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: Everything About Juicers & Juicing
: Tanya in TX April 11, 2006, 11:05:36 AM
Hi ladies!
My hubby and I are considering/investigating purchasing a Vita Mix. I was wondering what are the differences/benefits of this machine versus a juicer?  I understand that the Vita Mix uses up ALL the fruit or veggie, whereas the juicer doesn't use the pulp.

What are the pros and cons either way??  How do I know for sure, HA?  A Vita Mix is a pretty expensive investment.

THANKS!
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: 4myhoonie April 11, 2006, 11:08:07 AM
i bought a juicer, but i really wish i had bought a vita mix.  it seems they are much more versitile.  just my 2 cents!  :)
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: healthybratt April 11, 2006, 12:48:13 PM
Hi ladies!
My hubby and I are considering/investigating purchasing a Vita Mix. I was wondering what are the differences/benefits of this machine versus a juicer?  I understand that the Vita Mix uses up ALL the fruit or veggie, whereas the juicer doesn't use the pulp.

What are the pros and cons either way??  How do I know for sure, HA?  A Vita Mix is a pretty expensive investment.

THANKS!

Juice without pulp loses a lot of it's nutrients and also the natural fibers that help digestion.  Taking the pulp out of the juice also increases your sugar to nutrients ratio. 

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: Maria/NHM April 11, 2006, 01:51:22 PM
My Dh bought me a Vita-mix. I love it!! I use it many times a day. It is so much more powerful than a blender. My Dh loves gravy over everything. It can be tricky to thicken gravy using whole grains but the vita mix makes it so easy. I just put everything in and turn it on. The blades turn so fast they cook the gravy and it never scorches. I wanted a Vitamix instead of a juicer because I didn't want to wast all the pulp. We love having shakes to go with breakfast and they turn out so smooth. Our favorite dessert is strawberry icecream. Four cups frozen strawberries, One cup plain yogurt and 1/4 cup raw honey. Yummy! It was very expensive but for us it's been well worth it!
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: healthybratt April 11, 2006, 04:03:01 PM
When you said "expensive" you weren't kidding  :o  would anyone have any suggestions on another similar appliance for about 1/10 the cost?  (my car cost less than that) OUCH!  :-\  Couldn't you use a food processor and accomplish the same thing  ???
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: dara April 12, 2006, 10:33:56 AM
We couldn't afford a vita-mix, in spite of being interested in one too, so we went to epinions (a web site where you can review other people's opinions about products- it's free) and looked it up. We ended up getting a Juice Lady brand blender new on e-bay for $60. It is a really powerful blender, and so far has tackled everything we've put in it, from ice for smoothies, to hummus. I haven't tried totally liquifying fruit like a juicer would, though. I can't imagine it would juice carrots.
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: healthybratt April 12, 2006, 02:42:55 PM
We couldn't afford a vita-mix, in spite of being interested in one too, so we went to epinions (a web site where you can review other people's opinions about products- it's free) and looked it up. We ended up getting a Juice Lady brand blender new on e-bay for $60. It is a really powerful blender, and so far has tackled everything we've put in it, from ice for smoothies, to hummus. I haven't tried totally liquifying fruit like a juicer would, though. I can't imagine it would juice carrots.

Wow, thanks!  I've seen those super duper food choppers on TV infomercials and I've wanted to try one.  They may be cheesy, but they sure put on a good show - even my hubby thinks so.  I don't do mail order or internet ordering much, so I've just stuck to my $10 Black and Decker food chopper and my little cheesy blender I got for a wedding gift.  Someday though... ;) 
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: Helen April 16, 2006, 03:05:28 AM
I dont personally have a vita mix but my mom used to make some killer whole wheat bread in it. theya re defintly worth it!
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: 4myhoonie April 20, 2006, 02:55:45 AM
We recently borrowed a juicer from a friend and my husband wants to buy it from her!! Fresh apple/carrot/strawberry/orange juice in the a.m.?? Talk about pleasing your man!! He's practically waiting for me at the counter salivating counting the minutes till he gets his 'morning energy drink.  My Pediatrician thinks we changed doctors because we're
hi freshisbest!  don't know if you'd like to elaborate on juicing in a new thread, but i would love more information.  i have a juicer sitting in a cupboard downstairs that i bought off ebay and never used.  it's an old Champion.  where do i start and how do you get around fruit being so expensive? my daughter loves to make smoothies, i'd love to give my kids the health benefits of juicing.   :)
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: Leah IL April 20, 2006, 12:42:11 PM
We juice greens just about every day.  My husband usually does it before work and makes enough for all of us.  He juices red leaf, green leaf and romaine lettuces, spinach, a cucumber, celery and any other greens we might have around like dandelion or swiss chard or whatever came out of the garden that week.  One thing we learned is that if you are making "green" juice, don't try to sweeten it up with fruit because it will taste YUCK!  Just go with the vegetable taste.  We actually like this stuff now, even my kids drink it with breakfast.  If someone is sick you can throw in a clove of garlic, too.
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: TruthSeeker April 20, 2006, 01:17:40 PM
I have a Breville juicer and LOVE it :P  We juice almost every morning.  We always juice carrots because they are SO good for you.  Most grocery stores sell large bags of juicing carrots for real cheap.  They are the disfigured carrots that they can't sell otherwise.  I throw in a couple of small apples (whole) to add some more flavor and then usually a pear or an orange.  There are several good juicing books out there.  Mine is called "Juicing For Life" and it gives juicing remedies for every ailment you can think of.  I don't make smoothies with my juicer ( I have a seperate smoothie maker) and I don't use the pulp (although I am told it is very good for you).

