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« Reply #30 on: July 17, 2006, 12:23:02 PM »
Dear Abbilynn,

If you have good insurance or if money is not an issue, I would insist that the doctor run the tests needed to make those determinations.  To dismiss something out of hand is not even professional.  A food allergy panel is a simple blood test and will tell you alot quickly.  Or confirm what you already suspect.  :-)  Our ND did a comprehensive stool analysis and that is how he found the yeast but perhaps there are other tests for that.  I thought I read recently someone mentioned a saliva test?

If this doctor will not even run some basic tests to do a thorough diagnostics than I would change doctors.  It took me three years of beating my head against a brick wall to do so, and wish I had much sooner.  But I found a great ND who also happens to be a Christian (even passes out TTUAC) to patients as he deems necessary.  :-)  It has made ALL the difference in Seth's care and treatment.  And what I find interesting in a sad sort of way is that the diagnostics he uses aren't "new age" or alternative type things, but comprehensive blood panels and other labs that ANY doctor should be well aware of and able to utilize.  Sound science.  But then when he determines what is wrong, we attack it from a nutritional and natural methodology.

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« Reply #31 on: July 17, 2006, 01:57:10 PM »
That's what I was hoping his doctor would say he could do.  But this may be a blessing in disguise b/c my husband's company just switched insurance on us and the pediatrician is no longer in-network.  We were so bummed b/c he is such a Godly man and has known us for over 6 years.  This is the first time ever I do not feel like he is right.  So, finding another doctor seems to be the direction we need to take.  The down side is that even if a new doctor, or the specialist he is scheduled to see in Sept., will run diagnostic tests, our insurance won't cover very much of it.  We are already in-debt with therapy bills.  But God will provide money from somewhere.  It is obvious He is laying this path, so He will provide a way where there is none!
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« Reply #32 on: July 17, 2006, 02:13:18 PM »
Praise GOD! the topics that I have been reading are showing me the different actions in my family "signs" of dietary problems and I am blessed that I can glean truths from your discoverys I will be praying that he will show you his will for your families. God bless.
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« Reply #33 on: July 17, 2006, 03:03:45 PM »
I looked at that web site that abbilynn talked about, treelac is something that I have seen beka talk about is that something that beeyoutiful carries or can get for us? I feel like I'm swimming in the ocean and I'm drownding in info. can anyone explain this more so it makes since?
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Re: Candida / Yeast: Symptoms & Cures
« Reply #34 on: July 17, 2006, 03:20:14 PM »
Sherri,
ThreeLac is a yeast cleansing.  It is safe for children and adults, but expensive.  Beeyoutiful does not carry it.  They carry a yeast cleanse called Yeast Assassin but it is for adults only.  I, too, feel as if I could drown in all this information!  I think something important to remember if attempting a yeast cleanse is that sugars must be eliminated from the diet, at least during the cleansing, since yeast feeds on sugar.  I'm told it is helpful to be on a good probiotic also like Tummy Tune Up from beeyoutiful. 
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« Reply #35 on: July 17, 2006, 03:26:46 PM »
ALL SUGAR?
even honey or fruit?
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« Reply #36 on: July 17, 2006, 03:33:06 PM »
Well, that's what I asked too but no one really said.  It seems like if you limited natural sugar and stayed completely away from all refined stuff you may be okay.  Not sure though.  We already have taken away refined sugars and dyes b/c it effects his sensory issues really bad.
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« Reply #37 on: July 18, 2006, 05:01:03 AM »
Sherri,
I just read that if there is a yeast problem, all sugars need to be eliminated from the diet, including natural ones.  They recommend only allowing 2 servings of peelable fruit per day.  No honey, molasses, etc.  They did mention Stevia as being an allowable substitute, but said it is expensive.  I got the info from the book "Special Diets for Special Kids."
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« Reply #38 on: July 18, 2006, 05:46:03 AM »
Peelable? bananas have the most sugar of all fruits ,but I would assume them to mean more citris.
I baught a juicer last night and I'm going to try getting as much veg-fruit juice down us as possible to get the nutrients that I know we are not getting.
This morning I got 4oz. of carrot,apple, banana juice down them w/o a fight,so we'll keep trying that until I learn more.
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« Reply #39 on: July 18, 2006, 06:21:10 AM »
Yeah, I'm not sure why "peelable" means anything.  Bananas are full of sugar.  But they were saying that sometimes the same kids who react to gluten and casien also react to citrus.  Also, maybe the type of natural sugar in citrus is more prone to yeast?  Not sure though.  Orange is peelable but citrus.  So maybe that theory doesn't work.  Let me know if you find any good info on this!
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« Reply #40 on: July 18, 2006, 12:31:06 PM »
Now what?  What else can I give him to take care of the yeast problem? 

