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« Reply #300 on: August 07, 2008, 04:46:12 AM »
A Candida-Cancer Connection:

From Dr. Mercola (mercola.com):

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Cancer, which surpassed heart disease as the number one killer in America in 2005, is still considered “a mystery” in conventional medicine. In fact, the term “cancer” is just a generic term that in no way describes its cause.

In this video, Doug Kaufman – a longtime proponent of the influence of fungi in human disease -- interviews the Italian oncologist Dr. Tullio Simoncini -- author of Cancer is a Fungus -- who shares fascinating new information about what he believes is the root of all cancers: fungi, and discusses a radically different path for curing cancer; sometimes in as little as a few days.

Conventional Cancer Treatments – Ineffective and Dangerous “Cures”

Currently, if you are diagnosed with cancer, especially in the U.S., you are given three options:

Surgery
Chemotherapy
Radiation
However, as mentioned in this video, finding actual statistics on the effectiveness of these treatments is very difficult. You’d think if something is the best medicine has to offer, they’d be more than happy to share their level of success.

Most people are given a 50/50 chance of dying from cancer, in general. And conventional treatments are touted as your best shot at surviving. 

But is it true?

According to Dr. Simoncini’s website, polls and questionnaires show that a full 75 percent of doctors say they’d refuse chemotherapy if they were struck with cancer due to its ineffectiveness and its devastating side effects. 

Many doctors have spoken out about it, yet their voices are still ignored. For example, Dr. Allen Levin, MD, author of The Healing of Cancer, has said, “The majority of the cancer patients in this country die because of chemotherapy, which does not cure breast, colon or lung cancer. This has been documented for over a decade and nevertheless doctors still utilize chemotherapy to fight these tumors.”

Professor Gorge Mathe similarly stated, “If I were to contract cancer, I would never turn to a certain standard for the therapy of this disease. Cancer patients who stay away from these centers have some chance to make it.”

So, how effective is chemotherapy?

There is at least one study that I know of that addresses this very question. Published in the journal Clinical Oncology in December 2004, the results of this study were astounding, showing that chemotherapy has an average 5-year survival success rate of just over 2 percent for all cancers!



In the U.S., chemo was most successful in treating testicular cancer and Hodgkin’s disease, where its success rate fell just below 38 percent and slightly over 40 percent respectively. 

Still well below the 50/50 mark… 

A review of chemo on 5-year survival rates in Australia garnered almost identical results, with a 2.3 percent success rate, compared to the U.S. 2.1 percent rate of success.

And yet this is the best that conventional medicine has up its sleeve for treating this widespread killer.

What Causes Cancer?

Conventional medicine likes to focus on the impact of genetics as a causative agent in developing cancer, despite the fact that research indicates that genetics is not the main cause of this widespread phenomenon, even though it may play a small role in some people. Unfortunately, little attention is paid to the impact of plain and simple infections.

Dr. Simoncini’s research has led him to believe that something as simple as a fungus, Candida, is the leading cause of cancer; that cancer itself is in fact a fungus. What we refer to as a tumor, is nothing more than your body’s attempt at protecting itself from that fungus.

He brings up an analogy between psoriasis – an “incurable” disease of the skin that many treat as a fungus – and tumors, which are also an “incurable” disease of your body. Several studies have linked the presence of Candida with cancer, showing that anywhere between 79 to 97 percent of all cancer patients also have Candida.

Dr. Simoncini’s explanation for how this phenomenon works – how Candida leads to deadly cancer – is that it’s a consequence of the weakening and exhaustion of your organs, and eventually your entire body, in the following stages:

Candida roots itself in your deep connective tissue in various organs
As a result, this evokes an organic defensive reaction as the connective tissue of your invaded organ attempts to encyst the fungin colonies through cellular hyper-production, which results in the formation of tumors
Growths continue as the fungi spreads, both in your surrounding tissue, and remotely (aka “metastatis”). It is still always the same Candida attacking different tissues, but due to its highly adaptive qualities it is able to mutate to adapt itself to whatever environment it finds itself in, hence the various types of tumors
Your body becomes progressively more exhausted, which allows the fungi to spread and take over more rapidly
You die from “cancer”
If Cancer is a Fungus, Then What is the Cure?

