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Remedies & Therapies => Cleansing & the GI Tract => Candida & Leaky Gut => : healthnut June 17, 2006, 03:49:09 PM

: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: healthnut June 17, 2006, 03:49:09 PM
I know there is a post on here somewhere that tells what foods one can eat while taking the Yeast Assassin but I can't seem to find it. Could someone give me a heads-up?

Basically I am trying to find a list of foods that I can eat that are sugar free and yeast free. If anyone has any suggestions I would love to know. For some reason I started craving salsa and ate a large amount and I don't even like salsa; well, normally :D

Also I know that Rebekah posted the regimen that she put her sister (?) on to get rid of Yeast and I can't seem to find that either. I think it had kefir and yogurt and a couple other things.

Has anyone experienced a loss of brain function as a detox symptom?  :D
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: healthybratt June 17, 2006, 04:58:40 PM
Basically I am trying to find a list of foods that I can eat that are sugar free and yeast free. If anyone has any suggestions I would love to know. For some reason I started craving salsa and ate a large amount and I don't even like salsa; well, normally :D

The Yeast Connection Cookbook and Protein Power have good lists which might help you plan your menus better.

Here's a list from Protein Power.  If it has carbs, it has sugar in some form.  Protein Power recommends 25 grams of carbs or less per day to lose weight.  This book is not designed for fighting yeast, but it works almost the same.  If you can keep your sugars to 25 grams or lower, you'll be doing very well.  The recommended carb intake for daily maintenance (after desired weight loss is achieved) is 100 carbs, but personally I'd try to stick as close to 25 as I could manage.

Berrys

Berries are one of THE most important things you can eat. They are full of antioxidants and nutrients.

All berry counts given here are for 1/4 cup. They are effective carb counts, with the fiber already removed.

blackberries - 2.7g
blueberries - 4.1g
cranberries - 2.0g
raspberries - 1.5g
strawberries - 1.8g

Cheese Types
Note:  Stinky cheese is not recommended for Yeast Diets, but okay for weight loss.

Cheese is a delicious, nutritious food. It's full of calcium and can make just about any meal very tasty. It's a perfect snack, too! Here ares for various types of cheese. Unless otherwise noted, all amounts are for 2 Tbsp. That's maybe 3 slices of the type that go onto crackers (small squares).

All values are net carbs. There's no fiber in cheese ;)

American (one burger slice) - .3g
Blue - .4g
Cheddar - .2g
Cream - .8g
Feta - .8g
Fontina - .2g
Goat - .3g
Gruyere - .1g
Monterey Jack - .1g
Mozarella - .3g
Muenster - .2g
Parmesan - .3g
Swiss - .5g

Pasta, Grains and Rice


Most values are given for 1/2 cup of the food, unless noted. All carbs shown are effective carbs.

Bulgur Wheat - 12.8g
Cornmeal (1 Tbsp) - 10.6g
Couscous - 17.1g
Cream of Wheat - 14.3g
Flour (1 Tbsp) - 11.5g
Millet - 26.8g
Oatmeal - 10.6g
Pasta, egg noodles - 19.0g
Pasta, spinach - 15.9g
Pasta, whole wheat - 16.6g
Pasta, regular - 18.6g
Rice, brown - 20.6g
Rice, white - 21.9g
Rice, wild - 16.0g

Condiments

Whether it's garlic, pickles, ketchup or other "things" you add to your meals, here are the carb counts for many of your favorite condiments.

Most values here are for 1 tablespoon unless otherwise indicated. The carbs stated are effective carbs.

Capers: 0.1g
Dijon mustard: 0.5g
Pickle (1): 1.9g
Garlic (1): 0.9g
Ginger slide: 0.8g
Honey (1 tsp): 5.8g
Ketchup: 4.0g
Olives, black: 0.7g
Olives, green: 2.5g
Soy sauce: 0.9g
Vinegar, balsamic: 2.3g
Vinegar, cider: 0.9g
Vinegar, red wine: 0g
Vinegar, rice: 3.0g
Vinegar, white wine: 1.5g
Worcestershire sauce (1 tsp): 0.9g
Vinegar, sherry: 0.9g

Milk and Dairy

Many adults are allergic to milk products - your body naturally loses its ability to process milk as it ages. Many diets cut down your milk intake at the start to test for this.

If you've done a milk test before, it might be good to cut out dairy products for 2 weeks straight. See how you feel. You might notice a drop in bloating and other allergic reactions which you never had really noticed before!

All carb counts are given for effective carbs. Fiber has already been removed.

butter - 0g
egg (1) - 0.6g
half and half (2 Tbsp) - 1.0g
heavy cream (2 Tbsp) - 0.8g
mayonnaise (1 tsp) - 0.1g
milk (1 cup) - 11.4g
sour cream (2 Tbsp) - 1.2g
yogurt (1 cup) - 17.2g

In general, the heavier the cream, the better the carb count.
Cream Types and Descriptions

Are you confused about heavy cream, whipping cream, half and half, clotted cream and other types found in recipes? This easy to use chart explains them all.

Cream is a key component of many low carb recipes because the fat in cream gives foods a delicious flavor and texture. This chart shows the percentage fat, so if for example you have Double Cream and really need Heavy Cream, you know how much to dilute it.

Note that all of these values are averages - check out your particular brand of cream to find out the carbs per serving on it. Cream is in essence part of milk a cow puts out. When a farmer milks a cow, they let the liquid sit. The cream "rises to the top" as the cliche says, and is skimmed off. Depending on the fat content of that cream, it is given different names.

Higher fat creams tend to taste better, have a richer texture, and don't curdle as easily when used in cooking.

                 US fat     England fat  Carbs per cup
___________________________________________________________________________________________

Clotted Cream    --         55%
Double Cream     --         48%
Heavy Cream      36%        --            6g
Whipping Cream   30%        35%           7g
Whipped Cream    --         35%           7g
Single Cream /   18%        18%           8g
Light Cream
Half Cream /     12%        12%           8g

Vegetables

Vegetables are one of the most important things to eat in any low carb diet - be it Atkins, South Beach, the Zone, or other variations. Eat those vegetables!

The carbs listed are the effective carbs - the fiber counts have already been removed. When not marked, the servings are 1/2 cup.

Artichoke - 6.9g
Asparagus (6) - 2.4g
Beans, green - 2.9g
Broccoli - 1.7g
Brussels Sprouts - 7.6g
Cabbage - 1.1g
Carrot - 5.1g
Cauliflower - 1.5g
Celery - 0.8g
Corn - 14.1g
Cucumber - 1.8g
Eggplant - 2.0g
Lettuce - 0.5g
Mushroom - 1.0g
Onion - 7.5g
Peas - 6.5g
Peppers, Green - 3.4g
Peppers, Red - 3.3g
Potato - 14g
Pumpkin - 6.3g
Radish - 0.5g
Spinach - 0.2g
Squash, yellow - 1.4g
Tomato - 3.2g
Turnips - 2.3g
Zucchini - 3.3g

Onion Types

Here are carb counts for different types of onion, and suggestions for uses of each one.

Onions are actually types of lillies, and have been used in cooking for at least 7,000 years. They are one of our oldest food sources. Many societies felt onions brought strength and courage, and they were a favorite food of armies. Onions add a great flavor to recipes and are also antioxidants. Onions have potassium and vitamin C in them. Some studies even show that eating 1/2 onion each day can raise your HDL levels by 30%.

Serving is per cup.

Yes, 5g per serving might be high for induction. However, onions are VERY healthy and it's worth it to incorporate them into your diet plans.

Vidalia Onion
One of the most popular onions is a sweet variety first grown in Georgia. It was named after a city there that hosted a large Farmer's Market. Vidalias are the style used in "blooming onions" and are usually used in this manner or in onion rings. A whole vidalia is usually around 1 cup.
1/2 cup serving - 5g
Fiber - 1g
Net Carbs - 4g

Italian Red Onion
These colorful onions are often used in salads to add a lively color to them - either a ring or two laid on top, or diced red cubes are tossed over the top of the salad. Italian Reds can be sweet like a Vidalia or more mild. These are usually served raw in salads.
1/2 cup serving - 5g
Fiber - 1g
Net Carbs - 4g

Yellow Onion
The staple in many traditional recipes, yellow onions are cut into cubes and plunked along with meat dishes. They're used in soups and casseroles. They are usually not very flavorful but are quite inexpensive.
1/2 cup serving - 5g
Fiber - 1g
Net Carbs - 4g

Pearl Onion
Pearl onions are small, white onions that are often used in beef stews and other meat dishes. They have a mild flavor and are usually served whole, cooked in the sauce or juice of a dish.
1/2 cup serving - 5g
Fiber - 1g
Net Carbs - 4g

Green Onions
Also called scallions, it is the green "leaves" of this onion that are eaten. The bright green tops are used as decoration in soups, salads and vegetable dishes.
1/2 cup serving - 4g
Fiber - 1g
Net Carbs - 3g

Fruits

While fruits can be a special, sweet treat, you should be cautious about gorging on fruits while on a low carb diet. Those apple and orange treats are full of sugar!

Portions are 1/4 cup unless otherwise indicated. Carbs shown are effective carbs, the fiber was already removed.

apple (1) - 17.3g
applesauce - 6.2g
apricot (1) - 3.1g
banana (1) - 21.2g
cantaloupe - 3.0g
cherries - 4.2g
coconut - 1.3g
cranberries - 2.0g
grapes - 6.7g
honeydew - 3.6g
mango - 6.3g
orange (1) - 12.9g
peach (1) - 8.9g
pear (1) - 21.1g
pineapple - 4.3g
plum (1) - 7.6g
raisins - 31.0g
watermelon - 2.6g

Note that fruit juices are usually chock full of sugars. Read the labels carefully, but it's much better to drink water than to drink any fruit juices.

Fruit Juice

Fruit juices are in general a sugar-rich product. The manufaturers take the fiber rich fruit, leave behind all the fiber, and all you get are the fruit sugars and colors. In fact, the carb counts on many fruit juices are similar to that of regular Coke, which has 30g carbs per 8oz glass!

These counts are all net carbs. All are 8oz servings.

apple juice, unsweetened - 29g
cranberry juice - 36g
grape juice - 19g
grapefruit juice - 11g
lemon juice - 20g
lime juice - 23.5g
orange juice - 26g
pineapple juice - 34g
tomato juice - 5g

Nuts and Seeds

Nuts and Seeds are both good and bad for dieters. They are intense little packets of protein, but some are quite rich in carbs as well. Choose wisely!

All counts are given for 2 Tbsp of nuts, and are effective carb counts. The fiber values have been removed already. The best way to eat nuts is to pour out the portion into a serving dish and put the rest away. That way you feel full with what you have, without being lured by the rest of the container.

Almonds - 1.4g
Chestnuts - 24.2g
Coconut - 0.7g
Hazelnuts - 1.2g
Macadamia Nuts - 0.9g
Peanut Butter - 4.3g
Peanuts - 1.8g
Pecans - 0.6g
Pine Nuts - 1.7g
Pistachio Nuts - 3.1g
Pumpkin Seeds - 2.4g
Sunflower Seeds - 1.5g
Walnuts - 1.1g

Meat and Poultry

Meat consumption has always been important for women, to keep their iron levels up. The diet is perfect for meat lovers, since most meat is zero carb! Servings are 6oz.

Meats
Bacon - .1g
Calf Liver - 10.4g
Chicken - 0g
Cornish Game Hen - 0g
Duck - 0g
Goose - 0g
Keilbasa - .8g
Pork - 0g
Sausage - 2g
Steak - 0g
Turkey - 0g
Veal Steak - 0g

Deli Slices
Bologna - .7g
Ham - 1.5g
Pastrami - 2.6g
Roast Beef - 2.3g
Salami - 2.4g

Being on an or low carb diet is not a license to eat bacon every day and hotdogs every night. You still need to eat healthily! Most low carb diets recommend only one serving of bacon a week, for salt and other reasons. Most healthy diets recommend avoiding hotdogs because of the nitrate level in them - excessive nitrates are linked to diabetes and other serious diseases.
Seafood If you're into seafood, here's a to help you determine what seafood items will work well on your low carb or diet. In general, it is completely carb free! Just get the fish grilled, not breaded. All servings are 6oz in size.

Fish
Anchovies in Oil: 0g
Bluefish: 0g
Catfish: 0g
Cod: 0g
Halibut: 0g
Mackerel: 0g
Mahi mahi: 0g
Salmon: 0g
Scrod: 0g
Snapper: 0g
Trout: 0g
Tuna: 0g

Shellfish
Clams: 8.7g
Crab: 0g
Lobster: 2.2g
Oysters: 12.5g
Scallops: 3.9g
Shrimp: 0g



Here's a list from The Yeast Connection Website to give you some more ideas.

Foods You Can Eat Freely

Low –carbohydrate vegetables. These vegetables
contain lots of fiber and wonderful essential nutrients. They are relatively low in
carbohydrates and calories. You can eat them fresh or frozen, cooked or raw.
ß Asparagus
ß Beet greens
ß Bell peppers
ß Broccoli
ß Brussels sprouts
ß Collard greens
ß Daikon
ß Dandelion
ß Eggplant
ß Cabbage
ß Carrots
ß Cauliflower
ß Kale
ß Kohlrabi
ß Leeks
ß Lettuce (all varieties)
ß Mustard greens
ß Okra
ß Onions
ß Parsley
ß Parsnips
ß Celery
ß Endive
ß Garlic
ß Radishes
ß Rutabaga
ß Shallots
ß Snow peas
ß Soybeans
ß Spinach
ß String beans
ß Swiss chard
ß Tomatoes, fresh
ß Turnips

Meat, Seafood, Eggs and Other Food
ß Beef, lean cuts
ß Chicken
ß Cod
ß Lamb
ß Mackerel
ß Other fresh or frozen fish
ß Pork, lean cuts
ß Salmon
ß Shellfish: shrimp, lobster, crab
ß Tofu
ß Tuna
ß Turkey
ß Veal
ß Wild game

Nuts, Seeds and Oils (unprocessed)
ß Almonds
ß Brazil nuts
ß Cashews
ß Filberts
ß Flaxseeds
ß Pecans
ß Pumpkin Seeds
ß Sardines
ß Butter (in moderation)
ß Oils, cold-pressed and unrefined:

Corn, Olive, Safflower, Soy, Sunflower, WalnutNote:Avoid hydrogenated fats & soy.

Foods You Can Eat Cautiously

High-Carbohydrate Vegetables
ß Artichoke
ß Avocado
ß Beans, peas and other legumes
ß Celery root (celeriac)
ß Fennel
ß Beets
ß Boniata (white sweet potato)
ß Breadfruit
ß Winter, acorn or butternut squash

Dairy Products - Eat these sparingly since many people have food sensitivities
to dairy products. If your symptoms persist, eliminate them completely.
Note:  Dairy Products also contain lactose (milk sugar)

ß Cream Cheese
ß Hard Cheeses
ß Yogurt

Whole Grains
Note:  Grains contain Gluten which can also feed yeast.  Gluten is also a common allergen.

ß Barley
ß Corn
ß Kamut
ß Millet
ß Oats
ß Brown Rice
ß Spelt
ß Teff
ß Wheat

Grain Alternatives
ß Amaranth
ß Buckwheat
ß Quinoa

Breads, Biscuits and Muffins – All breads, biscuits and muffins should be
made with baking powder or baking soda as a leavening agent.

Foods You Must Avoid Completely

Sugar and foods containing sugar. Avoid sugar and other quick-acting
carbohydrates, including sucrose, fructose, maltose, lactose, glycogen, glucose,
mannitol, sorbitol, galactose, monosaccharides and polysaccharides. Also avoid honey,
molasses, maple sugar, date sugar and turbinado sugar.

Packaged and processed foods. Canned, bottled, boxed and other packaged and
processed foods usually contain refined sugar products and other hidden ingredients.
You’ll not only need to avoid these sugar-containing foods in the early weeks of
your diet, but you’ll probably need to avoid them indefinitely.