I got rid of all my family's yeast problems with this product...
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« Reply #41 on: July 19, 2006, 05:46:25 PM »
One book that gets into what sugars to eliminate for yeast is "Breaking the Vicious Cycle:  Intestinal Health Through Diet."  The diet is suitable for yeast, some behavioral issues, and several digestive/intestinal disorders.   From what I understand, monosaccarides like honey or completely ripe bananas are ok.  But no grains at all on that diet, so I didn't try it.  I'm trying to do use the Nourishing Traditions book for diet and see if that helps our family.  It's hard for me to get all unfermented grains out though.

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« Reply #42 on: July 20, 2006, 06:23:41 AM »
Now what?  What else can I give him to take care of the yeast problem? 

I got rid of all my family's yeast problems with this product...
www.stopyeast.com

OK I went to the website and it all sounds good except for the price :o  I want to know something that I didn't find on the site though.  Does the yeast stay gone?  Do you have to do something to keep it gone? 

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« Reply #43 on: July 20, 2006, 09:19:57 AM »

ALL SUGAR?
even honey or fruit?
Sherri

Actually, any fruit that is considered and "acid fruit" is okay according to my naturopath. They consist of  Acerola cherry, sour apple, (granny smith), cranberry, currant, gooseberry, grapefruit, sour (green) grape, kumquat, lemon, lime, loganberry, orange, sour peach, pineapple, sour plum, pomegranate, strawberry, tangerine, tomato.

The best veges during a yeast killoff are the non-starch/green veges. These include artichoke, asparagus, bamboo shoots, bell pepper, beet top, bok choy, broccoli, brussel sprouts, cabbage, cauliflower, celery, chive, cilantro, collard, chard, cucumber, dandelion, eggplant, endive, escarole, garlic, green beans, kale, kohlrabi, leek, lettuce, mushroom*, okra, onion, parsley, fresh peas, radish, radiccio, spinach, sprouts, squash, (not banana or hubbard), swiss chard, turnip top, watercress, zucchini.

I think I just read that mushrooms should be avoided during a yeast cleanse as well, because they are a fungus, which I guess could add to the problem.

Basically ANYTHING sweet in the realm of fruit and anything starchy in the realm of veges should be avoided. Yes, it is extremely limiting, but very effective!

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Re: Candida / Yeast: Symptoms & Cures
« Reply #44 on: July 20, 2006, 07:37:58 PM »
OK I went to the website and it all sounds good except for the price :o  I want to know something that I didn't find on the site though.  Does the yeast stay gone?  Do you have to do something to keep it gone? 

Shawna :-*

Yeast is naturally occuring in everyone's digestive system and left unchecked it will grow out of controlled again and again.  You need to avoid drugs that kill the good bacteria (oral contraceptives, NSAIDS and antibiotics) and make sure you get the good guys population way up and keep it up (kefir, yogurt, fermented foods, probiotics, etc) and keep the sugars and refined starches and grains to a minimum so as not to feed the bad guys.
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« Reply #45 on: July 21, 2006, 01:49:25 AM »
Since salt kills yeast, wouldnt the cleanses that require you to drink salt water be good for killing this too?   Just a thought!
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« Reply #46 on: July 21, 2006, 02:43:29 AM »
I went to my health food store and the lady there mentioned using digestive enzymes for yeast problems.  They sold a pill and a powder specifically made for children.  Maybe this could help kids with a yeast problem?  I remember thinking it was expensive, but maybe it was comparable to other yeast treatments like threelac?  Here's a thread on enzymes and candida. http://welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,1412.0.html
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« Reply #47 on: July 21, 2006, 06:36:19 AM »
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Yeast is naturally occuring in everyone's digestive system and left unchecked it will grow out of controlled again and again.  You need to avoid drugs that kill the good bacteria (oral contraceptives, NSAIDS and antibiotics) and make sure you get the good guys population way up and keep it up (kefir, yogurt, fermented foods, probiotics, etc) and keep the sugars and refined starches and grains to a minimum so as not to feed the bad guys.