In the video, Dr. Simoncini shows actual before-and-after footage of both bronchial cancer and colon cancer. Four days after his revolutionary and mind-blowingly simple treatment for bronchial cancer with a sodium bicarbonate and water flush, the tumors are gone…

Sodium bicarbonate, a.k.a baking soda, is the most potent anti-fungal substance there is. The problem with anti-fungal drugs, however, is that fungi are extremely adaptive, and can adapt to a new environment in three to four days. This renders anti-fungal drugs largely ineffective. The fungi do not adapt to the baking soda, but it is far more difficult to use as it needs to be injected directly into the tumor; swallowing the baking soda would not work at all.

Candida yeast is not “one shared element,” so to speak, but rather “social elements,” or colonies, that are highly communicative.

Because of their unique adaptation skills, sodium bicarbonate must be administered directly onto the tumor, and in so doing changing its ph very quickly, from acid to alkaline, which quickly and effectively kills off the yeast before it has time to adapt.

For example, Dr. Simoncini’s experience has shown that 99 percent of breast- and bladder cancer can heal in just six days, entirely without the use of surgery, chemo or radiation, using just a local infiltration device (such as a catheter) to deliver the sodium bicarbonate directly to the infected site in your breast tissue or bladder.

Why the Baking Soda Cancer Cure is Not Available Everywhere

Unfortunately, Dr. Simoncini is yet another brilliant doctor who has been ousted from the medical community due to his revolutionary simple ideas of how to cure profit-making diseases. 

So many people refuse to believe that this is true and that it’s happening to good doctors, since “everyone knows” you must be a liability to human life if you’re stripped of your medical license. 

But the reason why Dr. Simoncini was kicked out is because as an oncologist – a cancer specialist -- he refused to use conventional cancer treatment methods, choosing instead to administer sodium bicarbonate, which is HARMLESS, as opposed to the often lethal use of chemotherapy. 

His lawyers have recently started a rehabilitation court trial at the International Court of Justice in Strassburg to have him reinstated.

Preventive Measures – Combating Candida

If the cause of cancer is the Candida fungus, then what is the root cause of the fungi? And how can you tell you might have too much yeast in your body, which might eventually lead to the formation of cancer?

A good sign that Candida is on the loose is feeling “run down” and developing a craving for sugars and carbohydrates, as this is the main fuel for the growing amounts of yeast in your intestine. The more sugar and grains you eat, the more the yeast grows out of control. Eventually, this will weaken your immune system, which in turn can allow it to infiltrate various other organs.

This imbalance in intestinal flora, sometimes called dysbiosis, can also lead to other more common, and less lethal, health problems, such as:

Vaginitis
Irritable bowel syndrome
Weight gain
Food allergies
Migraines
Asthma
Depression
Chronic fatigue syndrome and fibromyalgia
There are 79 different toxins released by the metabolism and die-off of Candida. This is why people with yeast overgrowth often feel so lousy; the Candida toxins are regularly entering their bloodstream. Two of these toxins, alcohol and acetaldehyde (the breakdown product of alcohol that causes hangovers), are in such high amounts in people with chronic yeast problems that you may actually end up feeling “drunk.”

Acetaldehyde also reacts with the neurotransmitter dopamine, which is why people with yeast overgrowth often experience mental and emotional disturbances such as anxiety, depression, poor concentration, and feeling spaced-out.