This winter season we have been the healthiest ever.  I think it's from juicing. :)  
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: healthybratt April 20, 2006, 02:20:16 PM
I think I've finally decided that the first expensive machine I buy for the sake of our health will be some kind of juice machine.  I would like to use the pulp and be able to add yogurt or possibly even ice to the mix.  Basically, I just want to dump stuff in and drink it all.  Can someone recommend a good strong juicer/mixer/whatever for less than $100 (hopefully a lot less)?
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: 4myhoonie April 20, 2006, 02:28:30 PM
my daughter and i were thinking about drinking the juice, and then putting the pulp in the blender with some kefir or yogurt, banana, etc. and then using that too.
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: TruthSeeker April 20, 2006, 06:16:59 PM
Can someone recommend a good strong juicer/mixer/whatever for less than $100 (hopefully a lot less)?

Like I said in my post we have the Breville.  It's extremely powerful.  The best part about it is you can put whole apples in it (no chopping, yeah!) :)  Yum Yum We love it  :P
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: healthybratt April 20, 2006, 07:13:31 PM
Like I said in my post we have the Breville.  It's extremely powerful.  The best part about it is you can put whole apples in it (no chopping, yeah!) :)  Yum Yum We love it  :P

Whole apples sounds awesome.  I looked it up though and it was $150+.  I guess that's way cheaper than the vitamix, but...I'm just not sure I want to spend that much  :-\ 

Have you tried chopping anything else?  If I'm going to get hubby to pay that much, it better do more than chop apples  ;D  My test subjects would be grains, coffee beans and ginger root (almost impossible to chop in my processor because of the root strings).
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: TruthSeeker April 21, 2006, 06:50:45 AM
Have you tried chopping anything else?  If I'm going to get hubby to pay that much, it better do more than chop apples  ;D  My test subjects would be grains, coffee beans and ginger root (almost impossible to chop in my processor because of the root strings).
Wow, I never thought of running coffee beans or grains through the juicer. I have stuck to fruits, veggies, and fresh herbs :)
I got mine at our local Gottschalks store on sale for $99.99.  I see www.Gottschalks.com has them on sale for $129.99.  I found a few new ones on Ebay.  The best was item#4456294982 right now for $70.00 plus $15.00 shipping.  It has 2 days 8 hours left on the auction.  It is brand new but does not come in the original box.  Check it out.  It's worth the money ;)
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: TruthSeeker April 21, 2006, 06:52:47 AM
Oops!  I forgot to mention there are a couple Breville juicers out there.  Mine is the JE900  :)
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: dara April 21, 2006, 08:17:36 AM
I have heard the suggestion of putting up a Wanted notice for juicers at your local health food store. A lot of people buy them and never use them, and would be glad to get rid of them.
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: Gabriel Anast April 21, 2006, 07:13:42 PM
This will not help at all in the "cheap" department, but another alternative to VitaMix is BlendTec (http://www.blendtec.com/default.aspx).

Wow, these are great... wow, they are expensive too!

--gabe
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: joyful_mommy_03 July 21, 2006, 02:56:31 PM
Hi all!  Just wondering what the benefit of jucing is as opposed to eating raw fruits and veggies whole. 