I have a question about the antibiotics too.  I have mitral valve prolapse and require an antibiotic premed before any dental work.  That includes even getting me teeth cleaned.  I hate this but they won't do it otherwise.  What can I do to offset the effects of this? 
I don't eat sugars and refined starches as I must watch my blood sugar levels.  I eat a low carb diet.  I only eat whole grains, but you said to keep grains at a minimum.  Does this mean my whole grains too?  I make my own bread, with organic wheat. 

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« Reply #48 on: July 21, 2006, 07:10:42 AM »
I went to the stopyeast website and it sounds great.  But the price I just can't swing.  I've been battling yeast and it's gotten out of control again.  I guess I need to be more aggressive and make sure I do a routine long enough to kick it.  I am taking Yeast Assassin and Tummy Tune-up. If anyone has any other suggestions to speed things along (other than diet as I'm watching my sugar intake), that might be in comparison to the ThreeLac/Oxygen Enzyme treatment, but cheaper, please share!   :)

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« Reply #49 on: July 21, 2006, 07:13:17 AM »
I have a question about the antibiotics too.  I have mitral valve prolapse and require an antibiotic premed before any dental work.  That includes even getting me teeth cleaned.  I hate this but they won't do it otherwise.  What can I do to offset the effects of this?

Antibiotics kill the microflora (bacteria) that are supposed to be living in your GI tract.  These bacteria control infections from EColi, Salmonella, stomach viruses and YEAST.  Without them, you are susceptable to catch any number of things, all which most doctors will prescribe more antibiotics and then the cycle begins.  If you must take them, then you will need to replenish the bacteria with probiotics and/or fermented foods containing these microbes (kombucha, kefir, yogurt, kimchee, sauerkraut and other naturally fermented "live culture" foods.
 
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I only eat whole grains, but you said to keep grains at a minimum.

I said "refined starches and grains", whole grains are highly recommended and healthy for you, especially if you're soaking them first.
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« Reply #50 on: July 21, 2006, 08:47:27 AM »
Do I need to start the probiotics before I take the antibiotic and about how long should I take them? 
Since it makes you more suseptible to stomach virus,  this could be why I get it sooo easily!!!  I have just started taking Supermom, just ordered yeast assassin and planning to start taking it ASAP with tummy tune-up. 

I thought that about the grains.  I guess I read what you wrote last wrong.  What do you meen by "soaking it first"? 

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« Reply #51 on: July 21, 2006, 11:45:50 AM »
  What do you meen by "soaking it first"? 

Do a search on "soaking" and "grains" from the "Home Page".  There are a lot of posts on the subject - how and why and when.

Basically, you're supposed to soak your grains (berries) before you grind them into flour to remove phytates (plant estrogens) to make them better for you.  I don't do this myself, so I don't have much to offer in the way of experience.  I buy my flour already ground.
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« Reply #52 on: July 21, 2006, 04:20:36 PM »
  What do you meen by "soaking it first"? 

Do a search on "soaking" and "grains" from the "Home Page".  There are a lot of posts on the subject - how and why and when.

Basically, you're supposed to soak your grains (berries) before you grind them into flour to remove phytates (plant estrogens) to make them better for you.  I don't do this myself, so I don't have much to offer in the way of experience.  I buy my flour already ground.


Thanks I will.  Right now I buy my flour already ground too.  I haven't gone so far as to buy a mill. 

You answered that part but not the other.  Do you know about the probiotics?  Whether I should take them before I have my dental visits?  If not that is OK.  Does anyone else know?

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« Reply #53 on: July 21, 2006, 04:44:14 PM »
You answered that part but not the other.  Do you know about the probiotics?  Whether I should take them before I have my dental visits?  If not that is OK.  Does anyone else know?

I don't really know for sure, but I'd say it would be a waste of supplements to take them before, because the antibiotics would most surely kill them.
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« Reply #54 on: August 10, 2006, 02:57:21 PM »
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Candida Yeast/Fungal overgrowth has been found to be a common occurrence in many disorders and is also present in millions of other people who cannot figure out what is wrong with them, or what to do about it.

