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Re: Thyroid Dysfunction: Diagnosis & Treament
« Reply #180 on: February 27, 2009, 02:07:56 PM »


You could try something called Symplex F which will nourish your entire endocrine system.  I would stay away from cruciforous (sp) veggies as they impair thyroid function (broccoli, cauliflower, etc).  Have you considered finding a doc that will prescribe Armour thyroid?  You might even be able to find one on the web that will do it.  Armour costs $10 a month and works much better. 

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thanks!  i have looked into armour.  I have called all the doctors around here, but they all have waiting lists of 6+ months, etc.  It has been a difficult journey.  i will look into symplex f.
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« Reply #181 on: February 28, 2009, 10:28:50 AM »

 You might even be able to find one on the web that will do it.  Armour costs $10 a month and works much better. 

patti

Dear Patti:

Could you tell me how to look for a doctor on the web that I might be able to get Armour thyroid through?  I don't go to doctors when I am in the States - so it would be nice to know how to do that.  Thanks, Nancy

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« Reply #182 on: February 28, 2009, 12:13:51 PM »
I found the following information doing a quick web search.  I did not check into anything extensively so I would encourage you to do so.

You can check for a physician that will for sure prescribe Armour by using this website:  http://www.armourthyroid.com/con_phLocator.aspx

This is a one page forum about Armour and some people mention a natural thyroid that can be purchased OTC (I don't know anything about it).  http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=270589

Here's where you can purchase the natural thyroid stuff:  http://www.nutri-meds.com/

Here's a place that sells Armour over the web.  It looks like a UK website.  http://www.antiaging-systems.com/iasstore/acatalog/thyroid.html

You would have to figure dosing out.  I was on 30mg of Armour daily but my thyroid wasn't that low.  There are sites that help you figure out how much Armour equals how much synthroid.  You could do a search on those.

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« Reply #183 on: February 28, 2009, 03:20:40 PM »
So is there no way around the daily meds (natural or otherwise)?
No home herbal treatment, no tea, no det and excersize changes to boost your body into producing its proper levels of TSH?

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« Reply #184 on: February 28, 2009, 05:23:17 PM »
So is there no way around the daily meds (natural or otherwise)?
No home herbal treatment, no tea, no det and excersize changes to boost your body into producing its proper levels of TSH?

Actually, I think all of those things help our bodies work properly long term.  The biggest issue is those things take awhile to actually work and heal the thyroid.  So if someone is really low they would need to supplement with something until their body was adequately healed.  I know someone personally that has hashimotos disease (autoimmune thyroid disease) that controls it with an all raw diet (hallelujah diet).  However, if she goes off the raw diet at all her thyroid symptoms return.  I found a really good page that had some good supplements one could take for thyroid.  I had forgotten about iodine.  I actually took Iodoral for awhile.   This looks like  a decent site for info:   http://www.natural-cure-remedy.com/hypothyroidism.html

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« Reply #185 on: April 02, 2009, 04:37:31 PM »
So I did the Iodine test today. I put a big circle on my upper arm...used a few dips in the tincture with the stick thingy.  The circle was 2 1/2 ".  3 hours later, the iodine was completely gone!

I'd say I  have a low functioning thyroid but do not have insurance to go have it checked out.  I was thinking of working with a local doc to help me with a test but need to interview a few first. 

What do you suppose next step should be.  Also, have you checked out www.stopthethyroidmadness.com yet?

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Re: Thyroid Dysfunction: Diagnosis & Treament
« Reply #186 on: April 06, 2009, 04:00:36 AM »
I have been tested for hyperthyroidism.  I didn't go on meds because I was breastfeeding at the time.  The symptoms are really disturbing, shortness of breath, racing heart in the evening before I go to bed as well as diarrhea and hair loss.  My levels evened out for a year and now the symptoms are back, I really don't want to go on meds and was wondering if anyone conquered this with diet or supplements?  I do drink lemon balm tea at times and it does seem to help.