Avoid yeast-containing foods for the first 10 days of your diet. Here’s a list of foods
that contain yeasts or molds:

ß Breads, pastries and other raised-bakery goods.
ß Cheeses: All cheeses. Moldy cheeses, such as Roquefort, are the worst.
ß Condiments, sauces and vinegar-containing foods: Mustard, barbecue, chili,
shrimp and soy sauces; pickles, pickled vegetables, relishes, green olives,
sauerkraut, horseradish, mincemeat and tamari. Vinegar and all kinds of
vinegar-containing foods, such as mayonnaise and salad dressing. (Freshly
squeezed lemon juice may be used as a substitute for vinegar in salad dressings
prepared with unprocessed vegetable oil.)
ß Malt products: Malted milk drinks, cereals and candy. (Malt is a sprouted grain
that is kiln-dried and used in the preparation of man processed foods and
beverages.)
ß Processed and smoked meats: Pickled and smoked meats and fish, including
bacon, ham, sausages, hot dogs, corned beef, pastrami and pickled tongue.
ß Edible fungi: All types of mushrooms, morels and truffles.
ß Melons: Watermelon, honeydew and, especially, cantaloupe.
ß Dried and candied fruits: Raisons, apricots, dates, prunes, figs and pineapple.
ß Leftovers: Molds grow in leftover food unless it’s properly refrigerated.  Freezing is better.
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: healthnut June 18, 2006, 09:21:40 PM
Thank you HealthyBratt!!!  :-* I just might head to the library tomorrow to pick up the The Yeast Connection Cookbook. It sounds like it would really help. :D
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: ~esposita~ August 14, 2006, 02:09:13 AM
HB - You're da bomb!   ;D 8) :D :-*

Thanks for all the info you find and share with us!!!
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: 4myhoonie October 22, 2006, 05:11:36 AM
hi all, i'm a little confused about the whole grains section.......they are listed under foods to eat freely, but also say it can feed yeast. 

has anyone found a bread recipe, or maybe tried the delsem bread, that wouldn't feed yeast?  how hard/time consuming are the tortillas to make?  just wondering.....
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Kati*did October 22, 2006, 05:29:47 AM
Hi Fivewittlekids...

I just skipped grains for the first week (that was my serious, kill-it-all week -- no fruit, lots of eggs and fish and veggies).    Then I added no-yeast grains like tortillas (but still in small amounts) -- they're really easy to make.  I think if you have yeast bread, the soaked/sprouted grain sourdough style is supposed to be best, but I've never done that, so I can't speak, there.  One of HB's lists mentions to eat grains cautiously.  It says the reccommended daily carb intake is 100 grams (w/ her preference being closer to 25 for getting rid of yeast).  So basically, you can eat them, but keep it low while you're trying to kill yeast.  HTH  :D
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: healthybratt October 22, 2006, 05:35:03 AM
I agree with Kati*did.  There's no reason a healthy person cannot have good whole grain breads and goodies, but there is gluten in bread and gluten is a food for yeast.  The sugars in bread also feed yeast even if they are natural...so if you're fighting yeast, skip that piece of bread with dinner until you get your gut back in order.  Once you've killed the candida and replaced it with healthy organisms, eat bread and be merry.  ;D
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: onmyway2natural January 24, 2007, 11:35:58 PM
Hi there,
Can BeeyoutifulGirl or HealthyBratt please tell me if Yeast Assassin has any other harmful effects to a nursing baby - other than the milk possibly drying up? My son is 15 mos and I am contemplating weaning anyway, plus my milk supply is seemingly unending, so I would probably still have milk! But I have horrible eczema and I don't think the Ultimate Defense and TT8 are going to do it by themselves, especially with chlorinated water. On a side note, my baby also has eczema and so I suspect yeast there too and wonder if it might not help if he gets any of the YA via my milk.

Another question to understand the way this works: Are the UD and TT going to "eat" the yeast, or just keep the gut healthy with mucosal lining stuff and/or helping to digest food without actually killing the yeast? So unless I take the YA, there would be yeast and the good bacteria still in there at the same time?

And again, it seems like the list of stuff I should take keeps growing -- some seems redundant -- anything I can cut out or should add in?
Yeast Assassin - kill big part of yeast
Ultimate Defense - replenish good bacteria and add soil for feeding it
Tummy Tuneup 8 - more good bacteria
Milk Thistle - for liver during detox
Lemon water - liver cleansing during detox
Goldenseal tea - anti-fungal
Grapefruit Seed Extract - drops in water to fight yeast
Garlic - immune support? anti fungal?
omega3,6,9 supplement
Spirulina - whole food, detox
and CUT sugars
oh and if possible get a chlorine filter and replace my amalgam fillings!

Thank you for all your time on here helping us yeasty people!
Amy
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: healthybratt January 25, 2007, 08:34:55 AM
Hi there,
Can BeeyoutifulGirl or HealthyBratt please tell me if Yeast Assassin has any other harmful effects to a nursing baby - other than the milk possibly drying up?

Here is a conversation I had with BeeyoutifulGirl awhile back in answer to this question.

: healthybratt
: BeeyoutifulGirl
Her email did not state how old the child was, and I'm assuming he is old enough/big enough to swallow a capsule? Is she nursing?

I guess he's 7 years old.  So you're saying that's okay?  How young is too young?  Why can't nursing babies have it?  All nursing babies?  1yo, 2yo, 3??  I'd like to know for future posters. 

Thanks.

~hb

Keep out of reach of children. Do not use if pregnant or nursing. Discontinue if unusual symptoms occur.

CONTRAINDICATIONS: None. Some individuals may develop a sluggish feeling as the toxins are being expelled from their body. If this happens, just decrease the dosage. This feeling should subside as your system is cleansed.

I know that for pregnant women, the reason stated is that all essential oils are potentially dangerous as they can stimulate contractions and therefore cause a premature birth.

I can't find anything that says why nursing mothers should not take it. Half of the internet references say "No known contraindications."  The other half say "See your doctor before taking if you are pregnant or nursing."

I found NO references to Black Walnut Hull or Wormwood being dangerous for children, and a couple places where it is used frequently in 3rd world countries to control parasites. However, I did see "keep out of reach of children" on tincture bottles containing a parasitic blend.

So... We (Beeyoutiful, Welltellme) are not doctors and cannot give medical advice that is absolute. We can only give opinions... If it was my kid - and they had yeast or parasites, I'd give them YA according to weight. We did tell a lady in a 3rd world country that she could sprinkle it on pizza for her kids to eat, to kill parasites.

Capsules are dangerous for kids that cannot swallow capsules.

That's about as definite as I can get...

Rebekah

I hope this helps.
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Amey February 19, 2007, 05:21:20 AM
Anyone on a yeast diet tried coconut flour muffins for fiber? I'm trying to "get things moving" and did some research on coconut flour. It is very high in fiber, so the carbs in it are not absorbed by your body, they go right through, from top to bottom.  :P  It's kind of new on the health food scene, so I haven't found much info on it (there's some, but not a lot). Personally, it looks to me like it would be ok to use on a candida-type diet (even beneficial!), you just can't add any sugar, of course. I thought it might be good to absorb and remove all the dead yucky yeast fungus toxic junk. I have also already been on the diet for over two weeks. I don't know if I'd try this right at first.

It seems you need to use a lot of eggs with coconut flour since it has no gluten. It needs something to bind it all together. You also use coconut oil, salt and baking soda/powder in some combination. I don't have a good recipe yet, but we'll see how it goes. I have to finish off some muffins that flopped, first (not enough eggs, too crumbly).  ;)

What do you think? Does this sound right?
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Kati*did February 19, 2007, 05:39:20 AM
Anyone on a yeast diet tried coconut flour muffins for fiber? I'm trying to "get things moving" and did some research on coconut flour. It is very high in fiber, so the carbs in it are not absorbed by your body, they go right through, from top to bottom.

I think HealthyInOhio has used coconut flour.  She has a post here about using it in bread:

http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,5215.msg53876.html#msg53876

Also, I was looking into this because I want to start using coconut flour and found that this website had some ideas and recipes:

http://www.simplycoconut.com/coconut_flour_recipes.htm



: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Amey February 19, 2007, 09:42:07 AM
Yes, that's one of the pages I found (simplycoconut.com). Have you tried any of those recipes? I would have to adapt the recipes for anti-candida (no sugar, yeast or other flours). I guess it's different if you are using ALL coconut flour with no other flour in there. You need a lot of eggs. It sounds like HealthyInOhio still used mostly regular flour in her bread. What I tried used 1/2 coconut flour and 1/2 almond meal. But it didn't work out. That was just my first try, though. Maybe later this week I'll try again.
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Kati*did February 19, 2007, 09:58:24 AM
I haven't tried anything yet -- I'm still ordering the coconut flour (they don't have it at our local health food store).   I was thinking about the sugar/honey in all those recipes, too.  Maybe you could try using stevia for sweetener.  Let me know if you come up with something that works!
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Amey February 25, 2007, 02:31:27 PM
Just tried the "Honey Muffins" at http://www.simplycoconut.com/coconut_flour_recipes.htm (http://www.simplycoconut.com/coconut_flour_recipes.htm), except I substituted stevia for the honey (used less than a straight sub.), and coconut oil for the butter. It turned out tasting a lot like custard because of all the eggs. Which isn't bad, unless you want a muffin to eat your eggs with in the morning for breakfast, in which case it is too much egg. Bleh.  :P The problem is, eggs are the best "binder" to use (IMO). I don't really know that I want to change that. Maybe just decrease the eggs and live with it being extra grainy and crumbly?
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Kati*did February 25, 2007, 02:35:08 PM
Just tried the "Honey Muffins" at http://www.simplycoconut.com/coconut_flour_recipes.htm (http://www.simplycoconut.com/coconut_flour_recipes.htm), except I substituted stevia for the honey (used less than a straight sub.), and coconut oil for the butter. It turned out tasting a lot like custard because of all the eggs.

Was the texture like a regular muffin?  Thanks for posting your experience with the coconut flour!
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: healthyinOhio February 25, 2007, 03:50:21 PM
Real nice, Katie!!  Put a paczki pic under the Foods for the Yeast Assasin!  :D
I have never had one!  Heard they are better than doughnuts. 
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Amey February 25, 2007, 04:02:07 PM

Was the texture like a regular muffin?  Thanks for posting your experience with the coconut flour!

It is slightly on the spongy, airy side, but not too different from regular muffins. Not dense at all. The main thing I notice about them is the custard flavor. You can use different things to flavor them, though. Nuts, various extracts. I would have used more stevia, but the aftertaste of that stuff bugs me. I don't know how it would do with spices like cinnamon, nutmeg, etc. I put dried rosemary on top (as I ate them), and that was good.

I'm thinking it's probably a personal taste thing - do you want them to be more grainy or more egg-y. It's definitely a nice break in the diet after having only vegetables, eggs, and meat for a month.  :)
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Amey February 28, 2007, 03:25:17 PM
Coconut flour muffin success! This was my third try. The first batch: too crumbly. The second batch: too eggy (but still pretty good). The third batch: I really like. Here's what I mixed together.

4 eggs
5 tbsp. coconut oil, melted 
4 tbsp. coconut milk
250 mg stevia (10 little scoops in the bottle I have)
1/2 tsp. salt
3/4 tsp. vanilla
a little more than 1/2 c. total - coconut flour and almond meal combined (mostly coconut flour)
1/2 tsp. baking powder
I also added some cinnamon and nutmeg (didn't measure)

I mixed this up and poured it into greased muffin cups and sprinkled unsweetened shredded coconut on top. Bake at 400 degrees for 15-20 minutes. Makes 9 muffins.

The texture turned out pretty good (not grainy, not too eggy), and the only thing I dislike about the flavor is that slight aftertaste from the stevia.  I guess that's a small price to pay for a little bit of sweetness while on this stupid diet. I miss honey!  ;D ;D ;D
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Kati*did March 01, 2007, 03:45:22 AM
Coconut flour muffin success! This was my third try. The first batch: too crumbly. The second batch: too eggy (but still pretty good). The third batch: I really like.
Thanks so much for experimenting and posting!  I'm going to give it a try. 

Real nice, Katie!!  Put a paczki pic under the Foods for the Yeast Assasin!  I have never had one!  Heard they are better than doughnuts.
I've never had one, either.  I never even heard of them till we moved to MI.  I got some for dh just to be "Polish".   ;)  He ate the stuff in the middle and tossed the rest!  He doesn't really like them.  So much for trying to be Polish.   ::)
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Bek March 13, 2007, 03:16:06 PM
So would corn bread be reasonable for starting out on this diet? I know corn in and of itself is a no no  ;), but corn bread without the wheat flour mixed in???  ???
Bek
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: healthybratt March 13, 2007, 06:21:23 PM
So would corn bread be reasonable for starting out on this diet? I know corn in and of itself is a no no  ;), but corn bread without the wheat flour mixed in???  ???
Bek
Not likely, corn has lots of natural sugar in it.  ;D  I'm not sure of the carb count, but I'd bet it's higher than regular bread. 
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: Bek March 14, 2007, 02:23:34 AM
Thanks HB!
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Marisa April 17, 2007, 04:25:00 PM
Hi, I was wondering if someone could post a sample days menu when eating to rid of candida. I have read all of the foods lists and am trying to figure out how to plan it out. I'm going to order yeast assn and tummy tune up this weekend.But I want to get a head start. In a serious case, how long would be recomended to do this 6 weeks?
I had a rash under my arm for 1 year that flared up when I ate wheat, went around in circles w/ dr. and am certain that it's from candida.
Thanks
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: healthyinOhio April 17, 2007, 04:36:55 PM

I had a rash under my arm for 1 year that flared up when I ate wheat, went around in circles w/ dr. and am certain that it's from candida.


Are you allergic to wheat, perhaps?
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: Marisa April 17, 2007, 05:00:24 PM
I think so, but after reading all of the symptoms of candida I think it's the catylist. I am also chronically constipated, insulin resistant,hi issues endo.
I think I must have a build up of toxins. I was into bodybuilding 3 years ago and took steroids for 3 months and ephedra for 1&1/2 years and upon stopping this lifestyle,the health problems started. My diet is clean and unprocessed as I stick to a bodybuilding type of diet still.
I had a question, I want to get rid of the constipation too, but I'm scared of enemas. Is there anything I can do?
thanks :)
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Mrs. Visionary April 26, 2007, 07:46:00 AM
I have never understood why one should not eat yeasted foods while fighting candida overgrowth. The yeast in bread is killed in the baking process and it is not the same yeast that colonizes the human body. Also, to my understanding, yeast feeds on sugars not on more yeast. Any insight on this?
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Kansas Girl April 26, 2007, 08:29:22 AM
I have never understood why one should not eat yeasted foods while fighting candida overgrowth. The yeast in bread is killed in the baking process and it is not the same yeast that colonizes the human body. Also, to my understanding, yeast feeds on sugars not on more yeast. Any insight on this?

I have wondered the same thing???  Any thoughts ladies??? -KG
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: lotsaboys April 26, 2007, 09:00:42 AM
I'm wondering too...
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: hodgy April 26, 2007, 09:32:43 AM
Not sure about this, but I think it pertains to the composition of the yeast.   It is similar enough in structure to aggravate the body, just like the candida variety and can cause the wide spread reaction that candida causes.   Much like your body reacts to something it's allergic to.
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Mrs. Visionary April 28, 2007, 05:58:17 AM
 

Now another pondering about foods that are OK as I work away at yeast.
I have no problem eliminating sugars from my diet but have been craving chocolate terribly. So, I'm thinking about sweetening some cocoa with stevia. There are quite a few posts about stevia and it's beneficial effects and lack of negative effects.
What I would like to know, though, has anyone used stevia during yeast cleansing and still had success in getting rid of the yeast?

Regarding my earlier question about eating yeasted foods.
Not sure about this, but I think it pertains to the composition of the yeast.   It is similar enough in structure to aggravate the body, just like the candida variety and can cause the wide spread reaction that candida causes.   Much like your body reacts to something it's allergic to.
Yes, that seems like a plausible explanation. Thank you.
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: healthybratt April 28, 2007, 08:46:15 AM
I have never understood why one should not eat yeasted foods while fighting candida overgrowth. The yeast in bread is killed in the baking process and it is not the same yeast that colonizes the human body. Also, to my understanding, yeast feeds on sugars not on more yeast. Any insight on this?
I agree.  I think this is a common misconception; however, if you're eating something with yeast, such as bread, there is the fact that it most likely contains sugar which WILL feed candida.
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: healthybratt April 28, 2007, 08:46:54 AM


Now another pondering about foods that are OK as I work away at yeast.
I have no problem eliminating sugars from my diet but have been craving chocolate terribly. So, I'm thinking about sweetening some cocoa with stevia. There are quite a few posts about stevia and it's beneficial effects and lack of negative effects.
What I would like to know, though, has anyone used stevia during yeast cleansing and still had success in getting rid of the yeast?