Symptoms vary from person to person and fluctuate in severity, or may come and go. Most symptoms are invisible, which makes it difficult for others to understand the vast array of debilitating symptoms with which we contend.

The most common are:

    * an incapacitating fatigue
    * problems with concentration and short-term memory
    * flu-like symptoms such as pain in the joints and muscle
    * extreme tightness in the shoulders and neck
    * hyper-acidity/acid reflux
    * brown colored mucus in the back of the throat
    * blisters in the mouth/tongue/throat
    * either white or "blood blisters"
    * unrefreshing sleep
    * sore throat
    * white coated tongue
    * dark circles under the eyes
    * an aversion to being touched or jumping
    * "crawling" skin
    * chronic sinus problems and headaches including migraines
    * chronic dental problems

Visual disturbances may include blurring, sensitivity to light and eye pain.

Psychological problems may include:

    * depression
    * irritability
    * anxiety
    * panic attacks
    * recurring obsessive thoughts
    * personality changes and mood swings (irrational rage or crying for no reason - fear of talking to people, any kind of confrontation, isolation)
    * paranoia

More of the physical symptoms may include:

    * chills and night sweats
    * shortness of breath
    * dizziness and balance problems
    * sensitivity to heat and/or cold
    * alcohol intolerance
    * gluten and/or casein intolerance
    * irregular heartbeat
    * irritable bowel
    * constipation and/or diarrhea
    * painful gas and abdominal bloating
    * low-grade fever or low body temperature
    * numbness, tingling and/or burning sensations in the face or extremities
    * dryness of the mouth and eyes
    * difficulty swallowing
    * projectile vomiting

Also:

    * menstrual problems including PMS and endometriosis
    * recurrent yeast infections
    * recurrent ear infections
    * rashes and dry, flaking skin
    * eczema
    * dermatitis
    * acne
    * skin discoloration and/or blotchiness
    * dandruff
    * jock and rectal itching
    * chronic athlete's foot
    * chronic toenail and fingernail fungus
    * ringing in the ears (tinnitus)
    * allergies and sensitivities to noise/sound, foods, odors, chemicals
    * anemia
    * weight changes without changes in diet
    * light-headedness
    * feeling in a fog
    * fainting
    * muscle twitching and muscle weakness
    * restless leg syndrome
    * low sex drive and/or numbness in the genital area

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« Reply #55 on: August 11, 2006, 11:24:47 AM »
Yeehaw.  I must be a lump of yeast.  I cannot tell you all how much I appreciate eveything I've read here.  I have type I diabetes which I am trying hard to get under perfect control so I can have kids (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D).  But if I take the YA and TT and my blood sugar goes high on occassion (sometimes my period or something will give me an unexpected high bs) will that ruin the whole effect I'm trying to acheive?

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« Reply #56 on: August 11, 2006, 05:01:37 PM »
Yeehaw.  I must be a lump of yeast.  I cannot tell you all how much I appreciate eveything I've read here.  I have type I diabetes which I am trying hard to get under perfect control so I can have kids (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D).  But if I take the YA and TT and my blood sugar goes high on occassion (sometimes my period or something will give me an unexpected high bs) will that ruin the whole effect I'm trying to acheive?

I just posted an article on the Diabetes Type 1 thread.  This article backs up what I said before about it being an autoimmune disease.  There is a lot of information in this article on how to control and even reverse type 1 Diabetes in some people.  Worth a read.  Most of the things recommended are the same dietary changes that are recommended in the Leaky Gut thread and should correspond with treating for candida as well.
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« Reply #57 on: August 13, 2006, 05:39:09 AM »
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To kill stubborn candidiasis and fungal infections other than prescription drugs like Diflucan, it is Oregamax (Northern Spice and Herb Co). Several persons with CFIDS or candidiasis have told this is the most effective product they have found for Candida Albicans. Some persons have taken as much as 3 capsules three times a day. It is important to supplement with Biotin to keep the yeast in its single cell state where it is noninvasive. Japanese researchers have found that oregano also kills the HIV virus. The wild crafted oregano is the most potent product on the market. One lady told me she used oil of oregano (Northern Spice) in enema water and had excellent results. However, unless you turn on those Th1 cytokines, the candida will be back with the first sweet roll you eat.