How to Cure a Yeast Overgrowth

For more on Candida and holistic treatment options, I recommend you review my previous article, Holistic Treatment for Candida Infection. The highlights of the treatments for yeast overgrowth include:



The Right Diet and Exercise -- A diet rich in meats, chicken, eggs, seeds and nuts, vegetables, and healthy oils (free range and organic) -- while avoiding sugars and carbohydrate-rich foods -- will restrict the amount of fuel the yeast in your intestine has available to it. I would add to this to make your diet in tune with your nutritional type. Once you’ve started on the diet, exercising will begin to rebalance the levels of neurotransmitters in your brain and improve your mood. One of the elements of diet that does seem counter intuitive is the absolute restriction of even fruits when one is seeking to eliminate yeast, as even the tiniest amounts of sugar seem to worsen this condition.

Getting Plenty of Good Bacteria -- You will want to increase your probiotic (good bacteria) intake with a high-quality probiotic supplement or by eating cultured and fermented foods, such as natto. These contain the good bacteria that keep your vagina and gastrointestinal tract healthy and will ultimately replace the Candida.

Avoiding Exposure to Chemicals -- Paints, household cleaners, perfumes and scents may cause allergic reactions, and chemical sensitivities are very common in people with yeast overgrowth.

Addressing Emotional and Psychological Issues -- Food cravings, especially those for sweets, often are exacerbated by emotional dependencies. Tools like the Emotional Freedom Technique (EFT) can help you to overcome unhealthy food cravings and other emotional hurdles.
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Re: Candida / Yeast: Symptoms & Cures
« Reply #301 on: August 07, 2008, 05:49:14 AM »
4MY...
I am sorry to hear of your symptoms(plus)  returning. I have noticed that when my yeast is in remission and I start eating more "fun stuff" that it takes a while to catch up with me. I'll get away with it for a while and then wham. So I can really understand your frustration and disappointment.

I was wondering what yeast killing herbs you had switched to and what you had been using before you had the period of improved health.

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« Reply #302 on: August 09, 2008, 09:59:19 AM »
thanks, Gals.  i am back on the really strict diet and not liking it.  i am back to craving, and yucky die off. :P

KHIX--i read somewhere about Baking soda baths, anyone know how much?  does it really work to alleviate the candida?  has anyone had success with this?  i think i will try to get some caprillic acid and olive leaf, can it be taken with Candida Clear?  going to go look and see if it's in there. 

well, it's too bad this has to be soooo hard.  :'( so glad for the support here. 
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« Reply #303 on: August 09, 2008, 10:34:58 AM »
You know, I just thought of something else.  Have you tried essiac tea??  We went on a yeast cleanse after several years of working on health.  One of those things was essiac tea.  We took it faithfully for about a year before we did our yeast diet.  This tea is supposed to kill yeast as well.  Maybe this is why our cleanse worked faster?? 

Also, on the baking soda:  It's the weirdest thing, but when my son was having a bad food reaction, I could give him 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda in some lemon water.  It would fizz up, then I'd give it to him, after the fizz died down.  The absolute minute he drank this, he'd calm down.  He'd go from all red and screaming, to smiling, and singing songs.  I don't know why baking soda helped, and I don't know how it worked so fast, but it does seem to help with food reactions.  Maybe a bath would just be another way to ingest some of it, and works kind of like drinking it?  I think if I were you, I'd definitely look into the baking soda thing.  Cheap, and maybe effective.  :)

Let us know if you learn anything else!  Keep us posted on how you're doing!

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« Reply #304 on: August 09, 2008, 11:14:52 AM »
I actually did some bleach baths a few weeks ago when I had a rash from the candida that was driving me crazy. I had tried an oxygen bath without much result. The bleach baths really dried it up after about 3 or 4 days in a row. The recommended amount is 2 tbsp in 1/2 tub of water but I used about 1/3 cup because I was getting desperate. I used Clorox because it was what I had on hand.

Also the Essiac tea makes sense in that it is a cancer fighting substance and I am now convinced that the link between cancer and candida is real. Since khix posted the above excerpt from Dr. Mercola's site, I have gone to Dr. Simoncini's website and read just about everything there. He has a book too but I haven't read that.