Regarding my earlier question about eating yeasted foods.
Not sure about this, but I think it pertains to the composition of the yeast.   It is similar enough in structure to aggravate the body, just like the candida variety and can cause the wide spread reaction that candida causes.   Much like your body reacts to something it's allergic to.
Yes, that seems like a plausible explanation. Thank you.
As far as I know, stevia does NOT feed yeast and should be fine to consume while fighting candida.
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: hodgy April 28, 2007, 09:53:56 AM
I use stevia often, and also follow a candida diet.  The stevia itself doesn't seem to aggravate the yeast, but as we know, anything we use in the diet too often can become a problem because the food allergies associated with leaky gut from candida.  It took me awhile to realize how these food allergies were presenting themselves(I mistook them for candida when it was just causing the symptoms).   Thick, slimey mucous, pain in joints etc., discharge.  Yet, as far as the usual allergy symptoms, runny nose,itching eyes etc. I didn't have any.  I thought for a bit it was the stevia until I started to rotate what I used it in(ex; instead of sweetening kefir, I would use it in soy milk) symptoms didn't occur, so it wasn't the stevia.  You must also be careful, I have found, how the stevia is blended.  i have no problems with Kal pure stevia, but some brands combine it with maltodextrin(big no-no), or corn vegetable glycerine(also causes symptoms). HTH
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Mrs. Visionary April 28, 2007, 01:10:57 PM
Thanks HB and Hodgy. That is very helpful. I think I will experiment a little with the stevia.
Talking about all this made me wonder about non-caloric sugars such as xylitol which is OK'd by dentists since it doesn't promote tooth decay.
On the bread topic: yes, breads in general have lots of carbs. I like to eat the flourless, sprouted grain breads that have a lower glycemic index. However, even with those there is still yeast as an ingredient which it looks like should be avoided during yeast elimination.
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: hodgy April 28, 2007, 02:40:21 PM
I too have yeast issues, and have found that the "clean eating" that body builder type athletes use is very helpful.  Except they seem to utilize splenda alot. (Bad for GI and immunity)  An example menu for myself for the course of one day would be eggs scrambled in walnut or avocado oil with veggies like spinach and onion tossed in, lunch would either be homemade veggie soup and plain yogurt(stevia to sweeten).  Then for dinner, grilled, baked or crock pot chicken, fish or some other fresh prepared protein,(you cannot find any packaged or prepared  meat w/o sugar, high fructose corn syrup, or dextrose) large spinach or dandelion greens salad with various veggies and herbs thrown in.  I use Annies vinegar-free green goddess dressing because it doesn't have any bad-for-yeast stuff in it.(very hard to find store bought dressing w/o vinegar or sugar in it.  Then for a snack, usually fresh nuts.  Yes, very hard and somewhat boring but you lose the taste for real sugar after awhile.  It is truly "eating to live" not "living to eat."   Oh yeah! I wouldn't be afraid of trying to do an enema.  I too was terrified and always skipped over that topic until I just couldn't ignore it any longer.  I would suggest maybe trying the coffee enema( a lot on info on the curezone sight).  I tried one and it was very relaxing and my gut and liver felt like it was working for a change.  It did seem to remove much of the yeast in my gut then was able to replenish with good flora. HTH
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Marisa April 30, 2007, 04:58:38 PM
Thank you for sharing! That helped a lot. I'm gonna try to find the vinegar free dressing. That made my day! And I'll go look on curezone.
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: twitterpated4hubby October 17, 2007, 04:29:21 PM
My dd (13) is begging me to buy her some TTU and YA because she has dandruff and thinks she must have candida. Im thinking i have it to because of other symptoms. I have copied this thread of things to eat and things to avoid and im gonna buy her some TTU and YA but how long should she use it and follow the diet? What else can she do. Also, i see that i cant take YA because of nursing my 11 month old but will TTU be enough for me to see a change in the Candida? Will it help my dandruff and constipation?
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: twitterpated4hubby October 17, 2007, 04:41:38 PM
I just want to say also that we don't have a lot of extra money so im feeling so hopeless on how to cure this. Its not that bad but i know we probably should try to get rid of it and it is a pain anyway. Im feeling overwhelmed by all the threads and stuff they say to do and buy. I just want an easy cheap answer. Anyone?? ???
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: freshisbest October 18, 2007, 02:16:59 AM
My alltime favorite is garlic. The boys will eat it by the spoonful ( chopped) like I do...I chase it with raw ginger when I have it. My little girl will take it via coconut oil...I slice or chop the garlic and let it steep in warm oil, then strain it. If she chases it with a glass of juice she's fine.
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: Roehrmomma October 18, 2007, 02:48:09 AM
I just want to say also that we don't have a lot of extra money so im feeling so hopeless on how to cure this. Its not that bad but i know we probably should try to get rid of it and it is a pain anyway. Im feeling overwhelmed by all the threads and stuff they say to do and buy. I just want an easy cheap answer. Anyone?? ???

Cutting out sweets will help a lot (less ground for the yeast to take) And can even save $$.  ;D
 

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I would do the water cure.IMO water can help cure everything.
 

Cut down on yeast breads and such should help a bit I would think.

I am not very knowledgeable here yet I believe this would help a bit.

Em
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: bizymum October 18, 2007, 05:43:09 AM
also adding onions, and if you have them: GSE, aloe juice, and CLO would help alot
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: healthybratt October 18, 2007, 07:07:15 AM
My dd (13) is begging me to buy her some TTU and YA because she has dandruff and thinks she must have candida. Im thinking i have it to because of other symptoms. I have copied this thread of things to eat and things to avoid and im gonna buy her some TTU and YA but how long should she use it and follow the diet? What else can she do. Also, i see that i cant take YA because of nursing my 11 month old but will TTU be enough for me to see a change in the Candida? Will it help my dandruff and constipation?

Candida / Yeast: Symptoms & Cures (http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,1400.0.html)
Fungal-Bacterial Infections (http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,3248.0.html)
Treating Children for Candida/Yeast (http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,3461.0.html)
Candida Cleanse Without Supplements (http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,1113.0.html)
Treating Candida/Yeast While Pregnant (http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,2592.0.html)
Natural Antifungals (http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,695.0.html)
Fighting Candida w/o Sugar [Carb] Restrictions (http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,1923.0.html)
Candida Albicans vs Other Yeasts: Are All Yeasts Created Equal (http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,3101.0.html)
Die-Off from Candida/Yeast: Causes, Effects, Risks & Reduction (http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,425.0.html)
Leaky Gut:  The Cause of it All? (http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,603.msg5890.html#msg5890)
I Think I Have Candida and/or Leaky Gut:  What Now? (http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,2698.msg24679.html#msg24679)
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: amy3js October 22, 2007, 08:26:50 PM
Can someone tell me if any of these foods are a no-no on a candida diet? Thanks!

rice, ketchup, Worchechestir (sorry I butchered that word  ::)) sauce, carrot, cauliflower, corn, peas, potato, pumpkin, beef jerky, amaranth, quinoa, black olives, margarine (dairy allergy. Trying to find SOMETHING tasty. its for my sis) And I think I read that chili was bad but that seemed weird to me, so why would that be?
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: freshisbest October 23, 2007, 03:14:05 AM
Off the top of my head things like ketchup and Worst. have sugar in them..so....NO ! Instead of margarine, use coconut oil. Its a delicious alternative. Use Amaranth and Quinoa with veggies.. I will roast a bunch of cut-up veggies in a 450 oven with salt and oil, then during the week throw them in pasta or grains. There are several threads on here about yeast, fighting it, what to avoid, etc. Read labels, keep it simple, try Stevia as a sweetener. I've been drinking Yerba Mate Tea...not only tasty and energizing but it seems to me I am LESS HUNGRY !!
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: twitterpated4hubby October 23, 2007, 06:02:31 AM
Can you have sprouted bread or home made wheat bread? My poor dd is so tired of eggs. She needs so variety but it seems there is hardly anything she can have. How about cheerios? They say whole grain on them. I would think they would be bad but she is so hungry and needs some carbs to fill her up.

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: boysmama October 23, 2007, 06:32:45 AM
Corn, potatoes, regular white rice and carrots are high(er) glycemic carbs and would best be avoided. However there are large variations in say the type of rice -wild, brown rice and I think basmati brown are all lower than refined white-, fresh, red potatoes are lower than white, and surprisingly, there is a listing on kenkey (a fermented corn staple from Africa) that shows an extremely low glycemic index. I wonder if all fermented grains and dairy  have lower GI values than even their unfermented whole grain counterparts?
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: boysmama October 23, 2007, 06:35:48 AM
Can you have sprouted bread or home made wheat bread? My poor dd is so tired of eggs. She needs so variety but it seems there is hardly anything she can have. How about cheerios? They say whole grain on them. I would think they would be bad but she is so hungry and needs some carbs to fill her up.


I am not sure if I would do bread (because of the no yeast aspect), but I would add something like soaked oatmeal, brown rice (really good fried w/ eggs  ;))
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: amy3js October 23, 2007, 07:12:48 AM
Thank you for the info.  :) I should mention she is also allergic to wheat and eggs, so would the amaranth and quinoa bother the wheat allergy? I don't know much about them, but I would love to learn to use them if they are not wheat? Once again, thanks! I am so glad for WTM right now, she is super stressed about all of this.
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: amy3js October 23, 2007, 10:44:23 AM
Bump  ;D

Also, is oatmeal ok or not? And cooked or just the oats?
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: crystal October 23, 2007, 01:02:42 PM
Bump  ;D

Also, is oatmeal ok or not? And cooked or just the oats?

IMO, I would not do oatmeal or any carbs for the first few weeks.  Then, add them back into your diet, slowly.  I am contemplating going full force on the anti-candida thing, also.  I have to get up the nerve to do it.  I can't go out and buy a bunch of special foods, either, which is a challenge.  I have to do it with pretty much what we have.  If I know that I only have to do it for a certain amount of time, I can do it.  So I will set a start and end date for the most crucial part of the process and then lessen the extremity of the cleanse. 

Ok, I more than answered your question.  I am just trying to talk to myself her, I guess. ;)

So, for those of you who have gone cold turkey, all or nothing, can you give me come creative ideas of how to make meat and veggies fun to eat? ???  I think I might already be bored with it and I haven't even started. ;D
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: amy3js October 23, 2007, 01:52:04 PM
Bump  ;D

Also, is oatmeal ok or not? And cooked or just the oats?

IMO, I would not do oatmeal or any carbs for the first few weeks.  Then, add them back into your diet, slowly.  I am contemplating going full force on the anti-candida thing, also.  I have to get up the nerve to do it.  I can't go out and buy a bunch of special foods, either, which is a challenge.  I have to do it with pretty much what we have.  If I know that I only have to do it for a certain amount of time, I can do it.  So I will set a start and end date for the most crucial part of the process and then lessen the extremity of the cleanse. 

Ok, I more than answered your question.  I am just trying to talk to myself her, I guess. ;)

So, for those of you who have gone cold turkey, all or nothing, can you give me come creative ideas of how to make meat and veggies fun to eat? ???  I think I might already be bored with it and I haven't even started. ;D

Thanks! I am actually doing all of this research for my sis and she just told me she is not doing any carbs for 30 days, so no on oatmeal! But after that, I think it will be a good choice for something to add back in.
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: skelliott2 October 23, 2007, 07:12:33 PM
Thank you for the info.  :) I should mention she is also allergic to wheat and eggs, so would the amaranth and quinoa bother the wheat allergy? I don't know much about them, but I would love to learn to use them if they are not wheat? Once again, thanks! I am so glad for WTM right now, she is super stressed about all of this.

Amaranth and quinoa are gluten free, and allowed on an anti-candida diet.  So are millet and buckwheat.  These are the only grains we used when we fought candida. 

Bump  ;D

Also, is oatmeal ok or not? And cooked or just the oats?

IMO, I would not do oatmeal or any carbs for the first few weeks.  Then, add them back into your diet, slowly.  I am contemplating going full force on the anti-candida thing, also.  I have to get up the nerve to do it.  I can't go out and buy a bunch of special foods, either, which is a challenge.  I have to do it with pretty much what we have.  If I know that I only have to do it for a certain amount of time, I can do it.  So I will set a start and end date for the most crucial part of the process and then lessen the extremity of the cleanse. 

Ok, I more than answered your question.  I am just trying to talk to myself her, I guess. ;)

So, for those of you who have gone cold turkey, all or nothing, can you give me come creative ideas of how to make meat and veggies fun to eat? ???  I think I might already be bored with it and I haven't even started. ;D

We made a lot of soups, salads and stir fries.  You'd be amazed how much variety you can get when you really think about it.  We threw out everything that wasn't allowed, so we wouldn't be tempted, and then just went with it.  You can  make flours by grinding the allowed grains, dredge veggies (like zuchini slices) in the flour, and fry in coconut oil.  We did a lot of root vegetable dishes using red potatoes, carrots, taro root, olive oil, and seasonings like sea salt, rosemary, etc.  You can have veggies with a simple dip, omelets with veggies like peppers and onion or salsa, meat and fish, lots of raw foods work as well.  We made crackers from sprouted buckwheat, or flax seeds, or nori with veggie nut stuffers on top.  Recipes in raw foods books have lots of great ideas for crackers that are allowed on a candida diet.  My favorite book is Rejuvenate your Life by Serene Allison.  Some of these crackers are good with guacamole and/or salsa.  Celery with almond butter is also good. 

It's hard to change habits, but there are lots of foods you can eat.  It just takes more time to cook, and a lot of thinking.  Have fun!
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: beppyjo October 25, 2007, 10:22:41 AM
Well, are y'all tired of me yet? Never mind, I don't think I want to know! ;)
I am not sure if this is the correct thread or not (HB please move me if I am ruining this thread).........
 I have been trying to do the no sugar (much harder than I thought it would be) and low carb. I was trying just to do eggs, meat, and veggies. My problem is that I am nursing a 5 mo old and I don't seem to have as much milk anymore. He now nurses for a long time on each side (he used to be real fast), doesn't go as long between feedings, and is up more in the night. If I add back some of the healthier carbs (and I am assuming that the Kettle potato chips I ate with my lunch :o do NOT qualify here ;)) will I still be able to beat this yeast? Because I am nursing I am a bit more limited on supplements so I know diet is extra important. I am also confused as to which of the carbs are really o.k. I have read so much that I have confused myself! :-[  Are potatoes ok?  Other than the chip form? ;) If I add whole grains like quinoa once a day? Or what about our GF biscuits? Thanks all!
B
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Sparkys9 October 25, 2007, 11:21:33 AM
Dh and I are doing the meat,veg,egg, and plain yogurt diet. He only eats spinach,romaine lettuce, and string beans. We are planning on 10 days at this restrictive level and then reintroduce non-yeast carbs slowly. I have thrush that doesn't want to clear up. Of course we are taking supplements, but I've been brushing my tongue with bs, rinsing, and the swishing with fresh lemon juice. This is helping clear it very well. I do still feel we need to do the diet and probiotics, just to give our bodies a little extra boost in fighting it. I'm just hoping we cam make it ALL 10 days (this is day 2).
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Sparkys9 October 25, 2007, 02:22:24 PM
Well, I checked my urine and I'm spilling ketones and I'm acidic :o. Translated Ive got ketoacidosis. This is where your body goes into starvation mode and starts using it's own tissue to fuel itself. So, I am going back on non-yeast whole grain breads and rice. A pregnant lady will probably want to be monitored (or monitor herself ;)) while making dietary changes to get yeast in check. I'm still going to keep up the supplements, but the diet is too restrictive for my caloric and energy needs. Hope this helps someone.Amy
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: 4myhoonie October 26, 2007, 03:58:59 PM
If I add whole grains like quinoa once a day? Or what about our GF biscuits? Thanks all!
B

i just found this above about these grains being ok to use while fighting candida:  (from Skelliot2 quote)

"Amaranth and quinoa are gluten free, and allowed on an anti-candida diet.  So are millet and buckwheat.  These are the only grains we used when we fought candida." 
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: skelliott2 October 26, 2007, 07:08:57 PM
Red potatoes are also allowed, but not russet.  For some reason, red potatoes are not as starchy.  We would slice these really thin, and bake with olive oil and sea salt until they were crispy.  Or, you can bake them, slice them open, pat on butter and rosemary, and rebake for about 15 minutes -- YUM!  Also, carrots are allowed.  You can serve these with stevia and cinnamon.  Stevia is a great sweetener that makes a lot of things taste better.  Makes it a little easier to give up sugar.  You can also put stevia and cinnamon into the millet.  It's somewhat like having oatmeal for breakfast. 