I was researching a juicer because I just discovered that, if it's in juice form, my daughter will actually get her veggies!!!!  She has been eating primarily bread and cheese and, of course, chocolate and sweets of any kind.  But, Daddy pulled out a glass of tomato juice and she tasted and loved it!  Hurray!  The main reason I would get one is to give her the servings of fruits and veggies that she needs, but buying V8 may be a cheaper alternative.
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: Kansas Girl July 21, 2006, 03:17:52 PM
My kids enjoyed V8 when they got a sample at Sam's  (We love going to Sam's and eating all of the wonderful samples  ;D)  V8 has a high sodium content  Juicing your own would allow you to control the sodium level and use natural salt. 
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: Pennie July 21, 2006, 04:37:09 PM
WEll, I don't know how to put a link in here from another website so....mercola has a comparison table of juicers.  I have the omega 8005.  It is 259 however I think I paid 234 from another website than his.  probly the omega site but if you go to www.mercola.com and then just type omega 8005 juicer in the search it will bring up the comparison table.  The only think I don't like about mine is that you do have to cut things up b/c it is a small hole for the juice but they say something like small pieces juice better.  Mine juices and I can mush up frozen fruit, grind coffee beans make my own nut butters and it even has things that you can do your own pasta.  Not that I have made all that stuff but it is available.  You could grind your own wheat too but I think it would be time consuming.  Just thought I would throw this out there if anyone is interested. Sorry I don't know how to make the link here, that would be easier for you but I don't know how.  Maybe SOMEONE can enlighten me.....HB  :D
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: healthybratt July 21, 2006, 07:24:08 PM
Maybe SOMEONE can enlighten me.....HB

cut and paste the url into your post.  then highlight it with the cursor and click on the little globe button (insert hyperlink).

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: stevia mama July 23, 2006, 07:54:12 PM
I bought a Breville juicer (my first one) and really like it.  I also purchased it from Gottschalk's for $99.  Although, I am now using my blender much more to make green smoothies.  Juicing is good, but you need the fiber from the pulp.  That's why I blend leafy greens (usually spinach) and fruit together (very tasty) daily and then maybe juice once a week (my hubby juices more than I do-he likes carrots and apples together).  Can anyone recommend a good glass blender that's not too pricey- maybe around $100 or less)?  I haven't bought a blender in years, so I have no idea what a good one costs!?!?
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: Nickole August 07, 2006, 05:12:41 PM
I got my Vita Mix off ebay and I do like it.  We did make veggies shakes from it but haven't in a while, which I really need to again before my kids lose their taste for green slime.  :P  It was quite thick but they "liked" it.  I really need to start that again.  We use it for "ice cream" (kefir/fruit/vanilla/honey) and fruit shakes.  Also to grind grain for the five-grain breakfast porridge in Nourishing Traditions.  I THOUGHT I could use it for a grain grinder too, but NOOOOO - it does not grind grains fine enough for breadmaking.  If anyone else had better luck PLEASE let me know.  Anyway, I really need to look at the multipage manual (more like book) more (it's been years since I got it, sheesh) to explore the possibilities of this machine.  Oh, as a bonus, it looks really cool on your counter!  8)  Everyone always asks about it.

Follow up - I thought it ground grain too coarse, but nope - I grind my grain in it all the time and make GREAT bread!

Smoothies ARE sOOOOOOO smooth....

Be sure and take apart the spout to clean it every time - or else it gets really gross.

Nickole       
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: Pennie August 08, 2006, 03:56:26 AM
I have the omega 8005 that mercola recommends.  It is pretty versatile as far as it will juice and grind things.  Mercola doesn't recommend juicing carrots at all but he does say he adds his pulp back in after juicing.  He said you can start by adding it in a little each time until you get used to it and eventually you are eating your juice.  Doesn't sound tooo appetizing but good for you I guess.  It will mush frozen fruit too.  I have a hamilton beach blender/smoothie maker.  It's purty powr'ful.   :)  It does chop frozen food and I have chopped walnuts in it.  It does say you can make anything from baby food to grinding coffee.  However for chopping veggies(raw)it does recommend putting water in it so I dont' know if it would make "juice"  It was about 60 bucks I think. 
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: Sonja August 08, 2006, 05:26:13 AM
I had been wanting a Vita-Mix for about 4 years.  We go to our local state fair nearly every year where they have a demo booth up.  We would stand and watch in amazement and then get to sample the yummies.  Well, last year my hubby bought me one at the fair!  I was so blessed.  We use it often.  Here's my list:  soup, smoothies, ice cream, peanut butter (often), waffles, pancakes, muffins, grinding wheat (good enough for things like muffins, etc....and was okay, in a pinch, for bread), salsa (YUMMY! :) ), guacamole, chopping veggies.  Oh we've also made something more like a juice, but I like lots of ice in it.  I just put all kinds of whole fruits in it with a bit of water and ice.  Just plop a whole apple in, seeds and all, minus the stem.  I think I also added grapes, orange, and I can't remember what else.