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« Reply #305 on: August 09, 2008, 11:17:10 AM »
Also, on the baking soda:  It's the weirdest thing, but when my son was having a bad food reaction, I could give him 1/4 teaspoon of baking soda in some lemon water.  It would fizz up, then I'd give it to him, after the fizz died down.  The absolute minute he drank this, he'd calm down.  He'd go from all red and screaming, to smiling, and singing songs.  I don't know why baking soda helped, and I don't know how it worked so fast, but it does seem to help with food reactions.  Maybe a bath would just be another way to ingest some of it, and works kind of like drinking it?  I think if I were you, I'd definitely look into the baking soda thing.  Cheap, and maybe effective.  :)

Let us know if you learn anything else!  Keep us posted on how you're doing!

I don't know why it works either, but in "Is This Your Child" by Doris Rapp, she says to give the baking soda just as you did to reverse an allergic reaction...

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« Reply #306 on: August 09, 2008, 11:42:26 AM »
We both also have a ton of allergies and our hope is that getting the candida under control will help to alleviate some of those allergies...especially the foods. 
Jammie

i moved this over to here to stay on topic, Jammie, i wonder if you abstain from your food allergens when you do the candida diet?   i was on a food allergy diet years ago, abstaining from milk and all dairy, eggs, beef, bananas, mushrooms, and something else which i can't remember.  i just wonder if i had done both at the same time if it would have been more effective.  i ate a lot of beans etc. at that time, to replace the protein i was getting from those things.  i think i would just be eating chicken at every meal, ???  if i couldn't eat cheese, beef & eggs.  the eggs don't seem to bother me anymore, and cheese either.  i can also do yogurt, but not milk much at all.  anyway, i was just curious to see how you do it?

I just now read this..I haven't been online in a while.  When I did the candida cleanse, I did not abstain from my allergens since most are low carb.  I'm allergic to peanuts, eggs, chicken and others.  I don't know if it would have been more effective, but I suspect it would have.  My eczema never cleared up and now is much worse.  I will say that my energy was so dramatically improved on the cleanse that I feel certain Candida was my problem and still is.  Hubby wants to lose weight so we are doing a low carb menu for a while to see if it helps both of us.  I'm going to do the 25 carbs/day for the first week with PB8 probiotics and an herbal yeast killer as well as cod liver oil and come coconut oil.

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« Reply #307 on: August 12, 2008, 01:51:10 AM »
thanks, Gals.  i am back on the really strict diet and not liking it.  i am back to craving, and yucky die off. :P

KHIX--i read somewhere about Baking soda baths, anyone know how much?  does it really work to alleviate the candida?  has anyone had success with this?  i think i will try to get some caprillic acid and olive leaf, can it be taken with Candida Clear?  going to go look and see if it's in there. 

well, it's too bad this has to be soooo hard.  :'( so glad for the support here. 
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« Reply #308 on: October 15, 2008, 08:33:02 AM »
I still have SLS in my house.  Am I just going to do a cleanse to no avail if I am still using products with SLS in them?  I am trying to be a good steward and use up all that I have before I move on to purchasing the better alternatives, without SLS and other chemicals.  Will a cleanse be effective, even though I am still using products with unnatural chemicals, like SLS, in them?

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« Reply #309 on: October 15, 2008, 09:00:56 AM »
I have done the same as you and am just now getting to down to the last of the SLS products in my house.  I have had much progress with cleansing even with them around.  I'm sure it goes a little faster without them but I think it is not for nothing!