Gluten free biscuits would probably not work, since they're usually made from starchy flours, unless you can come up with a recipe from the four acceptable grains.  You can make pancakes with buckwheat, but they're a little strong tasting.  We did make them, though, since we were a little desperate.  :)

I got all of this information from the Body Ecology Diet by Donna Gates.  It's really helped a lot of people with yeast problems.  The other thing to remember, though, is you have to repopulate with the good bacteria.  We had kefir everyday, and tried to get in lots of cultured veggies.  These are an aquired taste, so we weren't as consistent with the cultured veggies as we should have been, but every little bit helps! 
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: amy3js October 26, 2007, 08:22:55 PM
Thanks for the info skelliott2.  :)
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: beppyjo October 27, 2007, 06:01:44 AM
Thanks for the info ladies! I have added back some carbs (red potatoes, etc...) and am delighted to report that baby is now sleeping better, going longer between feedings during the day, is happier, and is eating faster :D. Poor guy, didn't mean to make him hungry. :( I think that I am going to make a bunch of quinoa today, yum....... Will have to find the other things at the store.........  Thanks again for the advice!
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: HerbGirl29 November 05, 2007, 12:29:46 PM
Does anyone know of any herbs we should NOT have during a candida killing diet?
We are doing a very strict version for 13 days.  Just meat, eggs, kefir, & (most) green veggies.  I've done the diet before, this strict and not as strict, and did not purposely avoid any herbs but I'd like to know if I should worry about any; in particular, licorice and peppermint.  Thanks for any information. :D
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: faith November 05, 2007, 02:11:34 PM
hey anyone? Im nursing. having been on a diet eating lots of chicken beef salmon, lots of chicken ;D aand veggies including taters and some grains, no sugar, cheese,  milk and the like ,,, why does it seem like my baby who hsd excema a little before I startedthis a week ago, tiny spots of it, it seems to be getting worse and, all
i had for dinner was chicken and a little quinoi and her tiny little patches are a little RED!!!!
Help anyone!!

by the way Im doing this as a candida diet for the kids and I told the kids I would do it with them to suffer with them since they cant have any fun food!!
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: HerbGirl29 November 06, 2007, 05:49:22 AM
:) Bump for both questions. :)
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: cecac November 06, 2007, 06:16:47 AM
hey anyone? Im nursing. having been on a diet eating lots of chicken beef salmon, lots of chicken ;D aand veggies including taters and some grains, no sugar, cheese,  milk and the like ,,, why does it seem like my baby who hsd excema a little before I startedthis a week ago, tiny spots of it, it seems to be getting worse and, all
i had for dinner was chicken and a little quinoi and her tiny little patches are a little RED!!!!
Help anyone!!

by the way Im doing this as a candida diet for the kids and I told the kids I would do it with them to suffer with them since they cant have any fun food!!

I'm no candida overgrowth expert, matter of fact I'm beginning my first cleanse next week so.....but my two initial thoughts on your baby:
1.  That you are cleansing due to no sugar and lower, stricter carb intake.  Could toxins be coming through the breastmilk and causing a bit of a problem?  We are warned to be careful with cleansing during nursing.
or,
2.  Your baby could be cleansing a bit and so that is her way of throwing some stuff out along with you.

I'm more inclined toward #1, just because babies usually are very clean, KWIM?  So, perhaps yo need to slow the cleansing down?

I am probably way off, but there's some thoughts, anyway.  Maybe some candida experts and baby skin experts will get in here and really let you know.

Cara
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: boysmama November 07, 2007, 04:58:48 AM
Hey faith,
I'd agree that you might be thowing toxins in your breastmilk.
Another possibility is that your hormones might be changing and affecting her. One of my mom's babies born to her when she was older and stuggling with hormone imbalance had terrible skin troubles w/ every hormone shift. Not sure how old your baby is but could that be a possibility?
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: morningglory January 14, 2008, 04:59:36 PM
I found these really cool vegetable chips, and I wanted opinions on whether or not they'd be a candida-cleanse-friendly snack.  The vegetables are taro, yuca, sweet potato, ruby root, batata, parsnip, blue potsto, and beets.  The only other ingredients are sea salt and canola/safflower/sunflower oil.  There's no white potatoes in the mix.  Whatcha think?
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: blackbird January 14, 2008, 05:15:41 PM
I don't know the answer to your question, but those are sooooo yummy!  My fav. are the white with red spots,,I forget which veg. they are  wish they weren't almost $4 a bag!  Or that it didn't take so much work to make homemade chippies.
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: healthybratt January 14, 2008, 06:22:00 PM
I found these really cool vegetable chips, and I wanted opinions on whether or not they'd be a candida-cleanse-friendly snack.  The vegetables are taro, yuca, sweet potato, ruby root, batata, parsnip, blue potsto, and beets.  The only other ingredients are sea salt and canola/safflower/sunflower oil.  There's no white potatoes in the mix.  Whatcha think?
check the carbs per serving on the label. 
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: morningglory January 14, 2008, 07:00:40 PM
Well, it says 16 grams per serving, which is 1 oz., or 14 chips, or 1/8 of the bag.  The same as corn chips or potato chips.  So just in moderation, I guess?  They're not for me.  I thought they'd give my 2-year-old son some variety.  I'll probably just save them for a special treat.
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: healthybratt January 15, 2008, 04:42:33 AM
Well, it says 16 grams per serving, which is 1 oz., or 14 chips, or 1/8 of the bag.  The same as corn chips or potato chips.  So just in moderation, I guess?  They're not for me.  I thought they'd give my 2-year-old son some variety.  I'll probably just save them for a special treat.
Probably not a bad idea.  I've found no definitive yeast/carb counting plan, but I have done the Atkins/Protein diet in the past and I remember the effects being much the same as when I learned about yeast and fasted from sugar for that purpose, so I based my sugar intake on the principals of the Atkins/Protein Power diet which says, when you're dieting, you should keep your carb intake to 30 carbs or less per day.  It really worked well for me to try to stick to this level of sugar intake.
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: bethj82 January 16, 2008, 02:43:45 AM
These may have been mentioned, but I didn't see them.  Are the following foods okay on an anti-yeast diet?

tofu
Braggs
garbanzo beans

Thanks
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: healthybratt January 16, 2008, 07:19:10 AM
These may have been mentioned, but I didn't see them.  Are the following foods okay on an anti-yeast diet?

tofu
Braggs
garbanzo beans

Thanks
Personally, I don't see why they would be a problem unless they are high in sugars.
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: bethj82 January 16, 2008, 09:18:56 AM
These may have been mentioned, but I didn't see them.  Are the following foods okay on an anti-yeast diet?

tofu
Braggs
garbanzo beans

Thanks
Personally, I don't see why they would be a problem unless they are high in sugars.

Thanks!
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: blessedmama February 27, 2008, 07:13:20 AM
Is it OK to drink Kombucha while doing a Candida cleanse?  I am "guessing" it would be like drinking kefir  ??? but that is just guessing.  I sent dh off this morning with celery and peanut butter! Then just found out peanuts are a no-no.  What a process!  Thanks.  :)
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: blessedmama February 27, 2008, 08:55:27 AM
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: grocerygetter February 27, 2008, 09:28:26 AM
Is it OK to drink Kombucha while doing a Candida cleanse?  I am "guessing" it would be like drinking kefir  ??? but that is just guessing.  I sent dh off this morning with celery and peanut butter! Then just found out peanuts are a no-no.  What a process!  Thanks.  :)
I think it is ok to have Kombucha, I've read it helps fight yeast.
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: lotsaboys February 27, 2008, 10:41:45 AM
Is it OK to drink Kombucha while doing a Candida cleanse?  I am "guessing" it would be like drinking kefir  ??? but that is just guessing.  I sent dh off this morning with celery and peanut butter! Then just found out peanuts are a no-no.  What a process!  Thanks.  :)
I think it is ok to have Kombucha, I've read it helps fight yeast.

I would agree that its ok as long as you're sure it brewed long enough to be rid of the sugar, kwim?
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: ruhamah February 27, 2008, 10:56:47 AM
We will be starting an anti yeast diet on Monday and I am a bit discouraged toady! :( :( :( :( :(

I just found out that carrot were a no no and the anti yeast diet and I was planning on having carrot juice for breakfast two times a week and snacking on carrots in between.

How strict do you have to been on this diet in order to kill yeast?

We will be taking YA and TTU daily.

I am still on a tight food budget for the month KWIM!

We still are going to use up the whole wheat tortillas in the freezer during the month (I have to save on the budget somewhere) but only allowing one a day at 22g of carb each.

Is this ok????????

R
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: skelliott2 February 27, 2008, 02:55:24 PM
Carrots were allowed on my yeast diet!  I didn't drink the juice, though, too much sugar without enough fiber.  I would try to avoid the tortillas as long as possible.  The less carbs you eat, the sooner those yeasties will be gone, and then you can have it again.  Can you go without them for two weeks before using them do you think?  Hope it goes well!
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: BJ_BOBBI_JO February 27, 2008, 02:57:04 PM
I keep reading in places that peanuts are not good while on the anti-candida diet. Why arnt they good to eat?
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: morningglory February 27, 2008, 04:27:13 PM
I keep reading in places that peanuts are not good while on the anti-candida diet. Why arnt they good to eat?

They're a common allergen, and they also produce mucus, or so I've read.
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: healthybratt February 28, 2008, 06:48:20 AM
I keep reading in places that peanuts are not good while on the anti-candida diet. Why arnt they good to eat?
The reason that most candida experts say you shouldn't eat peanuts is that they believe that fungus and mold cross react.  This is the same reason they say not to eat cheese, vinegar, fermented foods, etc.  Peanuts are commonly stored in such a way, that they contain mold spores (which might also explain why they are a common allergen).

http://www.drlockie.com/profiles/diet_ymf.htm (http://www.drlockie.com/profiles/diet_ymf.htm)
http://allergyexpert.wordpress.com/category/mold/ (http://allergyexpert.wordpress.com/category/mold/)

I personally had no trouble with peanuts during my cleanse, but if you're having trouble, don't eat them.
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: blessedmama February 28, 2008, 07:00:14 AM
Is it OK to drink Kombucha while doing a Candida cleanse? 
I think it is ok to have Kombucha, I've read it helps fight yeast.

I would agree that its ok as long as you're sure it brewed long enough to be rid of the sugar, kwim?

Thank you ladies for your experience and knowledge!  I appreciate it!   ;D
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: naturalgirl February 28, 2008, 12:17:45 PM
What about Whole Spelt in a YF diet? My sister is alergic to wheat and substitutes with that...

Great question, Blessedmama! I've been wondering about this too. I wonder why? Hmm... off to see if I can answer my own question  ;D

 
Is it OK to drink Kombucha while doing a Candida cleanse?  I am "guessing" it would be like drinking kefir  ??? but that is just guessing.  I sent dh off this morning with celery and peanut butter! Then just found out peanuts are a no-no.  What a process!  Thanks.  :)
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: naturalgirl February 28, 2008, 12:29:57 PM
Found it! Here's the "Why" behind Kombucha as a positive thing for Candida...

http://www.kombu.de/candida.htm (http://www.kombu.de/candida.htm)

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: blessedmama March 01, 2008, 05:50:41 AM
I would be questionable about Spelt, I also have some as well as Kamut but I won't use them while cleansing, don't want to take the chance.  I would LOVE for someone to tell me otherwise but until I get the OK from some experienced Candida cleansers I won't try it.  I did read one comment out buckwheat and three other grains that could be used but can't find that post anymore.  We were wanting to make buckwheat waffles with butter.   :)

I loved the link on Kombucha Naturalgirl, I read it out loud to my 13 yr old dd who doesn't like Kombucha and is suffering from terrible die off.  Maybe just maybe I can get her to drink a big glass of it today.  Thank you for the link! 
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: 4myhoonie March 01, 2008, 06:47:57 AM
I keep reading in places that peanuts are not good while on the anti-candida diet. Why arnt they good to eat?
The reason that most candida experts say you shouldn't eat peanuts is that they believe that fungus and mold cross react.  This is the same reason they say not to eat cheese, vinegar, fermented foods, etc.  Peanuts are commonly stored in such a way, that they contain mold spores (which might also explain why they are a common allergen).

http://www.drlockie.com/profiles/diet_ymf.htm (http://www.drlockie.com/profiles/diet_ymf.htm)
http://allergyexpert.wordpress.com/category/mold/ (http://allergyexpert.wordpress.com/category/mold/)

I personally had no trouble with peanuts during my cleanse, but if you're having trouble, don't eat them.

so in the same way a person could use a very small amount of red wine vinegar and watch for reaction?  my recipe uses 3 T. and 3/4 c. oil.  it lasts us a couple weeks.  a week if we use it daily.  so for one person on a salad it wouldn't be much.  also, there are minute amounts of vinegar in the stir fry sauces we use, not sure about that.

on a side note, i have finally caved and took the spit test and failed miserably.  my hubby did too, but not the kids.  i am at a total loss for what to eat.  my entire menu has been thrown out the window.  i need a plan, because every time i try to eat the yeast/sugar free way i just starve.  i already weigh 95 pounds and can't really afford any loss.  i read that a person on this diet can't have wheat or gluten, etc. of any sort, so is there any way to make bread that could be eaten as 1 slice per day or something?  i read the gf/cf thread, but it sounds as if that has yeast in it?  i am told we are to eat less than 60 carbs per day.  but with the list of NO's i don't see any place to get them from.  do you gals eat beans?  i didn't see them on the list.  black, white northern, garbanzo, etc.  i am going to start back at the beginning of this thread, but in the meantime, any help would be appreciated.  thanks, c.
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: blessedmama March 01, 2008, 08:39:06 AM
I have been doing the cleanse now for 5 days.  For breakfast we mostly eat eggs, omelets with onions, mushrooms, a little cheese then after it is cooked we add salsa and sour cream.  We also eat them poached, scrambled with salda and sour cream etc.  A crustless quiche is yummy as well.  I know that you can have buckwheat, millet, quinoa and amaramath.  If you look on the first page of posts there is a recipe for coconut flour muffins.  I plan on making those today.  For lunch we have had chili, pork chops, red potatoes sliced thin that I baked at 450 with green beans and some bacon grease.  I added a little garlic and onion salt and hubby requested it again the following night.  Tonight I am making taco soup and last night we had roasted chicken.  I took the left over chicken bones, the drippings along with the inside parts will make a broth tomorrow and then make chicken and wild rice soup with veggies in it.  Oh and the other night we had lamb steaks.  HTH
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: 4myhoonie March 01, 2008, 09:16:53 AM
I have been doing the cleanse now for 5 days.  For breakfast we mostly eat eggs, omelets with onions, mushrooms, a little cheese then after it is cooked we add salsa and sour cream.  We also eat them poached, scrambled with salda and sour cream etc.  A crustless quiche is yummy as well.  I know that you can have buckwheat, millet, quinoa and amaramath.  If you look on the first page of posts there is a recipe for coconut flour muffins.  I plan on making those today.  For lunch we have had chili, pork chops, red potatoes sliced thin that I baked at 450 with green beans and some bacon grease.  I added a little garlic and onion salt and hubby requested it again the following night.  Tonight I am making taco soup and last night we had roasted chicken.  I took the left over chicken bones, the drippings along with the inside parts will make a broth tomorrow and then make chicken and wild rice soup with veggies in it.  Oh and the other night we had lamb steaks.  HTH

thank you for all the ideas.  that helps, and i want to do something with the grains, just not sure how, as i am really unfamiliar with them.  i have a friend who is loaning me a candida clease cookbook, and has some unusual flours such as the above she might loan me.  i guess my life will be about food and cooking differently for a time, and i will have to put my focus on that.  feeling like a fish out of water..... :-\ 

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: 4myhoonie March 01, 2008, 10:57:23 AM
If I add whole grains like quinoa once a day? Or what about our GF biscuits? Thanks all!
B

i just found this above about these grains being ok to use while fighting candida:  (from Skelliot2 quote)

"Amaranth and quinoa are gluten free, and allowed on an anti-candida diet.  So are millet and buckwheat.  These are the only grains we used when we fought candida." 

blessedmama--i wonder if this is the post you were looking for?
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: 4myhoonie March 01, 2008, 10:58:49 AM
I have been doing the cleanse now for 5 days.  For breakfast we mostly eat eggs, omelets with onions, mushrooms, a little cheese then after it is cooked we add salsa and sour cream.  We also eat them poached, scrambled with salda and sour cream etc.  A crustless quiche is yummy as well.  I know that you can have buckwheat, millet, quinoa and amaramath.  If you look on the first page of posts there is a recipe for coconut flour muffins.  I plan on making those today.  For lunch we have had chili, pork chops, red potatoes sliced thin that I baked at 450 with green beans and some bacon grease.  I added a little garlic and onion salt and hubby requested it again the following night.  Tonight I am making taco soup and last night we had roasted chicken.  I took the left over chicken bones, the drippings along with the inside parts will make a broth tomorrow and then make chicken and wild rice soup with veggies in it.  Oh and the other night we had lamb steaks.  HTH

thanks!  the red potato idea sounds good, would you like to post your recipe or the ingred for taco soup?  i have one, but am pretty sure it's not low carb and my family is tired of it.
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: blessedmama March 01, 2008, 11:42:57 AM
I don't know if it is low carb or not  ??? didn't think about that, goodness and this is our fifth day!  Wonder what damage I have done.  I tried to search out a website that can give you the counts but haven't found one yet!  I will keep looking.  Sorry!  I did get the recipe from allrecipes.com.
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: 4myhoonie March 01, 2008, 01:04:46 PM
I don't know if it is low carb or not  ??? didn't think about that, goodness and this is our fifth day!  Wonder what damage I have done.  I tried to search out a website that can give you the counts but haven't found one yet!  I will keep looking.  Sorry!  I did get the recipe from allrecipes.com.

one i have been using is www.sparkpeople.com  you can input your own recipes and it will give you all the nutrition info, it is geared toward weightloss, but will track everything you eat for the day, etc.  the membership is free. 
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: blessedmama March 03, 2008, 07:13:23 AM
I went to sparkspeople.com and checked out the recipe section and found the taco soup that I use with taco seasoning and ranch dressing seasoning and the carbs range from 29 to 59 grams so unfortunately it is very high in carbs.  Before we did this cleanse I did so much research so that we would be eating the right foods and it really doesn't matter how much I try to be informed I have messed up big time.  But I'm not worried about it because we aren't eating anything with sugar, I am only occasionally allowing my family an apple etc.  Plus we aren't eating whole grains of any kind other than brown and wild rice.  I've read that eating an orange is ok but then somewhere else like in this candida booklet it says not to.  Very very confusing!!  I feel a little frustrated  :-\ but I guess the occasional orange or overdose of carbs is not as bad as having sucanant or raw honey.  At least that is what I am hoping!!  :D  I would love it if someone else who has successfully done this candida cleanse would post some of the things they ate, that would be helpful!  Thanks!  ;D
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: 4myhoonie March 03, 2008, 07:58:38 AM
hi all, i am looking to find a successful recipe for a low carb bread or something that can be used as toast with eggs.  i would like to have the 3 grains in it amaranth, quinoa, and buckwheat or some combo like that.  anyone have a tried and true recipe that has been used on a anti-candida diet?  thanks!
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: naturalgirl March 03, 2008, 03:27:42 PM

I loved the link on Kombucha Naturalgirl, I read it out loud to my 13 yr old dd who doesn't like Kombucha and is suffering from terrible die off.  Maybe just maybe I can get her to drink a big glass of it today.  Thank you for the link! 

