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Bed Wetting: Causes & Cures
« on: April 04, 2006, 06:47:59 AM »
I was wondering if anyone had ideas/experience on how to stop bedwetting?  My son is 5 and this has always been a problem for him.  We get him up around 11:00 to go potty, but half the time he still wakes up wet in the morning.  Sometimes he's already wet when we get him at 11:00.  He goes to bed around 8:00 every day and we make sure he doesn't drink very much after dinner.  My husband and I try to be patient and understanding, but this problem is really starting to bother our son.  Do we just have to wait for him to out grow this or is there a better way we can help?  It's hard to watch his distress, he feels frustrated that he can't control his own body.  Any suggestions would be most appreciated! Thanks!

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Re: Bed Wetting: Causes & Cures
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2006, 08:28:02 AM »
Hi Bizymum,
I've read that bedwetting is attributed to several things;
vitamin deficiency (primarily B6 and/or iron)
homogenized cows milk
soft drinks

I'll try to actually find the information on this, as soon as I can... Until then, try fresh milk if you can get it - goat is better than cow - and see if you can pick up a kids vitamin from an organic/natural store. Make sure that it does not have aspartame.

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Re: Bed Wetting: Causes & Cures
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2006, 12:53:31 PM »
       I have found that my 5 yo son has that problem when he has cow milk too; ...(He can't tollerate cow milk raw or store-bought, but is fine with goat milk.) BeeyoutifulGirl, is it the pasturization (killing enzymes) or the homoginization that makes the difference, and why? I know homog. is bad for your arteries, but why else is it bad? I can get hormone/antibiotic free milk, but not raw.
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Re: Bed Wetting: Causes & Cures
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2006, 01:10:46 PM »
      I know homog. is bad for your arteries, but why else is it bad? I can get hormone/antibiotic free milk, but not raw.

Check this thread for more info on Dairy and Homogenization.
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Re: Bed Wetting: Causes & Cures
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2006, 03:38:05 AM »
Bizymum I've had the same problem with my 2 oldest children 9 & 7. The 9 year old usualy makes it through the night now but still wets @ twice a week. My 7 year old wets probably 3-4 times a night! I wonder how he hs that much left in him. I switched him to raw milk and I'm trying a product from natures sunshine for bed wetting. I havn't done it consistently enough to know if it works or not. I'm going to do it this week consistently and I let you know if it makes any difference. I know how all the laundry can be. :P
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Re: Bed Wetting: Causes & Cures
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2006, 07:40:41 AM »
Our 5.5 yr old also does that. We potty her before we go to bed then also at 1am, which dad does much to his shegrin! SHe was going 2-3 times a night every night. I remember once a long time ago reading a title on a pamplet called Chiropratics & Bedwetting so I asked my Chiro, who is also a Christian and he said something about if the synapsis from the bladder to the brain aren't working, the child won't wake up when they have to pee. I've taken her twice (1 month apart) and now it has been reduced to 3-4 times a week.

Something a MD told me too was that if we limit the intake it makes it more irritating so they tend to go more often. If we give them more fluid, the bladder is able to fill up causing the 'I have to pee" feeling. But it's a fine line because we all know if they drink too much...

One thing that I noticed in our family is that if the kiddos don't get enough sleep, they tend to be deep sleepers and if both the 3.5yr old and 5.5yr old are in that deep sleep, well they are more apt to wet. So when they are getting good sleeps, the wetting is reduced as well.

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Re: Bed Wetting: Causes & Cures
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2006, 02:24:21 PM »
The ABC herbal suggests it can be a mineral deficiency.  I've mixed up the combo minerals that are suggested in it to try it with my 6yr old - he isn't a nightly wetter, but several times each month.  I haven't used them yet, as I forgot about them once I bottled them up and set them on the shelf. 

The mineral rich herbs we've used to make the tincture are red raspberry, oat straw, alfalfa, nettle and horsetail.  The author claims that a mineral tincture along with a licorice root tincture cured a bedwetting  problem with two of his sons.

The book also says that a good do-it-yourself mineral capsule if your child is old enough to swallow it is made from kelp, alfalfa, and dandelion.

I'll let you know if we see success from it - we're going to start using it tonight now that someone here answered my post regarding my question about a glycerite sitting too long.  Please post if you have success with anything that you try, I'm eager to help him overcome this issue.