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« Reply #310 on: October 19, 2008, 05:16:04 PM »
Just a tidbit I ran across in the book I'm reading.
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Did you know that there are 400,000 species of fungi, out of which 400 are pathogens?  In 1990, Elizabeth Moore-Landecker revealed fungi and their mycotoxins are able to cause genetic variations and mutations.  The fact that mycotoxins (fungal toxins) can cause cancer is not up for grabs.  In the American Cancer Society Textbook of Clinical Oncology, 2nd ed. 1995, it states "mycotoxins are genotoxic carcinogens, and exposure begins in utero and in mother's milk, continuing throughout life; these conditions favor the occurrence of disease."

from Cancer:  Step Outside the Box

If I understand this correctly, it says that candida (one species of fungi) and it's toxins can be passed from mother to child both in utero and through breast milk.  This should or would answer the question "Can babies be born with Candida?"
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« Reply #311 on: October 24, 2008, 06:05:20 PM »
MSM may aid in killing and/or preventing Candida and/or Leaky Gut.

http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,1591.msg206874.html#msg206874
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« Reply #312 on: November 22, 2008, 03:25:29 PM »
I was just about to post on here about Cancer is a Fungus and I saw that someone already had.  Has anyone read it and come up with any opinion on it?  I am planning to buy it.       ~L

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« Reply #313 on: December 28, 2008, 08:22:15 AM »
Okay I have just been reading thru this whole thread because I know my mom has candida really bad and is having all sorts of issues with it and I know I do as well....

My question is .....Is acidopholus...a probiotic...I have been thinking it is...I give my daughter fish oil and acidopholus every morning and I know it helps her so much...I even took her off it for a few days when reading the newest information on no clo ....but her behavior started getting so out of hand I put her back on it...and she is on her way back to being her sweet self again!

Anyway...I am a bit confused with acidopholus and probiotic...what actually is aprobiotic....on so many boards I have read to eliminate Yogurt and Kefir...for candida....and fruit....but then read apples was okay.....help!!! Beth in Idaho

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« Reply #314 on: December 28, 2008, 05:56:23 PM »
Probiotics are potentially beneficial bacteria and yeasts.
 
 Yes, acidolphilus is a probiotic. However lactobacillus acidolphilus is only one strain of lactobacillus bacteria.Another common class are bifidobacterium in several strains. IMO a good probiotic supplement will have several strains of lactobacillus at a minimum. The best supplements will also have some healthy yeasts such saccharomyces boulardi and several strains of lacto and bifido bacteria; these are sometimes labled HSOs (homeostatic soil organisms).

I don't believe there is a better general probiotic formula better than raw goat milk kefir. If aged and unsweetened it should work fine for most cases of candida. There are instances where the gut is sooo damaged that no dairy should be used. Homemade saurkraut or its liquid would be an alternative form of food based probiotic in such cases.
Always introduce probiotics slowly whether in food or supplement form.
Green apples and berries are generally ok in small amounts. If you look at the glycemic index of these as compared to other fruits you will see the difference. 
If you have not yet looked at the GAPS diet I encourage you to do so. It pulls together many of the necessary components of anti-candida diets and also gives you tools to determine how fast to move back to a normal and balance diet. Here's the WTM thread on GAPS. http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,20533.0.html Do follow the links to the .com site... Well worth the time!

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« Reply #315 on: December 30, 2008, 12:36:51 PM »
Okay....I am getting more confused on this the more I read....on Bee's natural healing site to heal candida...she says to eliminate all dairy and all fruit because they feed candida...so if I used honey or yogurt that is okay on the GAP diet wouldnt that feed the candida?

Also reading it seems that better results have been gotten from the GAP diet...that seems contradictory to eliminating dairy and honey....as suggested on Bees site....Also what about nuts? I am confused how these cause candida....

The more I read the dumber I am feeling! Beth in Idaho

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« Reply #316 on: December 30, 2008, 02:05:53 PM »
The GAPS book/plan does address the candida question, and notes that if you suspect yeast overgrowth, to reduce/eliminate sweets.  She also recommends S. boulardii (in addition to Bio-Kult) to fight yeast (it's not in the 14 strain probiotic b/c it works better apart from those strains). 

The nut issue was due to molds, I believe, which promote candida.

The GAPS probiotic and bone broths are very healing...not sure Bea has those. 

