural world. They are strong and flexible. They go where you ask. They pound against concrete,asphalt,stone. They trudge through sand,gravel,mud. But they have limits. Exceed those limits and they can also cause you great pain. Physical pain and emotional pain of limited mobility.

The problem with a lot of natural healing is that people like to make medical science out to be some kind of monster. The average physiotherapist has learned about anatomy and motion and applies treatments to injuries that are up to date with latest research. The latest research on connective tissue injuries was really done when they came up with RICE. rest,ice,compression,elevation. So the lesson here is PREVENTION is the only cure for chronic connective tissue injuries. And that the monster of modern medicine is completely ineffective at treating the kinds of injuries some people experience with minimal footwear.

It is far better to spend $50 assessing your situation, then 1000's in ineffective remedial treatment and a chronic condition.

Google barefoot running injury and be prepared to accept that the many injured people are not all weak and that somehow you  will be stronger than them.

I am not a physio. Physio is the only treatment that has any impact on my condition. 2 doctors told me my feet were normal at 2 different times in the past. Lesson:see a specialist or save your money.

This post is my plea to you on behave of your feet. Trust me, you do not want to p*ss them off.