We live near a Costco and they will periodically have a demo booth there.  I'm at Costco nearly every week or at least every other week.  Anyway, I love it when they have a booth there because I can just stand and watch for new ideas.  If it's not busy, I even get to talk to the salesman to get tips, etc.  I've had mine for almost a year.  The fair is coming up again and I'm sure we'll watch for a bit to get new ideas.  Can you tell I just love my Vita-Mix?!! :P

Love, Sonja
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: TomatoMom August 08, 2006, 06:14:39 AM
Why don't you use your vita mixer on bread?  Is that why my bread doesn't do too well?  I do wish it ground the flour finer, but it is all I have.  We bought used on ebay, and that made it more affordable!
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: healthybratt August 08, 2006, 07:23:30 AM
My Dh bought me a Vita-mix. I love it!! I use it many times a day. It is so much more powerful than a blender. My Dh loves gravy over everything. It can be tricky to thicken gravy using whole grains but the vita mix makes it so easy. I just put everything in and turn it on. The blades turn so fast they cook the gravy and it never scorches. I wanted a Vitamix instead of a juicer because I didn't want to wast all the pulp. We love having shakes to go with breakfast and they turn out so smooth. Our favorite dessert is strawberry icecream. Four cups frozen strawberries, One cup plain yogurt and 1/4 cup raw honey. Yummy! It was very expensive but for us it's been well worth it!

Does it have some kind of heat setting.  How can you claim it moves fast enough to cook something from the friction, but be able to make ice cream as well.  I'm confused.
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: o2bhealthy August 08, 2006, 09:22:55 AM
I have a Vita-Mix and it is the one appliance that I use the most. In regards to the doing cold ice cream and hot soup, it is the speed of blending.   I have done soups, they turn out great. Because I don't want to wait for my blender to heat it to almost boiling by waiting while it is blending on high speed, I add hot water from the kettle, then it takes seconds or 1-2 minutes. This is using the same blender to do both hot and cold. The speed of the blending causes the friction which produces the heat and it gets hot.

In regards to the grinding wheat, one has to use the dry canister as the blade is different and blends in a different direction. I have found that when I put my wheat berries in "frozen" like stored in a bag in the freezer, that it grinds my grain much better. I am satisfied with it for making bread but not when it comes to baking, just isn't fine enough. I don't notice a difference in my bread though at all.

Happy blending, Heidi
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: healthybratt August 08, 2006, 10:02:34 AM
I am satisfied with it for making bread but not when it comes to baking, just isn't fine enough. I don't notice a difference in my bread though at all.

Could you clarify what you mean? 
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: YoopreMama August 08, 2006, 10:15:21 AM
I have the same dry canister and it grinds very well.  I also use my berries frozen and have used it to knead the dough successfully.  I do it by hand now since I "soak" the dough overnight.  Our whole grain bread isn't coarse or gritty at all.  Soaking does contribute to that, but even before I read about that in NT, my loaves were fluffy.  I use my Vita-Mix for so many of the things listed, too.  Blender pancakes and muffins turn out well, too.
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: Maria/NHM August 08, 2006, 10:20:08 AM
My Dh bought me a Vita-mix. I love it!! I use it many times a day. It is so much more powerful than a blender. My Dh loves gravy over everything. It can be tricky to thicken gravy using whole grains but the vita mix makes it so easy. I just put everything in and turn it on. The blades turn so fast they cook the gravy and it never scorches. I wanted a Vitamix instead of a juicer because I didn't want to wast all the pulp. We love having shakes to go with breakfast and they turn out so smooth. Our favorite dessert is strawberry icecream. Four cups frozen strawberries, One cup plain yogurt and 1/4 cup raw honey. Yummy! It was very expensive but for us it's been well worth it!

Does it have some kind of heat setting.  How can you claim it moves fast enough to cook something from the friction, but be able to make ice cream as well.  I'm confused.