You're welcome! However, at least part of the credit goes to Gabe as all I did was followed a link he provided in the "How to" thread  ;D
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: morningglory March 03, 2008, 04:26:16 PM
Glutino makes flax crackers that are just whole flax seeds deyhdrated into flat crackers.  It was a big help for my DS, who has a love affair with crackers.  They're fairly low carb, and his pooping habits have never been better! ;D
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: 4myhoonie March 06, 2008, 06:11:10 AM
i am really enjoying www.sparkpeople.com.  you can add foods not in their database, you can track how much water you drink, i have had a little trouble with things like ounces, grams, etc.  but it is really helping me to track how many carbs i am eating. 

on a side note, my hubby found where it is ok to eat cooked cheese, but other things say no cheese at all.  is it ok to add that in after a couple weeks?  in very small amounts?  or never as long as you are cleansing for yeast?  anyone eating cheese?  which kinds are NOT stinky, thus ok to eat?

are we supposed to be counting "net" carbs, (after subtracting the fiber) or just total carbs?--i'm guessing it's net, since HB removed the fiber on page 1 of what to eat.  i am really surprised at how fast carbs add up.  i am at 37 for the day after putting in what i plan to eat.  am taking herbs and TTU AB, maybe some garlic.  hope this works!

i've ordered my stevia, now i just need to figure out a low carb bread.  yippee! to finally being brave enough to do this and getting it figured out!   ;D  so good to have the support of friends too.  thanks!
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: 4myhoonie March 06, 2008, 08:27:18 AM
not sure if i posted this the other day, but i have had trouble finding it each time, so thought i would share it so we could all find it easily.  it is for adding a recipe of your own, and it will show you nutrition facts. 

http://www.sparkrecipes.com/home.asp

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: 4myhoonie March 13, 2008, 09:56:03 AM
Grain Alternatives
ß Amaranth
ß Buckwheat
ß Quinoa

Breads, Biscuits and Muffins – All breads, biscuits and muffins should be
made with baking powder or baking soda as a leavening agent.


ok, so after reading about these three grains, i am wondering if their carb amounts need to be counted, or do they just not feed the yeast so it doesn't matter?   ???
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: pljammie March 13, 2008, 11:37:12 AM
Can I drink kefir while fighting candida?  Does the probiotics outweigh the yeast that is in it?

I'm interesting in knowing about the previously mentioned grains as well. :)
Jammie
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: 4myhoonie March 13, 2008, 11:39:55 AM
Can I drink kefir while fighting candida?  Does the probiotics outweigh the yeast that is in it?

I'm interesting in knowing about the previously mentioned grains as well. :)
Jammie

yes, kefir is highly recommended to fight yeast.
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: healthybratt March 13, 2008, 05:22:09 PM
Can I drink kefir while fighting candida?  Does the probiotics outweigh the yeast that is in it?

I'm interesting in knowing about the previously mentioned grains as well. :)
Jammie
Kefir is good.  You might want to read this thread to help with clarification.

Candida Albicans vs Other Yeasts: Are All Yeasts Created Equal (http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,3101.0.html)
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: skelliott2 March 13, 2008, 07:11:25 PM
Can I drink kefir while fighting candida?  Does the probiotics outweigh the yeast that is in it?

I'm interesting in knowing about the previously mentioned grains as well. :)
Jammie

The kefir bacteria eat the sugars in the milk, so it doesn't feed the yeast at all.  It just populates your stomach with the good bacteria.  Wonderful stuff!

Those grains are actually seeds, and don't feed the yeast.  Carb counts don't matter as long as you strictly follow the diet, and only eat approved foods. Millet is also allowed!
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: pljammie March 14, 2008, 01:31:06 AM
Are all yeasts created equal....

I should have known there was a thread like that.  ;D
Thanks, HB

Jammie
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: pljammie March 14, 2008, 06:44:27 AM
on a side note, my hubby found where it is ok to eat cooked cheese, but other things say no cheese at all.  is it ok to add that in after a couple weeks?  in very small amounts?  or never as long as you are cleansing for yeast?  anyone eating cheese?  which kinds are NOT stinky, thus ok to eat?

I am planning on eating cheese when the YA gets here...ordered it today.  Stinky cheese would include those that have molds added to them, like brie, blue, etc.  Cheddar, colby jack, mozarella, parmesan and other aged cheeses like that have cheese cultures added, but no molds.  In general, fresh cheeses like cream cheese, cottage cheese, and chevre also don't have molds added.  However, there is a goat cheese that is fresh and has molds added.  It has a mold rind on it similar to brie, (sorry can't remember it's name).  Anyway, I hope that helps.   (note*I have dairy animals and took two cheese making classes - which is why I happen to know trivial information about molds and cheese...lol)

We also found in our initial no sugar/low carb trial some popcorn cakes tha have lower carbs than most snacks...however, I'm sure the process in which they are made and the additives would make them unhealthy.   

Jammie
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: 4myhoonie March 14, 2008, 09:33:20 AM
thanks, Jammie!  that clears things up considerably! 
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: jewelrylight March 17, 2008, 12:32:02 PM
Yeast Assasin is made by the company Beeyouthiful:)
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: pljammie March 18, 2008, 04:51:16 AM
I made a batch of the Nourishing Traditions mayo to go on a salad last night for supper.  Do you all think this is an ok substitute for salad dressing?  It does have some lemon juice, but mostly it's egg and olive oil.  It tastes very similar to Hellman's mayo.  In fact when I made it I said, "You aren't going to believe what this tastes like!?!"  And my four year old, very matter of factly says, "Mayonnaise"

Anyway, it was better than dry salad but not as good as ranch. :D

Jammie
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: 4myhoonie March 18, 2008, 05:15:54 AM
i am using ranch and it only has 1 carb per serving.  unless there is some other reason it shouldn't be used when fighting yeast? 
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: boysmama March 18, 2008, 05:27:10 AM
i am using ranch and it only has 1 carb per serving.  unless there is some other reason it shouldn't be used when fighting yeast? 
Are you making homemade? Should  be fine  ;)
Storebought-  :-\ - go for one that is msg and citric acid free.
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: 4myhoonie March 18, 2008, 05:44:20 AM
i am using ranch and it only has 1 carb per serving.  unless there is some other reason it shouldn't be used when fighting yeast? 
Are you making homemade? Should  be fine  ;)
Storebought-  :-\ - go for one that is msg and citric acid free.

does msg and citric acid aggrivate or feed the candida?  really i am not too concerned about it aside from that.  i have tried several homemade varieties and we weren't really thrilled with any of them.  i figured since we have given up all storebought premade items it wouldn't make or break us to keep 1.   :-\  maybe i am wrong........   :P  thanks for your input!
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: boysmama March 23, 2008, 03:44:16 PM
sorry, I missed this at first. Yes, I do think the MSG and citric acid aggravate the candida. 
You just have to see how it goes for y'all as to whether it is important to cut every bit.  MSG is easier to avoid than citric acid.
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: 4myhoonie March 26, 2008, 10:23:16 AM
on a side note, my hubby found where it is ok to eat cooked cheese, but other things say no cheese at all.  is it ok to add that in after a couple weeks?  in very small amounts?  or never as long as you are cleansing for yeast?  anyone eating cheese?  which kinds are NOT stinky, thus ok to eat?

I am planning on eating cheese when the YA gets here...ordered it today.  Stinky cheese would include those that have molds added to them, like brie, blue, etc.  Cheddar, colby jack, mozarella, parmesan and other aged cheeses like that have cheese cultures added, but no molds.  In general, fresh cheeses like cream cheese, cottage cheese, and chevre also don't have molds added.  However, there is a goat cheese that is fresh and has molds added.  It has a mold rind on it similar to brie, (sorry can't remember it's name).  Anyway, I hope that helps.   (note*I have dairy animals and took two cheese making classes - which is why I happen to know trivial information about molds and cheese...lol)

We also found in our initial no sugar/low carb trial some popcorn cakes tha have lower carbs than most snacks...however, I'm sure the process in which they are made and the additives would make them unhealthy.   

Jammie

hey Jammie, any idea about Risotto?   ??? 
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Kati*did March 27, 2008, 02:55:06 AM
Oops...posted this in the wrong place.  Risotto is rice (maybe you're thinking of ricotta?).  I wouldn't eat risotto during a yeast cleanse just because rice in general has a pretty high carb count.  1/2 a cup of risotto can have around 25 grams of carbs.
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: pljammie March 27, 2008, 04:04:55 AM
I agree risotto is rice so I wouldn't do it yet.  Interestingly, the Yeast Connection cookbook uses lot of alternative grains.  I am getting the idea that he thinks the gluten feeds the yeast, not necessarily the carbs.  1/3 c. quinoa has 30 carbs, but he uses it in a lot of recipes. 

Here's a nice treat for a snack or breakfast
It is slightly sweet and does have that nasty art. sweetener aftertaste, but  a nice change just the same.  I'm out of stevia, that might be a better choice for the sweetener.  I also left out the cheddar cheese...just thought it was a weird addition.  I ate it warm, but I think it might be better cold.
2 net carbs each...makes 8 servings
Cheese "danish" (and I use the term danish really loosely...lol)
Ingredients:

    * 4 oz cream cheese
    * 4 whole eggs
    * 1/3 cup heavy cream
    * 1/3 cup Parmesean cheese
    * 1/4 cup Splenda
    * 1 teaspoon cinnamon (more if you like)
    * 1 egg yolk
    * 2 cups grated Cheddar cheese
    * 1/4 teaspoon vanilla
    * 4 oz cream cheese
    * 1/4 cup Splenda

Preheat oven to 375°F.

Beat together the first six ingredients until smooth. Spray 8" x 11" pan with PAM. Spread grated cheddar cheese evenly over the bottom of pan and gently pour batter over it.

Bake at 375°F for 20 minutes; then lower heat to 300°F

Mix the remaining ingredients and beat until smooth.

Gently spread topping over the crust. Bake an additional 25 minutes at 300°F. Allow to cool to room temperature.

Jammie
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: 4myhoonie March 27, 2008, 06:36:06 AM
Oops...posted this in the wrong place.  Risotto is rice (maybe you're thinking of ricotta?).  I wouldn't eat risotto during a yeast cleanse just because rice in general has a pretty high carb count.  1/2 a cup of risotto can have around 25 grams of carbs.

oops, yup you're right.   ::) ;)
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Kati*did March 27, 2008, 07:09:20 AM
Oops...posted this in the wrong place.  Risotto is rice (maybe you're thinking of ricotta?).  I wouldn't eat risotto during a yeast cleanse just because rice in general has a pretty high carb count.  1/2 a cup of risotto can have around 25 grams of carbs.

oops, yup you're right.   ::) ;)
Sorry 4myhoonie!  I didn't mean you posted this in the wrong place.  I had posted it before in the wrong place and just moved it today.   ::)
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: 4myhoonie March 30, 2008, 03:18:52 AM
just as a lunch or snack idea, i've been wrapping tuna salad or leftovers of it in a lettuce leaf, it's not hugely filling, but it's not something i wouldn't have thought of if WTM'er skelliot2 hadn't mentioned it!   ::)  i am normally a little low on creativity, my 1st child took it when she was born or something....... ;D

so what are ya'll yeast fighting people eating???  anything new and unusual or interesting???  post them here!    ;) 
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: wendyp March 30, 2008, 11:47:09 AM
Thanks 4myhoonie for the link to this thread. :D

Well, I just started really looking through this site yesterday so have much to learn.  But we are trying to get started with what we have right now and will really get going later this week when our produce order comes in.

For lunch we had red potatoes that I sliced into wedges and then dipped them in melted butter and sprinkled garlic salt on and baked. I also just saw the post about potatoes with bacon grease, beans, etc.  That looks good.  We had sauerkraut, too, but just saw something that said to avoid that.  We made our last year from our garden produce with salt brine.  Is that okay to eat?  I am assuming some is made with vinegar and that is why you should avoid it.  Am I wrong on that?

I have searched for recipes for millet or quinoa oatmeal type recipes and haven't found any.  Does anyone know how to make hot cereal out of these grains?

Blessings

Wendy
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: 4myhoonie March 30, 2008, 01:56:55 PM
Thanks 4myhoonie for the link to this thread. :D

Well, I just started really looking through this site yesterday so have much to learn.  But we are trying to get started with what we have right now and will really get going later this week when our produce order comes in.

For lunch we had red potatoes that I sliced into wedges and then dipped them in melted butter and sprinkled garlic salt on and baked. I also just saw the post about potatoes with bacon grease, beans, etc.  That looks good.  We had sauerkraut, too, but just saw something that said to avoid that.  We made our last year from our garden produce with salt brine.  Is that okay to eat?  I am assuming some is made with vinegar and that is why you should avoid it.  Am I wrong on that?

I have searched for recipes for millet or quinoa oatmeal type recipes and haven't found any.  Does anyone know how to make hot cereal out of these grains?

Blessings

Wendy

hey Wendy, you are welcome!  i am not eating any potatoes yet, or just a couple bites, even red.  i think i would just double the water for the millet or quinoa, and cook for  a while, then put the lid on for a bit.  guess someone could give more specifics.  you might try this thread, "what do your kids eat for breakfast?"

http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,12713.0.html

and there is a millet recipe for millet delight in reply #16 here:

http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,8335.msg108405.html#msg108405

good luck!
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: pljammie March 30, 2008, 03:30:39 PM
Has anyone tried eating the quinoa or millet or alt. grains?  I haven't tried them yet.  I'm not sure how the carbs work or if it doesn't matter since they are gluten free.  I'm still eating mostly salads, meat, cheese and eggs.  I do have some recipes for quinoa and hot cereals, but was afraid to try them yet.  I've also had a few potatoes here and there (like maybe 1/4 c.)  Last night I had two tostadas (12 carbs) with 1/2 c. refried beans (11 net carbs) topped with lettuce, tomato, cheese and sour cream.  I think I calculated my whole meal to be around 24 net carbs.

This week we are having salmon patties.   I also bought some spaghetti squash, turnips, and cauliflower.  I'm making cauli-"rice" with the cauliflower.  You run the cauliflower in the food processor until it is fine like rice.  Then you steam it and season it.  I'm thinking we may have beef and broccoli with it using venison.

We are also having:
Crustless Quiche (not sure the total carbs)
    *  5 eggs
    * 1/4 cup flour (I may leave this out or try quinoa flour)
    * 1/2 tsp. salt
    * 1/2 tsp. baking powder
    * 1/2 stick melted butter
    * 1 cup cottage cheese
    * 1/2 lb. grated cheddar cheese

Combine all ingredients and pour into a well-greased 9x9 pan. Bake at 400° for 15 minutes. Reduce to 350° and cook for 30-40 more minutes.