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Re: Bed Wetting: Causes & Cures
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2006, 05:22:41 AM »
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For bed-wetting, try using buchu, corn silk, oat straw, parsley, and/or plantain. Take these herbs before 3:00 p.m.
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Re: Bed Wetting: Causes & Cures
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2006, 08:07:29 AM »
Here's an update on my son.  We've switched to skim milk for the past month, and I've been giving all the kids a multi-vit.  (Basic thing to remember, but I had just forgotten for a while...)  We don't drink soda very much at all so that wasn't a concern.  Since these changes, he is hardly wetting the bed at all!!  He's so happy in the morning when he comes to tell me he's dry!  Thank you so much to everyone!!!    :D 

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Re: Bed Wetting: Causes & Cures
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2006, 02:39:46 PM »
Hi I was wondering if anyone here has studied about bedwetting. My son wets the bed almost everynight and he is nine years old. What can I do?

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« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2006, 02:52:20 PM »
If you have the ABC Herbal book, he mentioned that he used and Herbal Tincture for his kids who wet the bed.  Someone borrowed mine and I forgot who, so maybe someone else has that info available to offer you. 
One thing I am using for my son is the dri-sleeper which is an alarm with a sensor that goes right in their undies so it beeps right away when they wet.  We just started using it and he woke up last night...finally.  I have been having to go in and shake him bounce him, wet his head to get him to wake up while things thing is beeping like crazy!  You have to make them be awake and turn it off.  It is supposed to train their mind to wake up when they have the urge.  The progression is supposed to be that the alarm will wake him up when he goes and then over as short of 1 wk to as much as 6 wks train his mind to be awake before he needs to go. 
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Re: Bed Wetting: Causes & Cures
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2006, 03:10:27 PM »
My son wet every night for a year unless we would take him in the middle of the night he just slept to soundly.
but I know of other people who tryed the alarm and it worked for them.
the first thing I tryed was not to allow drinks within two hours of bed and make sure they go before bed,but I always gave in and let them drink[they don't get enough through the day].
He still has set backs once in a while but only if he drinks a lot before bed or I forget to remind him to go before getting into bed.
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Re: Bed Wetting: Causes & Cures
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2006, 03:27:41 PM »
My son is four and still wets the bed just about every night.  I have tried everything herbal.  I bought Hyland's Bed wetting tablets and they worked surprisingly for a little while, but then he started to urinate, again.  I changed his linens almost everyday for about 6 months before I thought to put him in night time diapers.  I guess some kids have a hard time adjusting to their growing body.  Perhaps, it is genetics, too.  My mom said that I wet the bed often at night until about 5-6.  Also, my dad and his brother wet their bed until 8 and 9 as well.  Let me know if any of the herbal stuff works for you.  Perhaps, I will try again with my son.

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« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2006, 03:44:02 PM »
I just noticed that there is a previous thread on bedwetting.
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Re: Bed Wetting: Causes & Cures
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2006, 03:48:16 PM »
healthyinOhio, bewetting isn't listed as "problem" until after age 5.  :)

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« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2006, 04:53:37 PM »
I've had 3 almost nightly bedwetters. I used and liked the alarm for one (she was 9), but a few weeks after we took her off, she was wetting again. She sleeps really hard, but she was able to hear it. She just didn't know what she was doing. It was quite funny to watch some nights, and funnier to tell her the next morning what she was saying/doing. ;D Makes me laugh just thinking about it. It did not even come close to waking up my other hard sleeper, and my oldest grew out of it before I heard of the alarm. I have heard really great things about it from friends though, so I'd still give that a shot.
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Re: Bed Wetting: Causes & Cures
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2006, 05:08:54 PM »
My 5 year old was trained and started wetting the bed again.  I took her off juice and milk completely and put her in diapers for a week.  She didn't like the diapers, so she tried very hard to earn the right of panties back and the water flushed her system to make it easier for her.  Now she seems okay if she has sprite or koolaid once in awhile, but if I give her OJ she wets the bed again.  Something in the citrus?? 
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« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2006, 05:19:01 PM »
We have some corn that we pulled the cornsilk off of so I had him eat it.  Maybe I should try to give him more.  Cornsilk is good for ANYTHING that has to do with the urinary process.  bedwetting being one of them.  They do caution to be sure you get your cornsilk from a source that is not using pesticides or genetic engineering. 