The blades turn fast enough that they cause alot of heat from friction. It will boil water although usually when you make soups or gravy you start with hot water or milk to speed up the process. To make icecream you use frozen fruit or icecubes and don't process as long. It makes more of a soft serve icecream.

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: healthybratt August 08, 2006, 12:54:46 PM
dh of migratingoose,

Thank you for that somewhat lengthy and very technical explanation.  It was very informative.   ;D
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: ahsmom3x August 08, 2006, 02:23:27 PM
We have had a Vita-Mix for about 3 years. It was worth the many months of saving for one and then waiting until we went to the State Fair, where we got a great deal, with a few things thrown in. We also paid extra for a DRY container, so that we could grind grain in it for making bread. This has been well worth it.

There is one thing I do not like about it. I find it hard to get all my goodies out of it. For instance, when I make Oat Blender Pancakes in it or Brown Rice Waffle batter, not all of the batter comes out, it's hard to scrape the bottom of it clean. If the item is thicker, it can be a pain. This is a minor detail though, for all the good stuff it has helped me produce for my family.

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: Nickole August 21, 2006, 03:43:35 PM
Does anyone have the stainless steal 3600 model?  That's what I have and apparently "back then" (WAY back then according to the clothing and hair style of the girl in the book it came with) it did not have a wet and dry canister/pitcher/whatever.  SOO it says it will grind grain and although I use it to grind beans and grains and such to make porridge I ground flour once to make the sourdough bread in NT and the bread was hard as a rock.  I thought it was because the flour wasn't very fine, but someone just told me lately that that would have nothing to do with the bread being hard.  Has anyone had success making sourdough with flour ground in the VitaMix?  I just bought 350 pounds of grain and I am really hoping that maybe I don't need to buy a grinder after all!  (Even though the VitaMix sounds like a jet)

Follow up - grinds grain just fine!  YAY!!!!

I only have one canister.

You can get it on ebay - that's where I got mine!  Under $200 with shipping I remember.  Used.
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: strawberrypeach August 22, 2006, 07:55:55 AM
Okay, I need any and all information you can give me about juicers. Our family would like to get one, but we don't know much about them. If you could tell me what brand you have, what you like/don't like about it, things/combinations your family likes to make with it, and any other information that you can give, it would be very helpful! There are so many options out there, we aren't quite where to start looking! :)
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: born-an-okie August 22, 2006, 08:58:46 AM
My husband would answer this better, but he isn't back from his deployment yet.  We bought a juicer earlier this year.  My husband did all of the research on it, as he was planning to do a juice fast.  We ended up buying a centrifugal juicer, but a higher end one.  It is a Breville 800 class juicer.  This type of juicer is said to not do leafy vegetables very well.  Though the results with leafy things are not as good as with other things, I think it does pretty good.  I haven't used it much since he left, though I should.  I can tell you that a little fresh garlic goes a long way, and the same goes for hot peppers.  ;D  I've never used any other kind of juicer, so I don't have anything to compare our to.  It is easy to clean, though much more so if it is cleaned right after using instead of waiting.  There are certainly a lot of cheaper centrifugal juicers, but I don't know if they would work as well as this one.  ???

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: healthybratt August 23, 2006, 04:56:29 AM
My husband would answer this better, but he isn't back from his deployment yet.  We bought a juicer earlier this year.  My husband did all of the research on it, as he was planning to do a juice fast.  We ended up buying a centrifugal juicer, but a higher end one.  It is a Breville 800 class juicer.  This type of juicer is said to not do leafy vegetables very well.  Though the results with leafy things are not as good as with other things, I think it does pretty good.  I haven't used it much since he left, though I should.  I can tell you that a little fresh garlic goes a long way, and the same goes for hot peppers.  ;D  I've never used any other kind of juicer, so I don't have anything to compare our to.  It is easy to clean, though much more so if it is cleaned right after using instead of waiting.  There are certainly a lot of cheaper centrifugal juicers, but I don't know if they would work as well as this one.  ???



Check the thread:  Vitamix vs Juicers (http://welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,153.0.html)
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: IMPersuadd August 23, 2006, 06:01:52 AM
We have a Champion commercial model.  It is my second Champion - the first was a regular home model and worked just fine but I loaned it to a friend who decided to keep it and gave us the money to replace it.  When I did, I upgraded, not so much cuz I need the extra power but I figured the bigger model would last longer and handle the juicing better.  And they have new colors now.  :-)

I like them.  Yes, you lose some pulp but we prefer it that way.  The pulp we lose is very dry, so I know we are getting a vast majority of the liquid and personally for my whole family, drinking juice that had all that thick pulp left in it would not be as appetizing and we would probably "give up".  So, while there may be some health advantage to having the pulp, I figure since we like this juice and will drink it daily, that is better than getting frustrated and stopping.