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« Reply #187 on: April 06, 2009, 08:33:45 AM »
I have "conquered" hyperthyroid/Graves disease with herbs, but they were given by my NP so I can't really recommend specific herbs to take.  I know this doesn't help you, but I wanted you to know that it can be done without meds.  My numbers were through the roof and I was miserable.  You can't sleep b/c of the heart racing but you are so tired you feel like you're going to fall over.  And don't even mention the moods!!!!  My poor dh.  :o :o 
I'm not sure the body really gets rid of the hyperthyroid.  Mine is usually controlled, but once in  awhile it surfaces again.  If I've been sick or stressed for a long while it will show some symptoms. 
If at all possible for you, go to a good NP.  They have helped me avoid the drugs for over 20 years now. 
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Re: Thyroid Dysfunction: Diagnosis & Treament
« Reply #188 on: April 09, 2009, 12:38:54 PM »
I'm having a hard time finding out what the normal range for a TSH test should be. Mine just came back at 3.27 which my Dr. said was "normal enough." Is he correct? Should I ask for further testing?
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« Reply #189 on: April 09, 2009, 05:33:03 PM »
I'm having a hard time finding out what the normal range for a TSH test should be. Mine just came back at 3.27 which my Dr. said was "normal enough." Is he correct? Should I ask for further testing?

Uh, no.   ::) :o  If I remember correctly, when naturepath's see the numbers above 2.5 they recommend supplemetation with Armour or something else natural.  I would recommend you take this test to a naturepath and get his opinion.  Doctor's will allow a TSH to go up to 4.5 or 5 before they'll treat it.   :o

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Re: Thyroid Dysfunction: Diagnosis & Treament
« Reply #190 on: April 10, 2009, 02:50:47 AM »
Any thoughts on how I can find out more without seeing a naturepath? I would love to see one but we are broke and seeing my OBGYN is covered. They said they would retest after baby is born and see what is going on then.
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« Reply #191 on: April 10, 2009, 06:44:19 AM »
Any thoughts on how I can find out more without seeing a naturepath? I would love to see one but we are broke and seeing my OBGYN is covered. They said they would retest after baby is born and see what is going on then.

The best I could recommend would be to go ahead and supplement with some sort of thyroid supplement (iodine, kelp, etc) or see if your OB will prescribe 30mg of Armour Thyroid and then see how you feel.  You will just have to trial and error what kinds of things work.  Iodine and kelp are a good start but the Armour would likely make you feel better in the long run.  From your above post I'm guessing the OB will not likely prescribe Armour? 

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« Reply #192 on: April 10, 2009, 07:15:43 AM »
My little sister had trouble with her TSH during her last pregnancy. Don't remember what her numbers were, just that early in her pregnancy, they were off. Doctor tried to push meds, but she wisely said no. Instead, she went on Master Gland from Nature's Sunshine (nourishes the entire endocrine system, including thyroid) and alfalfa tablets.

The next test, about a month later, she tested just fine. They didn't even ask her about if she was doing anything for her problem.

I would definitely recommend a kelp supplement. It's a great, natural form of iodine. Dulse is high in iodine, too.
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« Reply #193 on: April 10, 2009, 10:16:24 AM »
I would second the natures sunshine product.  Master Gland will do a good job with your whole endocrine system.  One thing about glands is if one is off then the others are as well because the body tries to compensate for the imbalance by adjusting the other gland's output.

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« Reply #194 on: April 10, 2009, 06:56:12 PM »
Would Nature's Sunshine Master Gland be safe to take while nursing?  I have a baby who just turned one this week.  I also found out my thyroid is low but cannot afford a bunch of testing and doctors right now.  I want to do something rather than nothing but not sure what steps to take next.  I do have Kelp in the house.