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« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2006, 05:31:52 PM »
I have a 8 yo and 5 yo bedwetters.  Insead of putting new linens on the bed every day, I bought these reusable waterproof pads for their beds from Walmart.  They work great as long as they stay on the pad.  They are fairly large, but if your child moves around a LOT, they might not work.  My 8 yo is a hard sleeper.  He has recently been waking up every night and going to the bathroom in the middle of the night.  This has greatly reduced his incidents.  I read somewhere that bedwetting can be a sign of a magnesium deficiency.  I think that may be the problem with my 5yo since she also has severe leg pain frequently.  I bought the bone ami for her from beeyoutiful, but have heard that aloe vera juice works well too.  I'm interested in everyone else's take on this also.  I wet the bed until I was 12, my parents just spanked me.  They never really wondered if it might be a medical thing.  My mother and I have talked about it, and after years of intense therapy I am finally well.  (KIDDING  ;D)  Seriously though, don't embarass them.  They'll eventually grow out of it probably, I did.  Many times it's just a problem of them growing faster than their bladders.  :)
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« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2006, 04:15:44 PM »
My oldest is a bedwetter (age 7)...at the age of 6 we discussed the issue with her doctor since we were concerned about the amount she tinkles when she said she really had to go (just a small amount).   Several months later, a speacialist told us her bladder does not stretch very much but she should outgrow the bedwetting.  She is not a deep sleeper like most bed wetters and usually wets 3-4 times during her 11 hour night.  Her bladder just doesn't enlarge enough to hold the amount and she wets to relieve the pressure.   

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« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2006, 05:13:25 PM »
Insead of putting new linens on the bed every day, I bought these reusable waterproof pads for their beds from Walmart.  They work great as long as they stay on the pad.  They are fairly large, but if your child moves around a LOT, they might not work. 

Hey jaemom, what are these called and where in Walmart do you find them? This would make my daughter so happy. She really hates the wetting. :( It would be nice not to have to deal with the sheets so often.
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« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2006, 02:47:46 AM »
You know, come think of it, we bought ours at Albertsons (our grocery).  My hubby bought them, but I think they were about $15 for each.  They are water-proof sheet protectors.  Here's a link I found when I googled it that has different sizes and prices.  It also tells how much in cc's it will hold--not that I ever actually measured how much my kids go at night.  :D  At any rate, these are washable and reusable and a lot easier than changing sheets every day.  Here's the link: http://www.peejs.com/products/bed_protection.htm  Hope this helps.
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Re: Bed Wetting: Causes & Cures
« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2006, 06:55:42 AM »
These pads look very easy to use and maintain; however, my kids move around too much.  I usually wind up with "blankies" and blankets and sheets to wash, so I just bought a plastic incontinence sheet from walmart.  I think they cost $6 - $10 bucks depending on the size of the bed.  They make these like fitted sheets, but I get the kind that goes under and over the mattress like a sleeping bag and zips up all the way around.  I have used these in the past to treat for scabies as well, because mattresses are a very difficult place to treat successfully.   :-\
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« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2006, 11:29:32 AM »
Mine stayed in place pretty well, since they aren't smooth on the underside.  But, I might suggest if one were to buy them and their child moves around alot, maybe they could buy the cheap sheet straps that could hook to the underside of the mattress or something.
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« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2006, 12:29:50 PM »
I'm not sure if you ladies are just wanting to avoid pullups or not but my 7 yr old son is now too big for them but we just buy offbrand depends.  He is really skinny and the legs are kind of big but he just puts underwear over the top and then if anything gets a little wet it is just the underwear and then we don't have to change sheets everyday.  My husband accidentally bought adult diapers last time time instead of adult disposable underwear and actually they probly work better but it's probly a little humilitating for him but he is good about going ahead and wearing them. I wet the bed until I was 8. We have tried chiropractor(although I think that helps some that just isn't our problem)and we have had his anatomy checked to make sure that wasn't a problem. He does suffer from allergies pretty bad and I think restless sleep is a big part of it.  I used to think it was deep sleeping but now I actually think it is b/c he doesn't sleep well and when he is really messed up(like now)he grinds his teeth at night too.  I can't stand that sound.  I was a grinder too........poor guy.  He didn't get his skinny from me though!! :P

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« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2006, 07:33:25 PM »
Pullups are waaaaaaay too expensive.  I'd rather do laundry. (most days)  ;D
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« Reply #26 on: July 24, 2006, 03:10:15 PM »
My son wet the bed all the time, even through a pull-up, till age five.  We started seeing a chiropractor and I mentioned it.  He adjusted him, and he went that whole night without wetting the bed!! I was amazed!  He started wearing underwear to bed too.  Now he's 6 1/2 and whenever he wets the bed (he still does sometimes) I take him to the chiropractor, he adjusts him, and he doesn't wet the bed anymore after that.  I really believe that the chiropractics works!  It's true that when there's something not working right in his spinal cord to tell his body not to do that, he wets the bed.  But when the chiro fixes it, his body gets the signal and he's okay.
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Re: Bed Wetting: Causes & Cures
« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2006, 04:31:15 PM »
My son wet the bed all the time, even through a pull-up, till age five. We started seeing a chiropractor and I mentioned it. He adjusted him, and he went that whole night without wetting the bed!! I was amazed!