It IS confusing!  I just came off of Bea's program.  Hope some of this answered your ?s.  :)
Okay....I am getting more confused on this the more I read....on Bee's natural healing site to heal candida...she says to eliminate all dairy and all fruit because they feed candida...so if I used honey or yogurt that is okay on the GAP diet wouldnt that feed the candida?

Also reading it seems that better results have been gotten from the GAP diet...that seems contradictory to eliminating dairy and honey....as suggested on Bees site....Also what about nuts? I am confused how these cause candida....

The more I read the dumber I am feeling! Beth in Idaho

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« Reply #317 on: December 30, 2008, 02:09:58 PM »
How long were you on Bea's program and do you feel better? I am copying off a 40 page document from her site right now...it has taken a couple hrs because I have a very slow printer...I am going to sit down and read this later....I thought Bea's program did have the broth but maybe not...I do find it so confusing...I do know that giving up sugar for me is going to be very painful!! Beth in Idaho

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« Reply #318 on: December 30, 2008, 03:34:37 PM »
Okay....I am getting more confused on this the more I read....on Bee's natural healing site to heal candida...she says to eliminate all dairy and all fruit because they feed candida...so if I used honey or yogurt that is okay on the GAP diet wouldnt that feed the candida?

Also reading it seems that better results have been gotten from the GAP diet...that seems contradictory to eliminating dairy and honey....as suggested on Bees site....Also what about nuts? I am confused how these cause candida....

The more I read the dumber I am feeling! Beth in Idaho
Unsweetened yogurt has very low sugar content because the bacteria convert it during fermentation.  It really depends on how bad one has the condition how far you need to restrict the diet.  I personally would avoid honey for a few weeks, but add it back in place of other sugars as the condition improves and allows.  To treat candida, you need not eat sugar free forever, just until the gut is cleaned and repopulated with good bacteria (flora).
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« Reply #319 on: December 30, 2008, 03:37:19 PM »

My question is .....Is acidopholus...a probiotic...
Probiotics by definition are any bacteria or yeast that are considered benign or beneficial to the digestive tract.  There are many.  Acidophilus is the most commonly used/known and generally the most effective against candida, but should not be the only strain used for repopulation of the gut.  The more variety in probiotic strains you can introduce to the diet the better in the long run.  That's why high strain supplements or introducing a variety of fermented foods (beet kvass, sauer kraut, kombucha, yogurt, kefir, kimchi, etc) is a good way to go.
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« Reply #320 on: December 30, 2008, 04:23:13 PM »
The GAPS intro diet does eliminate all dairy and honey for almost 4 weeks if I remember correctly.


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« Reply #321 on: December 30, 2008, 04:29:58 PM »
I did an anti-yeast diet for 4-6 week this fall.  The thread about w/ daily log for anti-yeast diets had a lot of info from her site.  It helped w/ energy and my skin, but I have greater issues than yeast.  I think that the GAPS program targets my needs w/ a more comprehensive approach, but Bea's program is also a very good/thorough one for yeast, especially considering she is not a medical Dr!   ;)

She may have the bone broths, too (looks like it on her recipes page)...  She was of the persuasion that probiotics would be added last, whereas w/ GAPS you start w/ a heavy duty one, incrementally, right away.  And I don't think Bea had yogurt or kefir.  GAPS was initially designed for the Dr.'s autistic son, and it was soon seen to be beneficial for others who had gut dysbiosis/immune systems compromised through antibiotics, vaccinations, use of formula, contraceptives, poor eating, etc.

Giving up sugar is painful but so worth it.  The first few days are the worst, but up your fats and that will help...go slow and steady to better your chances of success.  :)

How long were you on Bea's program and do you feel better? I am copying off a 40 page document from her site right now...it has taken a couple hrs because I have a very slow printer...I am going to sit down and read this later....I thought Bea's program did have the broth but maybe not...I do find it so confusing...I do know that giving up sugar for me is going to be very painful!! Beth in Idaho

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« Reply #322 on: December 30, 2008, 04:53:15 PM »
I am wondering if maybe....it would be a good idea to start with Bee's candida diet...but I would add the probiotics at the beginning and then do that for a 4 weeks or so...and then change over to GAPS? Do you feel it would be beneficial...to just start with GAPS first? and not do Bee's program?