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« Reply #58 on: August 13, 2006, 03:17:13 PM »
Hi there...new here, but not really...been lurking a little for a couple of weeks.  Here's my story:  Almost two months ago I realized that my newborn (Then 2 months old, now almost 4 months old) had thrush after researching why I was having pain while breastfeeding (he is my third son). I went to dr. had nystatin prescribed for him (didn't work) and started the candida diet, and supplementing with some things that my lactation consultant recommended:  acidophilus, echinacea, garlic.  The reason I started to treat myself is because the more research I did, the more I realized that candida has been a problem contributing to a majority of my health complaints over the past 10 years or so -- everything from infertility, hypothyroidism, depression, fatigue, acne, digestive issues, the list goes on.  I am so mad that no one has ever suggested this to me before -- especially given my past use of antibiotics (I've had two surgeries to have gallbladder removed and two rounds of antibiotics during two of my pregnancies) and birth control pills (NEVER AGAIN!) and high stress levels.  NO ONE could ever give me a reason for my symptoms -- they just wanted to treat each one individually....

Anyhow, It has been 6 weeks and I have been pretty strict with the diet:  no sugar, flour, dairy, gluten (I did have oatmeal for awhile until I realized how it was a gluten grain), limited consumption of fruit, and have had moderate consumption of corn, which I now realize that I  probably need to eliminate completely.  I've "cheated" a little due to family gatherings that had little to offer someone "like me" and broke down and had ice cream once after a really bad day.  So far I've lost 18 pounds, and feel terrible:  headaches, fatigue, acne, itching....sometimes I think I feel worse than I did before.  I know that this will tend to happen with die off, detox, etc, but for how long?  AND NOW I am so paranoid about what this may be doing to my poor dear son who is really innocent in this whole thing.  The whole reason he had thrush in the first place was because of me, now he has little bumps all over his body, diarrhea, what seems to be a cold (coughing, runny nose, sneezing, congestion) and the thrush still hasn't gone away.  I want to get myself healthy, but what price is my son paying?  AM I dumping toxins into my milk that he is getting?  Is he going through his own detox of sorts -- could I be harming him more by cleansing my body of candida than not?  I'm so scared....I'm also worried about my other two boys (ages five and three) and whether or not they have candida issues as well.  My 5 year old is always tired, grumpy, moody and craves milk like no tomorrow.  My three year old always wants sugar (I don't give it to him anymore), he is underweight for his age (he was 10 lbs at birth), and has similar digestive issues as I do (irritable bowel, constipation, diarrhea, etc).  It freaks me out.  I have been so misinformed and now my kids may pay a price for my stupidity?  What can I do?  What's the best thing to do for myself while keeping all my kids (but especially my infant's) needs and health in mind.  I thought changing my diet would be a good thing, but now I"m not so sure.  I just want to be healthy and I want my kids to be healthy -- the last thing I want to do is contiribute to their unhealthiness.  I don't know...I know I'm rambling, but I don't have much time (my family needs me) and I'm trying to get as much info out as I can as fast as I can.  Can anyone help?  Can anyone steer me in the right direction? Is there some piece of the puzzle I'm missing (there's so much info out there and everything seems to contradict everything else).  Are there other things I should be taking, things I am doing, that I shouldn't be doing (esp. now while breastfeeding -- which I intend to to for at least 9 more months).  AAAAAHHHH!  I'm just so sad, so overwhelmed, and so scared.  Any thoughts are greatly appreciated.  I have a ton more questions, but need to go for now.  Where would I post a question about the supermom tabs?  I'd like to know more about that.... THANKS for listening.  God bless you all in your journey to health and wellness.  I KNOW that HE intends something better...I'm just so sorry that I didn't listen sooner.

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« Reply #59 on: August 13, 2006, 03:27:01 PM »
I dunno but i have read and told by a health store lady NOT to do a candida cleanse while nursing. Toxins are coming out everywhere-even your breastmilk. Not an expert but i would say to just try to cut back and maybe try the water clease while cutting out little by little. All right you experts let's hear it!! ;)