I have never been to a chiropractor before.  There seems to be sooo many of them.  How do you know when you have found a really good one.  Or are they all the same? 

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« Reply #28 on: July 24, 2006, 05:36:32 PM »
If there is a health food store near your home that you frequent, I would check with the employees and/or management there. They will know which doctors are concerned with the whole patient, sending them in for needed dietary changes and/or supplements. Also the HFS will know which customers seem to regain their health and see results. Otherwise, I would check with friends and/or relatives.
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« Reply #29 on: July 24, 2006, 09:24:45 PM »
My son wet the bed all the time, even through a pull-up, till age five. We started seeing a chiropractor and I mentioned it. He adjusted him, and he went that whole night without wetting the bed!! I was amazed!

I have never been to a chiropractor before.  There seems to be sooo many of them.  How do you know when you have found a really good one.  Or are they all the same? 

They are NOT all the same!  I have seen many a chiropractor in my lifetime (due primarily to many geographical moves), and there are not only differring techniques, but differing qualities.  Some have really been a GREAT benefit to me, a few (not many) have been creepy, or had a style that was painful to me.  I should be better versed to answer this question, but for now let me suggest you research/interview a few.  When I return from camping, I'll ask my chiropractor how best to select or find one in your area and I'll post that in a new 'chiro' thread.  ;)

My experience with chiropractic in regards to bedwetting is this:

I was a bedwetter into high school  >:( :o  I went through the spanking for it when I was younger, a minor surgery, many UTIs, many different urologists and tests, and the bedwetting alarm (which I HATED).  Nothing was a long-term solution.  It wasn't until mid-way through high school that I went to a chiropractor.  After being adjusted, I didn't wet.  At all.  Because my back had been out of alignment for some time, it took awhile for my muscles to keep it aligned - so I returned to the chiro every time I started to have a wetting problem again.  That lasted a few years (visiting every few months or so).  By the time I hit my 20s, I never wet the bed again.  HOWEVER, my back hasn't always remained aligned - and now I can tell when it's out with how my body signals when I need to urinate.  If I don't get much warning that I need to go, it means my back is out - the signal isn't getting through to my brain until it's almost too late (which is really fun when I'm pregnant - like now!)

This whole experience was such a HUGE relief to me that it made me really want to BE a chiropractor.  I still am a firm believer in chiropractic first, alternative/natural remedies next, drugs if necessary, and surgery as a last option only.  Maybe after my kids are all grown, I'll get to return to school and be a chiropractor after all... ::)

The reason I'm on this thread though, is because my boys (7 & 5) are still wetting nightly.  My current chiro has adjusted them, but tells me their bladders aren't growing as fast as they are. >:( ???  I'm not sure I can agree with this logic.  "Why?" you ask...

How has it been over the last 100+ years (not counting the last 30) for the millions of people who didn't have diapers or pull-ups to rely on?  When all there was was a giant family feather bed and an outhouse in the back yard, how long did kids wet the bed?  I can't imagine enuresis carried on long in those days (or in current cultures with similar situations).  How did our forefathers do it?

I've recently checked out a number of books from the library on this very subject.  Some may be helpful, but I am leary.  I'll let you know if I find any to be helpful.

For the time being, we have high quality shower curtains on each bed, under the mattress pad and sheets.  (The cheap shower curtains don't last at all.)  I do at least 2 loads of laundry every day just for the sheets.  We have gone through the pull-ups, but I really don't like the expense or the message it sends of being okay to wet.  We go through stages of waking (or attempting to wake them) in the night - that has only mildly been successful in keeping the bed dry.  It has not yet trained them to get up on their own in the middle of the night.  My daughter is 3, and we have her in a diaper at night, even though she is fully trained in the day.  Then, of course, there's the 1-year old, and the baby due in 3 weeks... ;)

I'm thinking it has been a training thing - that we have trained the kids to sleep through a wet diaper as an infant, so they are conditioned to sleep in it now.  How do I untrain them now?  (That's the WORK ahead...)
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