I do not know if I have candida but have had my thumb nails start to have deep ridges in them about 10 yrs ago...and they have gotten worse and sometimes they get hot and hurt...so I am wondering after reading if this could be a source of candida...as well as my hair has fallen out over the yrs and not regrown...someone mentioned Iodine for that and I am going to go back and look at the thread to see if I can get any information...My NP actually had me on that for a short time for what she thought might be a thyroid issue but I saw no results...I have had such a sweet and carb diet that I wanted to do something to try and get rid of the candida if there is any....

So I guess I am just wondering since you have done Bee's program are you now doing GAPS and do you feel this is the best approach?

Thank you so much everyone for your responses and information...I was on this board a yr or so ago and havent been back but it really is one of my most favorites because everyone is so caring...and helpful....Thank you so much! Beth in Idaho

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Re: Candida / Yeast: Symptoms & Cures
« Reply #323 on: December 30, 2008, 05:06:10 PM »
Well...Bee's is good, but 2 programs would confuse me.  I guess if you're "only" dealing w/ yeast, then the GAPS program really wouldn't be ideal.  If you have a history of antibiotics, though, or other things that have compromised your gut flora/immune system, well, I think GAPS is well-designed and a good thing to investigate.  Knowing what you are fighting is the big thing.  If you read some of mykidsmom's recent posts, you'll see what I mean.  I thought I was "only" fighting yeast, but it turns out I may have a bigger battle ahead.

For me, GAPS I think, will address my issues better.

The sweets/carbs craving could be yeast or it could be the whole opiate effect of undigested gluten that the GAPS Dr. discusses.

Keep pressing on!
I am wondering if maybe....it would be a good idea to start with Bee's candida diet...but I would add the probiotics at the beginning and then do that for a 4 weeks or so...and then change over to GAPS? Do you feel it would be beneficial...to just start with GAPS first? and not do Bee's program?

I do not know if I have candida but have had my thumb nails start to have deep ridges in them about 10 yrs ago...and they have gotten worse and sometimes they get hot and hurt...so I am wondering after reading if this could be a source of candida...as well as my hair has fallen out over the yrs and not regrown...someone mentioned Iodine for that and I am going to go back and look at the thread to see if I can get any information...My NP actually had me on that for a short time for what she thought might be a thyroid issue but I saw no results...I have had such a sweet and carb diet that I wanted to do something to try and get rid of the candida if there is any....

So I guess I am just wondering since you have done Bee's program are you now doing GAPS and do you feel this is the best approach?

Thank you so much everyone for your responses and information...I was on this board a yr or so ago and havent been back but it really is one of my most favorites because everyone is so caring...and helpful....Thank you so much! Beth in Idaho

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Re: Candida / Yeast: Symptoms & Cures
« Reply #324 on: December 31, 2008, 05:35:07 AM »
Here is what I do know....I know that I do not process carbs well...I do need fiber and have a constipation issue...I went to my naturepath and did some tests and we know I have adrenal fatique and cfs as well as my cortisol is very low...is that the flight freeze stress hormone? If so it was very low....When I started baking my own bread...I gained weight right away...Due to an accident I had to have steriods injections in Aug I put 10 lbs on almost right away...My body does not do well with any sort of meds...

I know I sometimes get a really dizzy and bad mood from sugar...but I crave them....so crazy..I know it affects me in a bad way yet...I eat them anyway....