I also found that the Champion was a good quality for a decent price - we just could not justify the cost of the more expensive juicers or vitamix.  And I haven't found anything yet it can't do and checked some consumer reports and it seems to rate well compared to even the more expensive juicers.

That's my experience.  :-)
Lori
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: mexmarr August 23, 2006, 06:06:27 AM
I also think that a champion would be the way to go.  It is a great juicer and really extracts your juice!  Personally, I have a green star juicer.  It is the top of the line and cost $400.  We spent that much because we wanted it for medicional reasons to help my blind daughters eyes.  The champion was our second choice, but costs less than half, so it is a much better choice for the average family 8).   We did a lot of study, and decided that the green star and Champion would be our only options. 
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: Pennie August 23, 2006, 06:10:18 AM
I have an omega 5008, It hink it's 5000. anyway.  It does other stuff besides juice.  www.mercola.com has a price comparison table on juicers.  course this is the one he endorses......he also recommends putting the pulp back in the juice.  I did that the other day was kinda like soup. I put a tblsp of coconut oil in it too and put it in a pretty glass.  ;D Wasn't too bad. Course it was carrot which he doesn't recommend.  The only draw about this one I would say is you do have to cut most stuff up pretty small but it does do citrus which I really do like. (grapefruit)it will grind wheat and coffe beans and frozen fruit and it will do the grass. it also extruds pasta dough.  haven't done all of that.  I also found mine cheaper than ordering on his website.  HTH
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: Isaacsmama August 28, 2006, 04:07:43 PM
I have a juiceman juicer. I really like it.  I guess it doesnt have all the bells and whistles the big name models have, but it works great for me.  The only think that might be a con about is the metal part inside that grinds and separates is a pain to clean if you dont have a bristle scrubber brush.  Thats my 2 cents.
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: strawberrypeach September 02, 2006, 11:19:01 AM
Thank you all so much for your replies! Keep them coming!

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: TruthSeeker September 03, 2006, 06:45:29 PM
I also have a Breville.  I love it because you don't have to cut up hardly anything.  It takes whole apples (the small ones) :o :o :o  It is very powerful and cost about $150.00.  I got mine at our local Gottschalks store, but you can buy them on their online store also.  We juice carrots every morning.  We add an apple or two to add flavor.  Yes, rinse the machine right after using it or it is more difficult to clean.  That's the only bummer about the juicer.  It is big and a pain to clean every morning.  Also, we don't juice our citrus peels.  Yuck!  We tried a whole orange without peeling it and it was disgusting! :-\
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: mommyoftwins October 11, 2006, 11:46:03 AM
All of you who grind flour in the Vita-mix:

Do you have a Professional Series or the Home Blender (like Turboblend)? I have the Turboblend & cannot find in the manual whether it can handle grains.
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: mexmarr October 11, 2006, 11:52:07 AM
(Even though the VitaMix sounds like a jet)

Then again, so does my wheat grinder...
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: ShabbyChic October 12, 2006, 10:05:17 AM
When my husband and I got married we lived with his folks for 6 mos.  They had a vitamix and I think everything that comes out of that machine tastes like heaven.  We'd come home and throw in a few pieces of vegetables and out would pop this warm smooth soup.  We'd wake up and throw in a few fruits and yogurt and out would come these cool smoothies.  SMOOTH.  It was the best.  Of course we cannot afford one and found a Betty Crocker juicer for free and it, um, it was found lacking...

If you have the money, go with the vitamix.  You get what you pay for.  My husband's parents said they bought it when Pete was little so they've had theirs for 30 years.  They have the stainless steel cup, although I think they come with lexan cups (pitchers) now.
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: Gabriel Anast October 12, 2006, 10:20:13 AM
BlendTec's are also really, really great... and expensive. Sometimes you can find commercial BlendTec's on ebay.com for $200... which, amazingly, is a good price.

http://www.blendtec.com/

--gabe

...oh, I already mentioned Blend Tec in this thread... oops.
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: Nickole October 12, 2006, 12:05:32 PM
I personally would recommend an older stainless steel model like I have.  I think it is safer than the lexan - I'd be a little worried since things heat up VERY hot in that machine, that the chemicals in the plastic would leach into the food.  I have a pitcher with a spout but this older model ONLY came with that and I have the manual (more like a book) with it, which only shows one pitcher.  So this pitcher is used for grinding grain as well as smoothies and other wet stuff.  Mine is the Vita-Mix 3600 model.