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« Reply #195 on: April 11, 2009, 06:54:49 AM »
I would assume so, b/c my sis took it while she was pregnant (we checked on that, too). I could check on this for you if you are interested.  :)



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« Reply #196 on: November 29, 2009, 11:55:45 AM »
I have "conquered" hyperthyroid/Graves disease with herbs, but they were given by my NP so I can't really recommend specific herbs to take.  I know this doesn't help you, but I wanted you to know that it can be done without meds.  My numbers were through the roof and I was miserable.  You can't sleep b/c of the heart racing but you are so tired you feel like you're going to fall over.  And don't even mention the moods!!!!  My poor dh.  :o :o 
I'm not sure the body really gets rid of the hyperthyroid.  Mine is usually controlled, but once in  awhile it surfaces again.  If I've been sick or stressed for a long while it will show some symptoms. 
If at all possible for you, go to a good NP.  They have helped me avoid the drugs for over 20 years now. 
hth,
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I know you said you can't recommend specific herbs to take, but are there any resources (websites/books) you would recommend?  How did you find your NP?  (I assume that stands for nurse practitioner?)  My mom was just diagnosed with Graves' and she would really like to treat it naturally, but there's not much information out there...

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« Reply #197 on: December 01, 2009, 01:28:13 PM »
If you look back into my posts on this thread I mention how I healed my hypothyroidism through herbs. Every now and then if I am stressed I have a low thyroid day, but I have no symptoms anymore!

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« Reply #198 on: December 02, 2009, 04:28:29 AM »
I have "conquered" hyperthyroid/Graves disease with herbs, but they were given by my NP so I can't really recommend specific herbs to take.  I know this doesn't help you, but I wanted you to know that it can be done without meds.  My numbers were through the roof and I was miserable.  You can't sleep b/c of the heart racing but you are so tired you feel like you're going to fall over.  And don't even mention the moods!!!!  My poor dh.  :o :o 
I'm not sure the body really gets rid of the hyperthyroid.  Mine is usually controlled, but once in  awhile it surfaces again.  If I've been sick or stressed for a long while it will show some symptoms. 
If at all possible for you, go to a good NP.  They have helped me avoid the drugs for over 20 years now. 
hth,
mauimom

I know you said you can't recommend specific herbs to take, but are there any resources (websites/books) you would recommend?  How did you find your NP?  (I assume that stands for nurse practitioner?)  My mom was just diagnosed with Graves' and she would really like to treat it naturally, but there's not much information out there...


The NP stands for Natropathic Doctor.  Mine made up his own formulas after testing with his equipment.  Pm me and let me know where your mom is located, I know of several NP's who are connected with my NP.

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« Reply #199 on: December 03, 2009, 07:51:20 AM »
mauimom: I would PM you, but I'm a new member and I can't do that yet.  My mom lives in Colorado Springs.  Do you know of anyone in the general area?

HappyWifey: Thanks for the tip. I'll send my mom a link to the thread and let her sift through the info.

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« Reply #200 on: December 03, 2009, 11:38:23 AM »
mauimom:  The text of your PM was in the notification email I got, so I was able to read it.  Thanks for the advice and we'll be looking forward to hearing from you!

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« Reply #201 on: January 17, 2010, 09:53:54 PM »
Well, I skimmed the entire 6 pages and only found one post (and no answers) with this issue, so here goes...

Over the last week or two I have been diagnosed with thyroid cysts/nodules.  There is a 2 cm. cyst on the left of my thyroid and a smaller one on the right side.  I have had an MRI (that's how they found it - the MRI was for something unrelated to thyroid).  Because of the MRI findings, I had an ultrasound of the thyroid and that confirmed the cysts or nodules.  I am having an "uptake and scan" on Wednesday, the 8th, which involves taking a low-dose radioactive capsule and then having a scan after 6 hrs. and another after 24 hours.  I find out the results Monday the 13th.  Anyone with any experience with this?  I know that the tests are to rule out malignancy.  I haven't had any symptoms that I know of...I'm just trying to find out as much as I can.

TIA  :)

I know this is an old post, but I am wondering if any of you have had this problem and if you know if it is related to hypo or hyperthyroidism? 