Jammie
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: 4myhoonie March 30, 2008, 04:47:23 PM
here's my recipe for Egg Frittata:

12 eggs
2 c. milk (heavy cr. would prob. work)
1/2 pound or so cooked breakfast sausage
1/2 -1 c. cheese
green onions

mix and add sausage, then top with cheese & gr. onions.  also, may omit sausage and use bacon bits on top.  salt and pepper over the top.  bake
for 30-35 min til not slimy in middle @ 350*  it's great!! 
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: bpryor April 13, 2008, 06:04:30 AM
Can I eat canned tomatoes?
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: pljammie April 13, 2008, 08:36:24 AM
Canned tomatoes should be fine...they are a little lower in carbs than some veggies.  The can should give you a carb count on the back for each serving.  You can subtract fiber from that amount.

Roasted Veggies

2 small turnips, diced
1/2 large sweet potato, diced
1 zucchini, diced
3-4  T. coconut, olive oil or butter
1 small sprig of rosemary, finely chopped
a generous sprinkle of seasoned pepper
1/2 t. coarse kosher salt

Stir all together.  I use my round stoneware baking dish.  An 8 x11 dish would work too.  I pre-cook in the microwave for 5 minutes, if I'm in a hurry.  Roast at 475* until crispy and browned on top (15-20 minutes).  You will need to stir every once in a while to get the veggies evenly browned.  Everyone loved this at lunch today...well, except 2 out of 3 kids kids, but they ate it anyway since they didn't get a choice. ;D

We also had this cabbage recipe http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Fried-Cabbage-II/Detail.aspx (http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Fried-Cabbage-II/Detail.aspx) from www.allrecipes.com  You can sub stevia for the sugar or just leave it out like I did.  Although my mom in law said her mom always added the sugar and it makes a big difference in the taste.

Also, we tried the spaghetti squash and it was very good.  It is a little tiny bit crunchy, but I really liked it with spaghetti sauce.  I think it would be really good with butter and parmesan cheese as well. 

Jammie

: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Grace April 18, 2008, 12:04:38 PM
Are Mushrooms ok on a candida diet? How about alcohol? Like Crown Royal?
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: amazonmama2five April 18, 2008, 05:18:28 PM
Are Mushrooms ok on a candida diet? How about alcohol? Like Crown Royal?

Mushrooms are not permitted on a Candida cleanse.  I don't have the info at my fingertips.  My MIL is doing a CC now, she started this week.  She got all her info from the Hallelujah Acres folks. 
If you want specifics, I can post them tomorrow............
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Grace April 19, 2008, 04:25:07 AM
Are Mushrooms ok on a candida diet? How about alcohol? Like Crown Royal?

Mushrooms are not permitted on a Candida cleanse.  I don't have the info at my fingertips.  My MIL is doing a CC now, she started this week.  She got all her info from the Hallelujah Acres folks. 
If you want specifics, I can post them tomorrow............
I would love to have specifics when you have time. Thanks!
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Grace April 19, 2008, 09:04:57 AM
I've been to the store and I am back with more ???'s! ::) Is popcorn ok to eat? Is it a seed or a grain? I would still like to know about alcohol and details on mushrooms.... ;DThanks!
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: 4myhoonie April 19, 2008, 09:58:39 AM
I've been to the store and I am back with more ???'s! ::) Is popcorn ok to eat? Is it a seed or a grain? I would still like to know about alcohol and details on mushrooms.... ;DThanks!

no popcorn, no alcohol, just count your carbs and limit it.  i did great when i stayed under 30 or 35.  then the higher i got the more trouble i had.  when you add things in, just add in whole grains.  lowest carb fruits maybe.  counting them of course.  be sure you are using probiotics and if you have leaky gut, use something like Primal defense, cod liver oil, or other things that would heal the gut lining.  hope this helps! 
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Grace April 19, 2008, 11:24:51 AM
If you scroll down after clicking on this link, there is a very easy to understand list of what to eat and what not to eat.

 http://www.yeastinfectionadvisor.com/candidadiet.html  (http://www.yeastinfectionadvisor.com/candidadiet.html)
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: skelliott2 April 19, 2008, 03:42:00 PM
Has anyone tried eating the quinoa or millet or alt. grains? 

Yes.  I like quinoa best in pilafs.  It's really good with indian spices and sauteed veggies.  Millet is the best bfast cereal IMO, and buckwheat makes good flatbread.  You can make pancakes with buckwheat, but they taste pretty strong.  Not our favorite.  How are you doing??  Still on the diet?

Thanks for the quiche recipe.  We might make that this week!
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: pljammie April 19, 2008, 05:57:57 PM
I'm still on the diet...sort of...there was a bad time this weekend that involved Blue Bell ice cream...but I'm pretending it didn't happen.  :-[

I'm still enjoying my taco salad on a regular basis...although the kids asked why I keep making mexican food...lol.  They really would like some pizza, but I haven't had time to try out the parmesan pizza crust recipe from here.

So far, I am eating lots of cheese, boiled eggs, nuts and meat of some sort.  I've also stooped to eating pork rinds for something crunchy.  :o   I bought more turnips for the roasted veggies.

We had chili rellenos casserole last night and it was good. (12 net carbs for 1/8th of it.  I used raw milk in place of the evaporated milk, and whole wheat flour for the thickener.

http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Chiles-Rellenos-Pie/Detail.aspx (http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Chiles-Rellenos-Pie/Detail.aspx)

Jammie
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: 4myhoonie April 20, 2008, 05:24:22 PM
we had a meal that passed the test the other night.  nothing spectacular, but pretty good.  cook chicken breasts (boneless) in a skillet or stoneware, cover with cheese and crumbled bacon.  we had green beans with cheese, and salad.  everyone seems to miss the potatoes, etc.  i think it may be a consistency thing.  after i get going i don't miss that stuff.  my kids are too back and forth on it.
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: healthybratt April 22, 2008, 07:42:10 AM
Are Mushrooms ok on a candida diet? How about alcohol? Like Crown Royal?

Mushrooms are not permitted on a Candida cleanse.  I don't have the info at my fingertips.  My MIL is doing a CC now, she started this week.  She got all her info from the Hallelujah Acres folks. 
If you want specifics, I can post them tomorrow............
Mushrooms and stinky cheese and other types of edible fungi and mold are not recommended by most of the experts who write about yeast.  The only reasoning I have been able to find was on one website where the author said that yeasts cross react.  I've even read the Yeast Connection Cookbook and other than giving a directive not to eat these things I cannot recall the author giving any reasons why not to.

Here's my thoughts.  Mushrooms do not cause yeast as far as I know.  The are very low in carbs and contain no unnatural sugars or hormones that might feed candida.  They also do not crossbreed with candida as far as any logical research that I've done.  If you can find some documentation to refute this, I'd be very interested as this question comes up alot.

I personally ate stinky cheese and mushrooms alot while cleansing from yeast and had no issues.  I suppose it's possible that this slowed my healing time, so use your judgment based on what you know and be sure and let us know your results and your conclusions.  Wine is also cautioned against for the same reasons; however, I think alcohol in moderation should be fine IF the carb count is low.  Beer would most likely be out for this reason as the average bottle of beer contains about 10-20 carbs.  You could sneak one in on occassion, but I don't think it would be a big sacrifice for most of you to give up beer for a couple of weeks.  ;)  I don't honestly recall the carb counts for distilled liquors.
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Grace April 22, 2008, 08:09:49 AM
Thanks HB! My Yeast connection cookbook has not come yet so I am still sort of blindly hoping I am doing this all right. Yesterday we were out going errands and my dh Went ahead and atea hamburger fro McDonalds and 2 doughnuts from Krispy Kreme's! :o Will this set him back like a day....back to the beginning...?? Can you cure candida without doing the diet 100%? Besides yesterday, He has been staying on the good foods about 95% I think. Can he make progress and kill the candida like that? I hope I am not asking toooo many questions! There is sooo much info it can be hardto find the answers!!!
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: healthybratt April 22, 2008, 09:16:55 AM
Thanks HB! My Yeast connection cookbook has not come yet so I am still sort of blindly hoping I am doing this all right. Yesterday we were out going errands and my dh Went ahead and atea hamburger fro McDonalds and 2 doughnuts from Krispy Kreme's! :o Will this set him back like a day....back to the beginning...?? Can you cure candida without doing the diet 100%? Besides yesterday, He has been staying on the good foods about 95% I think. Can he make progress and kill the candida like that? I hope I am not asking toooo many questions! There is sooo much info it can be hardto find the answers!!!
Okay, yeast multiply very rapidly and if you have candida, consider you have millions of them all multiplying at an exponential rate.  Now...you do things to kill "some" of them - changing diet, eliminating sugar, taking supplements etc.  If you could kill them all in a day, most ppl probably wouldn't be dealing with so many issues related to yeast and Diflucan would probably be over-the-counter by now.  ;D 

Then you still have some of them left and you give them some Krispy Kremes.  Yippeee, sugar buffet.  ;D  Then they eat and remultiply.

Kinda taking two steps forward and one step back if you ask me.  This is to say it's not impossible to beat candida and eat a Krispy Kreme donut; however, it's going to substantially slow the process and depending on the amount of donuts, it may impede it completely.  Keep him as close to regimin as he will allow.  Up his probiotics if you can.  Give him more antifungal foods and supplements as he'll tolerate.  Try to beat it down with everything you've got.  Then if he eats a donut, give him a double does of garlic .   :D  but don't give up.
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Grace April 24, 2008, 11:30:54 AM
Is unsweetened Chocolate ok to eat while on a candida cleanse? Like the bakers choc?
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: healthybratt April 24, 2008, 12:38:14 PM
Is unsweetened Chocolate ok to eat while on a candida cleanse? Like the bakers choc?
Absolutely but good luck with that.   :-X
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Grace April 24, 2008, 01:09:05 PM
Is unsweetened Chocolate ok to eat while on a candida cleanse? Like the bakers choc?
Absolutely but good luck with that.   :-X
I am thinking of mixing some xylitol in with the choc and then use the sweetened choc to cover almond butter(made into balls). Sort of like Peanut butter balls.
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: healthybratt April 24, 2008, 01:26:17 PM
Is unsweetened Chocolate ok to eat while on a candida cleanse? Like the bakers choc?
Absolutely but good luck with that.   :-X
I am thinking of mixing some xylitol in with the choc and then use the sweetened choc to cover almond butter(made into balls). Sort of like Peanut butter balls.
Let us know how that turns out.  I tried stevia and lets just say, the results were not worth posting about. :P
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Grace April 24, 2008, 01:36:52 PM
Is unsweetened Chocolate ok to eat while on a candida cleanse? Like the bakers choc?
Absolutely but good luck with that.   :-X
I am thinking of mixing some xylitol in with the choc and then use the sweetened choc to cover almond butter(made into balls). Sort of like Peanut butter balls.
Let us know how that turns out.  I tried stevia and lets just say, the results were not worth posting about. :P
I really am hoping for at least edible results! My poor DH is really having a hard time with this candida diet! Meals are going ok, but I am realizing he like to snack alot! For Breakfast I am doing fried eggs(3) with some sort of meat(leftover steak, salmon patties or lamb sausage. The lamb and salmon were not a hit!) Lunch is a salad with meat and lots of veggies, homemade salad dressing ands a hard boiled egg to go with it. Also some toasted pumpkin seeds. Dinner is Beef or chicken or fish with lots of mixed steamed veggies. I made a "dessert" that was pumpkin pie filling made with goats milk and no sugar. That was decently good. I have also made a veggie dip with Avacado, goat yogurt and seasoning. He actually likes that, but can only eat it sooo much! I guess I am rambling.... ::) I jsut feel bad for him and me, because he is really wanting more things to eat!!!
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: naturalgirl April 24, 2008, 02:07:21 PM
Hang in there! Sometimes life just isn't easy   :) Here's some ideas:

~~I've found that quinoa, a bit of cinnamon, coconut oil, and some stevia (I use the white kind found in packets) tastes good.

~~ Have you ever tried to wrap romaine lettuce around raw cashew butter? Some might think I'm nuts ( ;D) but I like that for a snack.

If you mix half sour cream (homemade, if you can) with yogurt, put a bit of onion powder, garlic powder, parsley, dill, and some salt in it, that makes a great dip for veggies.

Another favorite of mine is butter stuffed celery

Casserole: Cook up some pieces of chicken. While that is cooking, cook up some kind of grain...quinoa or millet or brown rice. Use the broth from the chicken to make a somewhat watery gravy. Slice in some olives, a bit of jalapeno pepper, cumin, salt, and oregano. Stir fry some colorful veggies. Mix 1/3 of the gravy with the grain and add a few eggs, one egg per 2c. mixture. Put in a greased oven dish/pan. (9x13 for 4-6c. mixture) Mix chopped chicken, veggies, and remaining sauce and pour over top. Cook for around thirty minutes or until mixture is bubbly. Arrowroot can be used as a thickener, but if you're not used to that, I'd feel free to, at least at first, use half whole grain flour and half arrowroot. Just a thought.

~~ Sweet potato and raw walnuts

~~A bit of dill in yogurt, stirred, with cucumber slices to dip with

~~ Might sound funny again, but did you know that you can used raw, scooped out onion as a "bowel" for baking grain-based casseroles in? You can fry up some meat, add some leftover cooked whole grain and veggies to it (with spices), spoon into the onions and bake for a while. These are really filling.

~~ use a greased pie pan and bake a filling for a quiche in that.

There's some ideas! Hopefully it is OK to post them here.
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: Grace April 24, 2008, 03:05:12 PM
Thanks for the ideas!! As I understand sweet potatoes and grains are all no no's during the first part of a candida diet. But I will definitely try those ideas once he can have them!!! I have "created" a decent salad dressing recipie for anyone interested.....
2T Sesame Oil
1/4 C Apple Cider Vinegar or lemon Juice(best w/ 1/2 and 1/2)
1 1/2 t soy sauce(tamari)
2T Olive Oil
1t dried oregano
2-3 crushed garlic cloves.
Shake and serve!
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: amazonmama2five April 29, 2008, 11:17:34 AM
Are Mushrooms ok on a candida diet? How about alcohol? Like Crown Royal?

Mushrooms are not permitted on a Candida cleanse.  I don't have the info at my fingertips.  My MIL is doing a CC now, she started this week.  She got all her info from the Hallelujah Acres folks. 
If you want specifics, I can post them tomorrow............

I am sorry it took me a while to get back with you.  The reason mushrooms are forbidden is because they can be tainted with mold spores.  Later in the same booklet it says that some people react badly to mushrooms.  I think it has to be a personal decision.  I really LIKE mushrooms and would probably eliminate them at first.  But, if reintroducing them had no adverse effects.  I would eat up and be happy.
Probably washing them in a diluted vinegar wash would kill any mold or yeast...........
Hope this helps.
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Grace April 29, 2008, 11:41:09 AM
Are Mushrooms ok on a candida diet? How about alcohol? Like Crown Royal?

Mushrooms are not permitted on a Candida cleanse.  I don't have the info at my fingertips.  My MIL is doing a CC now, she started this week.  She got all her info from the Hallelujah Acres folks. 
If you want specifics, I can post them tomorrow............

I am sorry it took me a while to get back with you.  The reason mushrooms are forbidden is because they can be tainted with mold spores.  Later in the same booklet it says that some people react badly to mushrooms.  I think it has to be a personal decision.  I really LIKE mushrooms and would probably eliminate them at first.  But, if reintroducing them had no adverse effects.  I would eat up and be happy.
Probably washing them is a diluted vinegar wash would kill any mold or yeast...........
Hope this helps.
Thanks! I like the idea of washing them in diluted vinegar.
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: healthybratt April 30, 2008, 12:51:44 PM
Are Mushrooms ok on a candida diet? How about alcohol? Like Crown Royal?

Mushrooms are not permitted on a Candida cleanse.  I don't have the info at my fingertips.  My MIL is doing a CC now, she started this week.  She got all her info from the Hallelujah Acres folks. 
If you want specifics, I can post them tomorrow............

I am sorry it took me a while to get back with you.  The reason mushrooms are forbidden is because they can be tainted with mold spores.  Later in the same booklet it says that some people react badly to mushrooms.  I think it has to be a personal decision.  I really LIKE mushrooms and would probably eliminate them at first.  But, if reintroducing them had no adverse effects.  I would eat up and be happy.
Probably washing them is a diluted vinegar wash would kill any mold or yeast...........
Hope this helps.
This is the same reason peanuts are not recommended.  Interesting.
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: naturalgirl April 30, 2008, 03:36:09 PM
Why is squash (like pumpkin) OK and yet sweet potatoes/yams are a no-no, I wonder?



: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: pljammie May 01, 2008, 02:34:11 AM
everyone seems to miss the potatoes, etc.  i think it may be a consistency thing.  after i get going i don't miss that stuff.  my kids are too back and forth on it.