I also got a Champion juicer given to me, which is great fun!     
   
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: mommyoftwins October 13, 2006, 09:23:46 AM
All of you who grind flour in the Vita-mix:

Do you have a Professional Series or the Home Blender (like Turboblend)? I have the Turboblend & cannot find in the manual whether it can handle grains.

*bump*
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: ahsmom3x October 14, 2006, 11:48:38 AM
I have been grinding grain in our vita-mix for the last three years. We have the 5000 model. We also were told to buy the dry-container. The blades are different than the wet. When we bought it 5 years ago, we weren't offered a stainless steel pitcher. Keep in mind that although the vita-mix does a great job of grinding grain, it doesn't come out to be fine flour. It's a bit more "grainy". It's fine for making bread though and anything else you want to make. I always pre-sift my flour before putting it in my batter, in the event something didn't completely grind. I recently bought a Nurtimill, which grinds my grain to a fine flour.
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: mommyoftwins October 14, 2006, 03:21:43 PM
I have been grinding grain in our vita-mix for the last three years. We have the 5000 model. We also were told to buy the dry-container. The blades are different than the wet. When we bought it 5 years ago, we weren't offered a stainless steel pitcher. Keep in mind that although the vita-mix does a great job of grinding grain, it doesn't come out to be fine flour. It's a bit more "grainy". It's fine for making bread though and anything else you want to make. I always pre-sift my flour before putting it in my batter, in the event something didn't completely grind. I recently bought a Nurtimill, which grinds my grain to a fine flour.

Thanks! I guess I'll probably need to put that on my list of things to purchase. I would like to have the versatility of a mill.
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: Nickole October 16, 2006, 05:25:34 PM
I have been grinding grain in our vita-mix for the last three years. We have the 5000 model. We also were told to buy the dry-container. The blades are different than the wet. When we bought it 5 years ago, we weren't offered a stainless steel pitcher. Keep in mind that although the vita-mix does a great job of grinding grain, it doesn't come out to be fine flour. It's a bit more "grainy". It's fine for making bread though and anything else you want to make. I always pre-sift my flour before putting it in my batter, in the event something didn't completely grind. I recently bought a Nurtimill, which grinds my grain to a fine flour.

I thought it seemed more coarse too but then I brought the flour to a friend who has an excellent, expensive Magic Mill to compare, and it was comparable.  I was wondering why it wasn't as fine as store-bought flour, but apparently freshly ground won't be.  I follow the directions to a T and the flour works great!
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: PMESguy October 17, 2006, 06:39:09 PM
A juicer like the Omega 8005 uses a low rpm auger to slowly extract the juice. The benefit of this is that it works like your teeth to chew the fiber down. Therefore the enzymatic content as well as the nutrients are not rapidly oxidized. This is a completely different animal than a high speed blender.
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: kentuckymommy October 21, 2006, 05:25:04 PM
Hi there! I have a juicer and vita-mix. The juicer is a champion from ebay and we bought our vitamix from a friend when their family went on the mission field to Mexico/ South Texas in their bus! So both were outstanding deals! I love my juicer for nut butters and  veggie juices, sometimes I add back the pulp. BUT....my most loved appliance is my Vitamix! ( I also love my food processor- the vitamix pulverizes the veggies when I want to make salsas and such!) I use my vitamix everyday! Seriously!!! I use it for guacamole, nut stuffers(tacoey filling from th Rejuvenate Your Life Cookbook), ice creams from fruit, homemade condiments, and also my chunkier nut butters. Hope that helps!
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: westernmama November 28, 2006, 12:57:39 PM
I am interested in buying a wheat grinder, but don't have the money right now.  I was wondering if anyone could tell me anything about the attachment that comes with the champion juicer.  I do have a champion juicer and discovered the grain attachment to buy for it is much cheaper than a whole new wheat grinder.  But, I also don't want to waste my money.  So I'd like any advice anyone could give me as far as does it grind good enough for bread and baking, how fast does it grind, would you recommend it, etc.  We have four children, ages 5 and under.  So it's not like we'd be going through a loaf of bread at every meal.  ;)  In other words, I don't need top of the line right now.  NOW, in ten years maybe. ;D
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: ShabbyChic November 28, 2006, 01:02:56 PM
There's also a grain mill attachment for a Kitchen-Aid mixer if you have one of those (I don't but my dear friend does).  And I saw some affordable hand crank mills at villaware.com and walton feed.
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: his.silly.wife December 14, 2006, 01:39:58 PM
How long does your juice stay good?  Does it need to down fresh each time?  I would like to juice in the evenings, and then be able to just pull it out of the fridge for breakfast. 
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: mexmarr December 14, 2006, 02:13:37 PM
How long does your juice stay good?  Does it need to down fresh each time?  I would like to juice in the evenings, and then be able to just pull it out of the fridge for breakfast. 