After I had the flu this Thanksgiving, I developed a swollen thyroid and was unable to swallow.  I went to the ER and they sent me for an MRI.  The MRI showed two nodules on the left side.  They sent me to my doctor the next day and she sent me to a specialist the day after that.  They were pretty concerned and told me they would have to do a biopsy.  The specialist was very unconcerned and basically insinuated that because I was overweight and young, I couldn't have any problems and sent me home.  I don't even think he looked at my MRI, because he sent it home with me and told me to bring it back later.  He didn't do a biopsy; he barely even looked at me.  My doctor scheduled an ultrasound because the ER doctor had suggested it.  The ultrasound tech said there were two nodules on the left and one on the right.  He said that they would need to do a biopsy.  My doctor sent me a note saying I needed to f/u with the specialist and then they would do another ultrasound in 6 months.  I told her I would not go back to that specialist and that I had been having some weird symptoms (internal shakiness, lost 20 lbs in 2 weeks, ear pain, etc) so she ordered another thyroid blood test.  My TSH had been fine (so they said before) but now it is abnormal (don't know yet how much).  She has scheduled me for a nuclear medicine scan soon and I am switching doctors so she will send the results up to him. 

My question is whether anyone has had this happen to them and if they later developed hypothyroidism from it?  My understanding is that the thyroid is damaged by these nodules and that if it is damaged, it can stop the thyroid from working.  Also, has anyone had this test done and found cancerous nodules?  It's all been so confusing to me since the doctors can't decide whether to be concerned or not.  I just want to figure it out and get on with my life.  Thanks for any information anyone has.
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Re: Thyroid Dysfunction: Diagnosis & Treament
« Reply #202 on: January 17, 2010, 10:36:38 PM »
  My mom had hers removed because of the chance of cancer and they ended up being cancerous. I have to ask her just how it went and if the Dr called it cysts/ nodules.. I remember her doing the radio active pills too. The surgeon ended up removing most of her thyroid and she has been on meds since. The surgery was successful and she has been well now for 18 yrs.
    If they have to remove some of your thyroid to get the cysts, you will end up with hypothyroid. I have to ask her to refresh my memory.

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« Reply #203 on: January 17, 2010, 10:41:05 PM »
Thanks, kamom.  That's just what I wanted to know.  I am praying that this is not cancer.  But it's good to know there are ways to help if it is.  Thanks again!
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« Reply #204 on: January 18, 2010, 02:42:45 AM »
Well, I skimmed the entire 6 pages and only found one post (and no answers) with this issue, so here goes...

Over the last week or two I have been diagnosed with thyroid cysts/nodules.  There is a 2 cm. cyst on the left of my thyroid and a smaller one on the right side.  I have had an MRI (that's how they found it - the MRI was for something unrelated to thyroid).  Because of the MRI findings, I had an ultrasound of the thyroid and that confirmed the cysts or nodules.  I am having an "uptake and scan" on Wednesday, the 8th, which involves taking a low-dose radioactive capsule and then having a scan after 6 hrs. and another after 24 hours.  I find out the results Monday the 13th.  Anyone with any experience with this?  I know that the tests are to rule out malignancy.  I haven't had any symptoms that I know of...I'm just trying to find out as much as I can.

TIA  :)

I know this is an old post, but I am wondering if any of you have had this problem and if you know if it is related to hypo or hyperthyroidism? 

After I had the flu this Thanksgiving, I developed a swollen thyroid and was unable to swallow.  I went to the ER and they sent me for an MRI.  The MRI showed two nodules on the left side.  They sent me to my doctor the next day and she sent me to a specialist the day after that.  They were pretty concerned and told me they would have to do a biopsy.  The specialist was very unconcerned and basically insinuated that because I was overweight and young, I couldn't have any problems and sent me home.  I don't even think he looked at my MRI, because he sent it home with me and told me to bring it back later.  He didn't do a biopsy; he barely even looked at me.  My doctor scheduled an ultrasound because the ER doctor had suggested it.  The ultrasound tech said there were two nodules on the left and one on the right.  He said that they would need to do a biopsy.  My doctor sent me a note saying I needed to f/u with the specialist and then they would do another ultrasound in 6 months.  I told her I would not go back to that specialist and that I had been having some weird symptoms (internal shakiness, lost 20 lbs in 2 weeks, ear pain, etc) so she ordered another thyroid blood test.  My TSH had been fine (so they said before) but now it is abnormal (don't know yet how much).  She has scheduled me for a nuclear medicine scan soon and I am switching doctors so she will send the results up to him. 