Have you tried turnips?  I'm beginning to like them. :)  At first I diced a turnip a zucchini and half of a potato.  I swirled them in coarse sea salt and coconut oil with a dollop of butter.  Then I roasted them at 450* until they were tender.  This is our favorite potato sub and we don't add the potato now...

Jammie
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: 4myhoonie May 01, 2008, 03:09:55 AM
everyone seems to miss the potatoes, etc.  i think it may be a consistency thing.  after i get going i don't miss that stuff.  my kids are too back and forth on it.

Have you tried turnips?  I'm beginning to like them. :)  At first I diced a turnip a zucchini and half of a potato.  I swirled them in coarse sea salt and coconut oil with a dollop of butter.  Then I roasted them at 450* until they were tender.  This is our favorite potato sub and we don't add the potato now...

Jammie

thanks for this idea!  i will see if i can get them around here, haven't ever even seen one!   ;D  more ideas welcome.  i got in a rut!   :P 
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: healthybratt May 01, 2008, 10:57:23 AM
Why is squash (like pumpkin) OK and yet sweet potatoes/yams are a no-no, I wonder?




Starch=carbs=yeast food.  That would be my guess.
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: naturalgirl May 05, 2008, 02:34:05 PM
What about dried berries like blueberries, strawberries, raspberries, etc. ? Maybe not durring the 2 week non-carbs, but the weeks after that???

Why is squash (like pumpkin) OK and yet sweet potatoes/yams are a no-no, I wonder?




Starch=carbs=yeast food.  That would be my guess.

Of course!  ::) Hmm...pumpkin and raw walnuts coming right up. Yum.

: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: skelliott2 May 05, 2008, 02:57:28 PM
For some reason, dried fruits are supposed to be more starchy than the real ones, so, if you can, it would be better to eat the fresh berries.  Berries are a good fruit to start with, though, as they are less yeast-feeding than other fruits.  Green apples and grapefruit are also acceptable in small amounts. 
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: healthybratt May 06, 2008, 09:28:43 AM
For some reason, dried fruits are supposed to be more starchy than the real ones, so, if you can, it would be better to eat the fresh berries.  Berries are a good fruit to start with, though, as they are less yeast-feeding than other fruits.  Green apples and grapefruit are also acceptable in small amounts. 
Dried and candied fruits do not have more sugar than the original piece of fruit in total but in ratio.

If a berry has .5 gram of water in it and .5 gram of flesh and .5 gram of sugar then 15 grams of berries would contain 5 grams of sugar.

If you remove the water, then it will take more berries and therefore more sugar to make up the total weight.  So now, 15 grams of berries would actually contain 7.5 grams of sugar.  Make sense?

: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: naturalgirl May 06, 2008, 10:33:55 AM

   Dried and candied fruits do not have more sugar than the original piece of fruit in total but in ratio.

If a berry has .5 gram of water in it and .5 gram of flesh and .5 gram of sugar then 15 grams of berries would contain 5 grams of sugar.

If you remove the water, then it will take more berries and therefore more sugar to make up the total weight.  So now, 15 grams of berries would actually contain 7.5 grams of sugar.  Make sense?



Yep. Drying berries doesn't make things sweeter, but the sugar is still there. Shrink berry, shrink amount. Just pure logic, dear Watson (ett)  ;D Sorry. No name calling, even if it was aimed at myself  ::)  :-X

   My question stemmed from an idea I've had to create a "candy" bar to take to work for my breakfasts that:

1. I can easily eat
2. Doesn't have many carb.s
3. Is tasty.

  I've come up with a variety of things that I could make a bar with, but I wanted to make sure of the dried fruit idea first, as I would be drying the fruit in the oven with the other ingredients. I plan to combine in a bowl something in the variety of:

Nuts
Seeds (ground flax)
Coconut oil
Stevia (in packets from Sweet Leaf. I've tried others, but I like this best)
Carob powder
Berries, dried or not (Could dry them first if I want "raisens")
Dried tart cherries, cut into small bits for fun coloring
Salt
Soda
Spices (ie cinnamon, ginger, etc.)
vanilla or other extract
Possibly some sprouted and/or soaked GF grain of some sort...buckwheat? Quinoa? The like, anyway.
Maybe some vit. C to preserve colors a bit.

I would then find the NT cookbook ( I think is what it is called. It's what everyone in here is talking about, which I have but don't have it handy ::)) and find a similar recipe and follow the baking instructions from there on; keeping the oven temp. low, turning the mixture/block over once, storing the result in bar shapes wrapped in plastic and stored in the refrigerator.

Anyways, there's my idea. Any helpful suggestions would be gladly read by me! :)

I'll post the results later of my glob invention... ;D
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: naturalgirl May 08, 2008, 08:02:36 AM
Both my sister and I are doing a Candida detox right now, and we both, although we've felt funny and have had a few gas cramps, haven't had much to complain about sickness-wise. Yea!  ;D I thought we'd be feeling sick for at least two days and was really dreading that.

One of the things I've come to the conclusion on is probably familiar with many of you, but I'm going to say it anyway to encourage any newbies like myself... IMO, you do what you can and don't worry about what you can't, food-wise (Or anything, for that matter, I guess  :D). I don't count my carb.s. I eat a minor amount of no-nos, as does my sister, because that is what we have to eat. I don't pout or tense up when my Dad wants me to eat a helping of potatoes, and I sleep well at night.    I am so glad for water. Actually, water has become sweet to me, to my surprise. I drink a lot because I can tell it is helping ("light" instead of "dark" neon yellow pee!  :D :D), and because I now love the taste of it. I drink a special carrot drink when my mom has time to make it, and don't worry about the carbs in the carrots. I'm getting bord of stir fry, so I'm going to make up a batch of maybe soup next. Hopefully my family will leave me some, lol... See what I mean? It has become a fun game in my mind to focus on what I can instead of what I can't, and a big relief too. I do miss the foods I see at the store sometimes, I admit, but not much. I guess I've personally had it easy there as allergies have closed doors to me many times in the past.

OK, I'll stop jabbering for now. I just thought my "new" discovery of not having to be nitty gritty picky and worried over what I eat/should eat an exciting one. You know what I'm going to eat first when I get off my more strict diet? A banana with peanut butter. Yummm... ;D
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Grace May 11, 2008, 12:04:11 PM
I read somewhere that small anounts of goats milk is ok when on a candida diet. My dh has been using it as creamer in his coffee. Why is g :ooats milk ok and cows milk is not? I am trying to convince him to use Kefir.... We will see!
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: healthybratt May 13, 2008, 05:54:54 AM
For those who are fighting hunger/cravings, I found that taking my  supplements when i get hungry (instead of during meals) helps to curb the craving for a bit and usually until the next scheduled meal.  The extra bulk from the supplements and the water fill up the tummy and give it something to do beside growl at me.   ;D
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Grace May 15, 2008, 04:11:24 AM
OK  All...I am back with more questions!! My DH did the candida diet for 10 days with about 95% sticking to it. Then he ate what ever for 3 days. Then 7 more days at 100%. Now brokke it for 2 days and I think is going to start sticking to it agin today. So...he is really getting frustrated with what he can't eat. He seems to see no improvement with the Rash he has which is the main thing he wants to get rid of on this diet. My opinion is if he keeps sticking to it he will see results, but he is tired of it and isn't  sure. If I cooked a low carb diet with no sugar for him and he kept taking his supplements would that be enough tokill the Candida? I am at a loss as what to do to help him that he will be able to stick to. Ideas?? Help??
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Leah IL May 22, 2008, 01:16:58 AM
HB...and anyone else who has done a candida cleanse...did you quit drinking coffee while on the cleanse?  HB, I know you love your coffee as I do, so I am particularly interested in knowing if you stopped or not. 

I have been on a liver cleansing diet for 2 weeks now- no dairy at all- well, except a little bit of 1/2 and 1/2 in my coffee  ::), tons of raw fruits and veggies and raw juices, whole wheat bread, pasta and brown rice, lots of sardines, tuna, and salmon, no red meat, no sugar.  Anyway, I am thinking this will be a great jumping off point to do my long awaited candida cleanse since I will have already eliminated many of the forbidden foods.

I've got the coffee down to one cup a day with just a little 1/2 and 1/2 in it.  So to make a long post short, DID YOU GIVE UP THE COFFEE??!!??  ;D :D
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: healthybratt May 22, 2008, 03:26:59 AM
HB...and anyone else who has done a candida cleanse...did you quit drinking coffee while on the cleanse?  HB, I know you love your coffee as I do, so I am particularly interested in knowing if you stopped or not.
Umm........ ;D

I typically drink coffee all thru the winter and stop as soon as it gets too hot.  This is just a normal seasonal thing for me.  I cleansed for 10 months, but if I remember correctly, I started my "no carbs" thing in the summer when I was off coffee for the season....however, if you use only real cream (1/2 & 1/2 isn't real cream  :D ) and stevia in your coffee, then I don't see any reason why you couldn't have it.  No carbs in there.   ;D
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Leah IL May 22, 2008, 04:07:57 AM
HB...and anyone else who has done a candida cleanse...did you quit drinking coffee while on the cleanse?  HB, I know you love your coffee as I do, so I am particularly interested in knowing if you stopped or not.
if you use only real cream (1/2 & 1/2 isn't real cream  :D )


I usually use light cream in my coffee actually :)  I don't like that oil slick that the heavy cream leaves on the top LOL

If I sweeten my coffee at all, I use a teaspoon of real maple syrup.  MMMMM.
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: SC July 25, 2008, 11:13:59 AM
I've been working on an article on vegetable oils as a result of a statement I heard during a conference. The speaker spoke about vegetable oils as if everyone knew they were pretty much unhealthy. It got me to wondering what I had missed. I mean, these are heart-healthy things, right?

I started doing some digging. At the end of this post is the link to my results, but I wanted to also take the time to say that one of the things I did discover is that in oils that have been extracted from seeds and vegetables by solvent extraction (basically, your exceptions to this process are the cold-pressed, extra virgin, organic oils) . . .

Off the top of my head, these would include canola (rapeseed), cottonseed, soy, corn, sunflower . . . etc.

ALL of these oils are dangerous to consume if you are trying to fend off an overgrowth of yeast (or make other healthful changes in your diet).

Why is that?

Because of the chemical solvents used in processing. The product is cooked and then a solvent is introduced to bind with the oils. The solvent is then extracted from the oil. This process is called solvent extraction. These are octane-type chemicals that are poisons and should never be introduced into the body. ONE of these chemicals is called Hexane.

Hexane has mutagenic effects for bacteria and/or yeast. A mutagen is a substance that tends to increase the frequency or extent of mutation. This means that bacteria and yeast could be made to mutate and become resistant to attempts to rid the body of the invaders. . . . And, BTW, this isn't even one of the more potent toxins that are used. . . But the industry assures us that all of these things are filtered out of your 'heart healthy' oils -- or at least lowered to inconsequential amounts.  ;D ::) :-\

Anyway, here's the link to the article (it contains links to source material)
Vegetable Oils Unsafe? A Lot to Swallow! (http://home.windstream.net/hughesnw/HealthDocs/vegetable_oil_history.htm)
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: 4myhoonie September 29, 2008, 08:52:02 AM

   Dried and candied fruits do not have more sugar than the original piece of fruit in total but in ratio.

If a berry has .5 gram of water in it and .5 gram of flesh and .5 gram of sugar then 15 grams of berries would contain 5 grams of sugar.

If you remove the water, then it will take more berries and therefore more sugar to make up the total weight.  So now, 15 grams of berries would actually contain 7.5 grams of sugar.  Make sense?



Yep. Drying berries doesn't make things sweeter, but the sugar is still there. Shrink berry, shrink amount. Just pure logic, dear Watson (ett)  ;D Sorry. No name calling, even if it was aimed at myself  ::)  :-X

   My question stemmed from an idea I've had to create a "candy" bar to take to work for my breakfasts that:

1. I can easily eat
2. Doesn't have many carb.s
3. Is tasty.

  I've come up with a variety of things that I could make a bar with, but I wanted to make sure of the dried fruit idea first, as I would be drying the fruit in the oven with the other ingredients. I plan to combine in a bowl something in the variety of:

Nuts
Seeds (ground flax)
Coconut oil
Stevia (in packets from Sweet Leaf. I've tried others, but I like this best)
Carob powder
Berries, dried or not (Could dry them first if I want "raisens")
Dried tart cherries, cut into small bits for fun coloring
Salt
Soda
Spices (ie cinnamon, ginger, etc.)
vanilla or other extract
Possibly some sprouted and/or soaked GF grain of some sort...buckwheat? Quinoa? The like, anyway.
Maybe some vit. C to preserve colors a bit.

I would then find the NT cookbook ( I think is what it is called. It's what everyone in here is talking about, which I have but don't have it handy ::)) and find a similar recipe and follow the baking instructions from there on; keeping the oven temp. low, turning the mixture/block over once, storing the result in bar shapes wrapped in plastic and stored in the refrigerator.

Anyways, there's my idea. Any helpful suggestions would be gladly read by me! :)

I'll post the results later of my glob invention... ;D

wondering if you ever did this?  it sounds good and would love a recipe like this.
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: healthybratt October 06, 2008, 03:57:30 PM
http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,3606.msg203466.html#msg203466

you might try the recipe above and add some nuts.
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Julia October 07, 2008, 10:06:57 AM
I've read whole grains are okay and I've read no carbs at all. Do you think that if I made some biscuits with whole wheat flour, no white flour, no sugar, and yogurt instead of milk, those would not encourage candida? I'm starving here trying to avoid everything and need something to fill up with.
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: carolina girl October 14, 2008, 09:35:59 AM
Alright, I ordered my list of supplements this morning and I am armed with a great list of foods that I can eat.  The only problem is that I don't know how to prepare most of the foods on this list.  And, are there any seasonings that I need to be avoiding on my foods?  I will list out all the foods listed by someone else previously, and if you know a great way to prepare the listed food item, would you please be so kind as to post that, as well? Obviously, some items are well known, but a new way to prepare them for a candida cleanse could be helpful and provide some variety.  Thanks so much!
 
avocados
broccoli
cauliflower
celery
lemons and limes
coconut oil
fresh seeds and nuts
Psyllium
glucomannon
inulin
artichoke
asparagus
bamboo shoots
bell pepper
beet top
bok choy
brussel sprouts
cabbage
chive
cilantro
collard
chard
cucumber
dandelion
eggplant
endive
escarole
garlic
green beans
kale
kohlrabi
leek
lettuce
mushroom*
okra
onion
parsley
fresh peas
radish
radiccio
spinach
sprouts
squash, (not banana or hubbard)
swiss chard
turnip top
watercress
zucchini
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: freshisbest October 14, 2008, 10:57:17 AM
I saute in oil and garlic; or roast in the oven in the same; cardomon and cinnamon is a great combo to make you think something is sweet; I posted a recipe for almond scones you could try..ommitting the raisins and using coconut oil on them...
1 1/2 c. almond flour ( or meal)
3/4 tsp soda
1/4 tsp salt
2/3 tsp cardomon
3/4 tsp cinnamon
1/2 cup yogurt
2 eggs
1/4 c walnuts
mix all and bake at 375 for about 15 mins
From the SC Diet.
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: 4myhoonie October 14, 2008, 05:05:09 PM
here's my guacamole recipe (blue items were on your list):

1 avocado
2 T sour cream
2 T salsa
2-3 cloves garlic pressed
a handful of cilantro
2 t. onion
2 black olives
1 t. lemon or lime juice

puree in food processor.

this can make lots of other things taste flavorful!  you can leave out the salsa and sour cream if you want to avoid them, or replace with yogurt.  it just makes it creamy.
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: 4myhoonie October 14, 2008, 05:07:42 PM
i would put the garlic, onion, kale, cabbage, & zucchini into most soups.  if i chop them fine my kids don't even know what they are!   ;D
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: skelliott2 October 14, 2008, 06:05:13 PM
The first thing I noticed on that list were leeks.  They are delicous!  You have to rinse them really well, layer by layer, then boil them in water.  The water makes a great veggie broth.  The leeks are really good sprinkled with sea salt, and a drizzle of olive oil or butter.  I could make a meal just out of leeks.  Yum!

They are also really, really good in eggs.  You could make a crustless quiche or frittata, and put in some leeks for flavor. 

Cauliflower is fabulous in a pureed soup.  It adds thickness and creaminess to it, kind of like potatoes, but good for a yeast diet!

This time of year, fall squash is really good as well.  Butternut squash is really yummy mashed up with cinnamon, and spaghetti squash is an awsome pasta substitute.

You can add kale to cole slaw, to give it some color.   Kale is also used a lot in green juices.  I blend mine in a vitamix with a green apple, whenever I need energy (which is pretty much every day)  :)  It's not very good cooked like collard greens, though.  I tried that once, and it was really slimy.   :P

: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: healthybratt October 19, 2008, 06:12:52 AM
For Nappa cabbage, swiss chard, and turnip tops, make kimchi.  For the cabbage, serve as a condiment or eat as a side.  For the dark green kimchi, boil with chicken until chicken is done and eat as a side with the chicken.