I also have a daughter brought home at 9.5 months who has had all kinds of attachment stuff and oppositional defiance disorder....I work hard to keep her diet *clean* but have noticed she is eating more sweets just like when we go to church they give them out to the kids and stuff like that....I have gotten amazing results with giving her acidopholus and fish oil every morning...without it she can not keep her *rages* under control...so wondering with her as well if this wouldnt help her too....She has been immunized and came home with who knows what kind of immunizations as far as *quality* By law I had to finish her immunizations but did them very far apart and not all together...trying to keep it as less as possible on her immune/nervous system....

So far it looks like the GAP diet does not allow honey or fruits at the beginning...but can be added back in later...and that the SCD diet does allow these in the beginning....so I think I will do some more research today and head towards the GAP diet...I think so far that looks like the easiest one to follow....

One more thing....is eggs not allowed on GAPS??
I just love that there is a thread here with people following them both...it is so helpful in my quest on how to follow it....Thanks again Beth in Idaho

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Re: Candida / Yeast: Symptoms & Cures
« Reply #325 on: December 31, 2008, 07:23:20 AM »
.she says to eliminate all dairy and all fruit because they feed candida..

From the recent books that I have read the only safe fruits that do not feed candida are:  grapefruit, green apples, and berries.

Milk that is pasteurized is questionable, but I have not found that raw milk products feed candida.

But every site and every book says something different, so who knows.  ::) ;D

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Re: Candida / Yeast: Symptoms & Cures
« Reply #326 on: December 31, 2008, 02:22:01 PM »
Eggs are OK on GAPS.  :)
she says to eliminate all dairy and all fruit because they feed candida..
From the recent books that I have read the only safe fruits that do not feed candida are:  grapefruit, green apples, and berries.

Milk that is pasteurized is questionable, but I have not found that raw milk products feed candida.

But every site and every book says something different, so who knows.  ::) ;D
I've seen that the tart fruits are OK (cranberries, lemons, limes) are OK...raw milk does have natural sugars, but...???  It seems OK to most.

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Re: Candida / Yeast: Symptoms & Cures
« Reply #327 on: January 07, 2009, 10:47:19 AM »
I am starting my regimen tomorrow and am armed with all my supplements, healthy foods in the fridge.  One thing I am confused about is the amounts I am to take when.  Here is what I have

Acidopholus Blast - take till yeast is at bay, then switch to
Ultimate Defense - take as instructed for ??? amount of time

Digestive Enzymes - take as package instructs throughout cleanse
Omega 3-6-9 - take as package instructs throughout
Aloe Vera - take as package instructs throughout

Tummy Tune-up - take after you are finished with ultimate defense????

Also, I have Yeast Assassin - where does that come into play?

I'm confusing myself.  Can someone please set me straight?

Thanks so much!

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Re: Candida / Yeast: Symptoms & Cures
« Reply #328 on: January 08, 2009, 01:41:45 AM »
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Re: Candida / Yeast: Symptoms & Cures
« Reply #329 on: January 08, 2009, 03:22:49 AM »
Here is an illustration of what a postive candida spit test is supposed to look like for those who were wondering. It came from this website:
http://www.adhdrelief.com/CandidaTest.html

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Might I have a problem with Candida Yeast?
You can try this simple test to find out.

First thing in the morning, before you put ANYTHING in your mouth, fill a clear glass with room temperature Bottled Water.

Work up a bit of saliva, then spit it into the glass of water. Check the water every 15 minutes or so for up to one hour.

If you have a potential problem, you will see strings (like legs) traveling down into the water from the saliva floating on the top, or "cloudy" saliva will sink to the bottom of the glass, or cloudy specks will seem to be suspended in the water.

If there are no strings and the saliva is still floating after at least one hour, you probably have Candida under control, and have nothing to worry about.  Congratulations.

The Results

What can I do if the test shows positive?

First, talk this over with your health care provider, as soon as possible.

Next, contact the person that sent you to this web page, they may have some helpful specific suggestions.

Be aware that a Candida Yeast problem can be pretty difficult to deal with, especially after it has had enough time to get established and be causing you problems.

It may not be easy, and it may take a while to impact the situation, be patient, and work on it everyday.

Your good health is at stake!