My question is whether anyone has had this happen to them and if they later developed hypothyroidism from it?  My understanding is that the thyroid is damaged by these nodules and that if it is damaged, it can stop the thyroid from working.  Also, has anyone had this test done and found cancerous nodules?  It's all been so confusing to me since the doctors can't decide whether to be concerned or not.  I just want to figure it out and get on with my life.  Thanks for any information anyone has.

When I was pregnant with my 3rd baby, a little over 5 years ago, my doctor noticed that my thyroid was enlarged. I was sent for a ultrasound, and they found a couple nodules in my thyroid. After my daughter was born, they did a biopsy to see if it was cancerous. It wasn't. Since then, no doctor has been able to tell me if I should be concerned, or if there is anything I can do to shrink my thyroid or get rid of the nodules. I get my thyroid levels tested once or twice a year, and I've had another ultrasound to monitor the growth of the nodules. It showed no significant growth. My thyroid levels are in the normal range, though I do seem to have the signs of hypothyroidism (dry skin and hair, weight gain, brittle nails, tiredness, thinning hair, etc.)
A couple years ago, I read a book by Sam Brownstein (think that's the name), called Iodine: Why You Need It and Why You Can't Live Without It. It's a pretty interesting book. I've been wanting to do the iodine fulfillment therapy that he talks about, I think it would really help my thyroid. But I've never been able to get an answer on whether or not it would be good to do while pregnant or nursing, and my doctor seems to think that it wouldn't be. I do take one tablet of Iodoral a day (though I've been out for a couple months), but I haven't noticed it making me feel any better. Now I'm just waiting to be done nursing and hoping I won't get pregnant again yet (well, kind of, lol), so that I can do the iodine therapy.
So, I know I didn't answer your questions, sorry.  :D It's been frustrating, nobody seems to be able to give me any answers. But I do recommend you read that book, it's pretty interesting. He also wrote a book that's just about the thyroid, but it had a lot of the same stuff in it.
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Re: Thyroid Dysfunction: Diagnosis & Treament
« Reply #205 on: January 18, 2010, 04:33:19 PM »
Thanks for the encouragement.  Why wouldn't it be good to take Iodine when pregnant or nursing?  I'm nursing a 6 month old right now and if I have to be on a supplement, I would like to go this way.  I don't really want to be on a synthetic drug the rest of my life.
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« Reply #206 on: January 18, 2010, 04:55:11 PM »
It's fine to take the Iodine while pregnant and nursing, I do. But the iodine fulfillment therapy that Dr. Brownstein talks about in his book puts you on high doses of iodine, which I still haven't figured out if it would be ok or not. I'm just playing it safe, since I can't seem to get any straight answers.  :)
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« Reply #207 on: March 20, 2010, 08:30:00 AM »
I recently came across some information on a possible cause of thyroid and Adrenal dysfunction I thought I would share.

Dr. Campbell-McBride in her book "Gut and Psychology Syndrome" discuses the role that our gut flora plays, one of those roles is it's job of synthesizing B vitamins and certain Amino Acids.  One of those Amino Acids that we get primarily from the byproducts of Pro-Biotic action in our intestines is Phenylalanine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenylalanine.  This is important in the thyroid/adrenal discussion because Phenylalanine is what the body makes L-Tyrosine from which is a critical component of Thyroid and adrenal hormones.

http://www.endocrineweb.com/thyfunction.html

http://thyroidtalk.org/hypothyroidism/tyrosine-for-hypothyroidism

From this I hypothesize that many times a disturbance of gut flora and pro-biotic action can starve the thyroid and adrenal glands of L-Tyrosine and lead to dysfunctions in these glands. 

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Re: Thyroid Dysfunction: Diagnosis & Treament
« Reply #208 on: December 17, 2010, 06:57:45 AM »
Hate to say it, but though hopefully your hubby will think outside the box with you, most everyone else you know will think you're a bit odd!  (My hubby's co-worker teases that I'm a witch doctor- garlic, onions, and he adds in about gourds and chicken feet   ::)

 ;D I am glad I am not the only one.  Even though no one has said that exactly I get the LOOK.  Or maybe I just feel like I do.  My husband says don't talk to people about it.  That is hard for me!