Use the traditional kimchi recipe for both.

http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,44.msg122.html#msg122
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: healthyinOhio December 29, 2008, 05:13:37 AM
My daughter is on a anti yeast and fungal diet whilst taking Nystatin.  I was given a list of foods to eat and avoid.  Surprisingly, it stated that honey could be eaten in small quantities, because it contained anti-fungal properties.  I thought that was odd, because I figured all sugar had to be avoided? 
But on this diet, absolutely NO grains are allowed at all.  I am wondering why there are some grains that people have said were o.k. on this thread?  Maybe I am reading the wrong thread, or something. lol ??
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: boysmama December 29, 2008, 11:39:48 AM
Many of the vegetables you listed are excellent in stirfries. Hopefully I will remember to come back and post recipes soon.  ;)
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: healthybratt December 30, 2008, 03:31:39 PM
My daughter is on a anti yeast and fungal diet whilst taking Nystatin.  I was given a list of foods to eat and avoid.  Surprisingly, it stated that honey could be eaten in small quantities, because it contained anti-fungal properties.  I thought that was odd, because I figured all sugar had to be avoided? 
But on this diet, absolutely NO grains are allowed at all.  I am wondering why there are some grains that people have said were o.k. on this thread?  Maybe I am reading the wrong thread, or something. lol ??
I avoided all grains until week 3 and then only added whole grains (oats & wheat) back in gradually thereafter.
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: YoopreMama December 30, 2008, 04:29:37 PM
We, ahem ::), were cheating w/ some of the "better" grains...buckwheat (isn't that a grass?), blue chips, red potatoes, quinoa, etc.  Some purists would say NO grains at all.  I guess it depends on how fast/painful you want to go.  ;D  Steve Tallent had a good post...it's quoted in the anti-yeast log thread...about battles, the war itself, and strategies...GAPS has no grains, but that's a bigger issue than yeast.
My daughter is on a anti yeast and fungal diet whilst taking Nystatin.  I was given a list of foods to eat and avoid.  Surprisingly, it stated that honey could be eaten in small quantities, because it contained anti-fungal properties.  I thought that was odd, because I figured all sugar had to be avoided? 
But on this diet, absolutely NO grains are allowed at all.  I am wondering why there are some grains that people have said were o.k. on this thread?  Maybe I am reading the wrong thread, or something. lol ??
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: pljammie December 31, 2008, 05:28:09 AM
Here is a cheater cookie...it does have a small amount of honey.  I made a half batch and they were yummy.  I also subbed crispy almonds for the cashews.  If xylitol is antifungal they are a good choice...not sure how you could leave out the honey though...it sort of binds it all together.

 Cookies:
Soak 2 cups of cashews for about 8 hours.
Rinse well in a bowl of fresh water and strain.
Repeat about 3 times.
Add the cashews to the food processor with:
2 tbs ghee or use virgin coconut oil for raw cookies
2 tbs honey
1 tbs xylitol
2 tsp vanilla
Puree. Scrape the sides, then add:
1 cup shredded coconut
Puree. Roll and press into shape. Dehydrate for 24 hours at 130 to 140 degrees.

: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: pljammie December 31, 2008, 05:30:41 AM
oh..the above cookie would not be approved for the Bee's diet (nuts, coconut, xylitol, honey all are not permitted on it)...but possibly for GAPS and with the exception of xylitol it would be maker's diet friendly...

Jammie

: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: its_me518 January 19, 2009, 11:26:59 AM
How bad would it be for someone trying to fight candida to have RAW Organic Cows milk?? Would it REALLY sabbatoge the whole cleanse? Or would it just slow it a tiny bit? ???
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: healthyinOhio January 19, 2009, 11:56:54 AM
How bad would it be for someone trying to fight candida to have RAW Organic Cows milk?? Would it REALLY sabbatoge the whole cleanse? Or would it just slow it a tiny bit? ???

My daughter and I consumed it and it didn't seem to affect us at all.
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: its_me518 January 20, 2009, 09:14:16 AM
How bad would it be for someone trying to fight candida to have RAW Organic Cows milk?? Would it REALLY sabbatoge the whole cleanse? Or would it just slow it a tiny bit? ???

My daughter and I consumed it and it didn't seem to affect us at all.
Thats awesome to hear! We JUST found an AWESOME source of RAW milk, and I just DON'T wanna pass it by! Obviously if it does affect us, we'll have to stop... but we'll see! Thanks!
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: boysmama January 20, 2009, 04:52:50 PM
How bad would it be for someone trying to fight candida to have RAW Organic Cows milk?? Would it REALLY sabbatoge the whole cleanse? Or would it just slow it a tiny bit? ???

My daughter and I consumed it and it didn't seem to affect us at all.
Thats awesome to hear! We JUST found an AWESOME source of RAW milk, and I just DON'T wanna pass it by! Obviously if it does affect us, we'll have to stop... but we'll see! Thanks!
Raw cows milk might not sabotage a candida cleanse, but if it is an allergen that is the root problem you might not see the progress you would like.
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: pljammie January 21, 2009, 09:52:56 AM
Also lactose will feed candida.  I would think it would be better consumed as a cultured drink like yogurt or kefir.  At least then, you are adding more probiotics to fight the yeast.  Of course at my house, I try to keep things in perspective.   I always say some raw milk (or in my case coconut milk since I'm allergic to cow milk) with fruit is better than m&m's and candy.  ;D

Jammie
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: its_me518 January 21, 2009, 10:17:48 AM
I agree with both of you. We are planning to basically go on a salad diet for about 2 weeks. If I am seeing ANY doubt about the milk, we will stop!
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: pljammie January 25, 2009, 04:36:29 PM
Here's a recipe I tried from www.wholeapproach.com...

Creamy Broccoli Soup
1/2 bag broccoli
1/2 bag cauliflower
1-2 quarts of turkey bone broth
1 leek chopped
2 cloves garlic, crushed
1 rib celery, chopped
1 sprig rosemary, chopped fine
1/2 tsp. thyme
salt and pepper to taste (I used almost 1 T. Pepperman seasoning by Frontier Herbs)

Saute leek, garlic, and celery.  Add broth and other ingredients.  Cook until tender.  I simmer for at least 30 minutes to let the seasonings blend with the veggies.  Then take 3-4 cups of soup and blend until smooth in a blender. It looks like jarred baby food, but tastes delicious!

Jammie
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: carolina girl January 26, 2009, 07:39:01 AM
I made some black bean soup a few months ago and put it in the freezer and thought it would be perfect for my candida diet that I have been on for 2 1/2 weeks.  Only to realize that i had put 2 T red wine vinegar into a 6 qt CP full of soup.  How much damage did I do today be eating a bowl full of this?  How far is this going to set me back?  What can I do now to remedy this?  Also, how long should I continue this and in what order should I start incorporating other healthy foods?, how often, etc?  Any help would be greatly appreciated!
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: freshisbest January 26, 2009, 10:06:34 AM
Here's a recipe I received from a friend today:
CANDIDA FIGHTING SALAD
Mixed Greens Salad: topped with grape fruit, feta, and fennel. Drizzled with thyme and
cardamom infused oil.

4 cups mixed greens.
1 medium grapefruit.
¼ C feta cheese. crumbled
1 fennel bulb. Quarted
or
1 avocado cubed
salt and pepper to taste
1 T olive oil

4T olive oil
1/3 C thyme leaves
2 tsp cardamom. More to taste

Brush olive oil onto fennel. Season lightly with salt and pepper. Roast on a small baking sheet at 325 until edges are slighty brown.
Blanch thyme leaves. Blend thyme, olive oil, and cardamom in a vitamix.
Combine all salad components except feta. Toss in a large bowl. Divide. Add feta. Drizzle with thyme oil.
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: carolina girl January 27, 2009, 08:30:51 AM
Today, I made "pasta salad"

Cooked spaghetti squash

chopped broccolli, bell pepper, avocado, zucchinni

mixed together with Annie's green garlic dressing and a little salt - it was quite tasty!
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: pljammie January 27, 2009, 10:06:41 AM
I've eaten tons of zucchini saute with garlic and sea salt.  I recently saw this recipe and want to try it. 

For 2 servings

2 large zucchini
600g good quality minced beef
2 small onions, thinly chopped
2 cloves garlic, crushed
fresh rosemary, fresh thyme
salt to taste
extra virgin olive oil

In a frying pan or a wok, stir fry the onion with the garlic in a little olive oil.
Add the minced beef and keep stirring well so that neither the onions nor the meat burn (but get thoroughly cooked).
Reduce the heat.

Meanwhile, cut open the zucchini in half lengthwise and delicately empty them with a spoon, making sure you keep about 1/2 inch flesh on the skin. You now have four zucchini "shells".
Thinly slice the zucchini flesh you have just been taking out and add it to the stir fry.
Add some salt and some fresh rosemary and thyme (or any herb you may fancy).

Pre-heat the oven to 350F.

Once the meat and zucchini are thoroughly cooked, remove from the heat and stuff the mixture in the zucchini shells.

Place them in an ovenproof dich and bake for 45 minutes.

Eat immediately.
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: WI Cheesehead April 09, 2009, 02:26:58 AM
I am reading the Candida Control Diet Cookbook and they say veg. glycerin is okay for a sweetener.  Has anyone heard that?  Also, what about unsweetened applesauce (maybe if I made it from granny smith?), lunch meat (I'm stumped as to what to make for my kids lunches for school.  They are pretty picky too), tapioca flour, fresh Parmesan cheese (one book said a little Swiss or mozzarella is ok).  A book said ACV is okay bcz it's supposed to fight the yeast?  I've been reading so much and I'm so discouraged.  My DD hates eggs, except for egg salad.  She can't eat that every day for a month.  Plus, I have to make my own mayo, and when I've made it with oilive oil, we didn't like it.  I'm going to try the recipe in NT, but don't have an attach. to add oil drop by drop.  I have tried a recipe using my immersion blender that came out pretty well (at least in consistency).  Would that work?  Also, do you HAVE to use extra virgin?  What about regular?  I have the stuff that doesn't taste like coconut.  Here's the mayo recipe (I would just be following the technique): http://www.recipezaar.com/Michelles-French-Mayonnaise-in-a-Flash-207690  Thanks.  I might have a bunch more in questions that I can't think of right now.  I'm reading several books, including NT and candida or wheatfree cookbooks.
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: healthyinOhio April 09, 2009, 03:03:02 AM
I am reading the Candida Control Diet Cookbook and they say veg. glycerin is okay for a sweetener.  Has anyone heard that? 

That is weird, considering it comes from corn, which is eliminated on a yeast diet.  But every book has its own opinion.  It's hard to keep up sometimes.  ;)
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: WI Cheesehead April 10, 2009, 04:14:52 PM
The glycerin can be made from corn or from coconut.  I just called the Soapmakers to find out where theirs is made, but didn't get ahold of anyone. 

I just tried making a homemade flour tortilla with 1/2 millet flour and 1/2 spelt (my recipe usu. uses all spelt).  It turned out really soft (the dough) and hard to pick up once rolled out.  Then I put it in the skillet and it turned out more like flatbread!  Couldn't bend these - they'd fall apart.  Did anyone experiment with the allowable grains to get a decent tortilla?
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: 4myhoonie September 27, 2009, 06:42:39 AM
i found this recipe for a wrap, on wholeapproach.com

http://wholeapproachforums.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/9356011311/m/1361075434

also, i got a case of this stuff from our friend who works at wildwood.  it's good and allergen free, except soy.  it won't let me cut and paste the ingredients but you can look at them on the page.

http://www.pulmuonewildwood.com/dipsauce.asp

a great replacement for mayo for the egg allergic and can be used as a dressing, etc.
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: mommie March 26, 2010, 03:22:37 PM
well, everywhere I look says something different. Maybe I'm doing this whole "cleanse" wrong and not actually helping myself a bit (which would be a real bummer!) BUT I've been eating homemade yogurt made w/ Bio-k. Sometimes I add some Frontiers ranch dressing mix to make a salad dressing for my salads I eat or to dip my broccoli in. I'm eating blender pancakes w/ coconut oil and cinnamon for breakfast (Made w/ millet/brown rice/buckwheat/oatmeal, coconut oil, yogurt, eggs, salt, baking soda and some vanilla) I use these as "bread" for sandwhiches with some almond butter for lunch/snack. I've been doing lots of quinoa. Quinoa w/ butter and some salt, garlic, etc w/ some steamed broccoli, sometimes I add some homemade tomatoe sauce YUM! I've also been eating some organic corn chips w/ homemade salsa and hummus. I've been eating homemade tomatoe sauce w/ organic ground beef. Chicken slices in my salads. homemade refried beans in fried w/ coconut oil organic corn tortillas, advocados smashed, lots of advocados. Smoothies made w/ ygourt and blueberries, whey powder  and colostrum. I'm also taking caprylic acid, eating several raw cloves of garlic a day. enzymes, garlic tabs, NO coffee :( I did have two cups over the course of the last 2 1/2 weeks that was organic and water process decaffinated.  Shouldn't I be seeing some results by now or is the fact that I'm eating whole grains (not counting carbs, just not doing simple carbs/refined sugars, fruits, etc) messing everything up??? Hmmm...anyways. I love the blender pancake idea (assuming its allowed) for "Bread" easy to have on hand snacks. You can freeze and toast whenever..
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: healthybratt April 09, 2010, 04:35:07 PM
virtually no carbs, sugar or starch and very yummy.

http://healthybratt.blogspot.com/2010/03/groovy-green-beans.html

note:  i added chopped cabbage with the onions and it's wonderful.
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Vegan Candida Diet February 03, 2011, 06:42:04 PM
Hello fellow Candida battlers. I've just read through these suggestions - thanks to everyone for the ideas! I am a vegan trying out this diet and cleansing method to see if it will help with my eczema. So far it seems to be working, but my eczema has always been annoyingly cyclical so as soon as you think it's finally gone away, that's when it sneaks right back! I've tried out some interesting recipes in the past couple weeks, but mostly I just prefer to keep it simple and eat as many steamed veggies as I can. Lots of nut butters as well, and plenty of oils (coconut, hempseed, olive). The nut butter is not as satisfying without toast to spread it on, but lately I've become a convert to eating it right out of the jar. I didn't start this diet to lose weight, but I have lost some despite the extremely heightened oil/nut intake. I've been using a lot of quinoa and amaranth in place of rice and oatmeal, and xylitol in place of sugar in my morning tea.

The sugar cravings got really bad for me recently, so I made some cookies with almond flour, xylitol, tahini, coconut oil, melted unsweetened chocolate, baking soda, vanilla, and blueberries. Not the best cookies ever, but they were pretty amazing considering they contained none of the traditional ingredients used for cookies (flour, sugar, butter, egg). Xylitol seems a little too good to be true to me. I keep reading that it's fine to use, but I'm wary. I have heard, of course, that it can act as a laxative if you're not used to it, but haven't had any problems in that department. Just a warning though! As far as cookies go, mine worked well although they are a bit crumbly, as is to be expected without any gluten. Next week I will try making some with avocado.

I am writing an informal blog about my experiences, because I have found the internet to be severely lacking in information for vegans looking into the anti-candida diet. Here's the address for anyone who might be interested: vegancandidadiet.blogspot.com
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Ruesae July 13, 2012, 04:36:31 PM
So, I've read this post at least 37 million times because we're struggling through this veggies, meat and eggs diet for a week. (I know a lot of you have done it longer!) No Fun! Mostly no fun b/c I've been so sick all week. Anyway, while reading the first page of this thread again I noticed that Millet was listed under the list of grains with gluten - but elsewhere I know (at least I think I know) it was listed as one of the 4 ok grains to eat. I'm confused - any suggestions or clarifications out there? ???
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Ruesae July 13, 2012, 04:49:54 PM
Ok so maybe the book listed millet under the wrong heading? This website says it IS gluten-free... http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/ART03185/Cooking-With-Grains-Millet.html (http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/ART03185/Cooking-With-Grains-Millet.html)
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Ruesae July 13, 2012, 04:56:10 PM
And me again! Speaking of recipes and things we can eat. Next week we're graduating to the less strict diet including nuts, the 4 acceptable grains, and maybe even some cheese! (woo hoo!) I'm hoping to find some recipes I can convert to acceptable on this site I found on grainless cooking. http://www.againstallgrain.com/ (http://www.againstallgrain.com/)
: Re: Foods to Eat While Fighting Candida
: Sewbusy July 13, 2012, 09:02:31 PM
I just recently read that millet does have gluten but in different amounts. There are several different types of plants that all  can get labeled millet. Also, gluten allergic people can often handle it. I will post the link to the article if I can find it