That would be fine.  I have kept juice 2-3 days without a problem. 
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: starryiz December 29, 2006, 08:40:44 AM
I've been thinking about getting a juicer.  But all the information I find is very conflicting.  Some say juicing is very healthy, some say it is too much sugars, some say it is ok to do.  I dont know what to think.  They are pretty $$$ so I hate to buy one if it isnt really worth it.  Is there much nutritional difference between juicing and just eating raw veggies?    Has anyone that juices noticed any significant health improvements?  Also, can you juice veggies and then add the pulp back into it or use the pulp for something else?  I also worry because I dont have access to organic veggies, so is juicing still healthy if it isnt organic?  I was thinking about trying to grow some carrots indoors in big pots, but I dont know if it will work.

Thanks.
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: healthybratt January 02, 2007, 05:21:46 AM
I've been reading "Eat Fat:  Lose Fat" and according to this book, you shouldn't be eating your veggies raw.  According to the author some raw veggies are ok, but that the minerals that should be available to you in veggies will not become bio-available until the veggies are cooked.  Just thought I'd throw that out there.  I don't believe anyone else has mentioned this.
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: SagorFamily1611 April 21, 2007, 10:49:27 AM
If you don't eat your veggies raw then you wont get the vitamins you need from them and will have to supplement with pills, I would MUCH rather eat the veggies raw, the way God intended then to cook them and have to take vitamins.

My husband bought me a new juicer two days ago and I love it! It is aJack La'Lannes Powerjuicer and I have used it probably 10 times already since he bought it! I have also defiantly noticed a difference since I am drinking so much more juice, and in essence eating more veggies and fruit like carrot apple and also I other veggies. I am more regular for bowel movements and I have a lot more energy.

Our old juicer was actually a borrowed one and was a "top brand" I forget which brand, I never used it because there was SO many parts and it took 45 minutes to clean! My new one only takes a quick rinsing of all the parts, and the last time I use it for the day I wash it in soapy water. The only thing I don't like about it is that it is made out of white plastic and already the carrots have made a very orange stain in the plastic.

We got our juicer 10% off at Bed Bath & Beyond for $89.00. We weren't sure at the time if it would be worth the money, but it has more than proven itself to be worthy. They are regularly $99.00
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: Leah IL May 29, 2007, 03:09:36 AM
Has anyone ever frozen their vegetable juice?  As I mentioned on page one of this thread, we juice greens almost every day (I have an omega and love it) but now we've got all our lettuce and spinach from the garden and it's just TOO MUCH TO EAT lol  So I was thinking I could juice it and then freeze the juice in ice cube trays or something.  Do you think this would compromise the nutrients in the juice?  And I wonder if I should blanch it first.  Hmmm...maybe I will post this in the food preserving thread, too, if there is one.
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: SC June 20, 2007, 04:36:38 PM
I've been looking at juicers lately.

I made the mistake of purchasing a juicer a while back thinking that I'd get a cheap model and see if we liked it. It made about 3 times the mess for the amount of juice I received. The thing was so noisy, the dog would run and hide in the other room, whining until it finished. It wasn't easy to clean, the plastic was easily stained, there were too many parts and none of it was dishwasher safe. In addition, instead of getting fresh juice, it created enough friction that it warmed the food. I always felt as though I was losing the nutritional benefit of the pulp and the juice wasn't as fresh after being warmed. It was a centrifugal juicer. I ended up giving it away.

Centrifugal juicers spin at high speeds and during the spinning motion, the vegetables that you have shoved down the chute and ground to a pulp. The spinning motion then forces the juice away from the pulp and into a cup or bowl. These juicers are often not as good at juicing leafy green vegetables. Depending on the model and its speed, a lot of juice can be left in the discarded pulp.

Masticating juicers operate using a different process. A masticating juicer grinds vegetables and mashes out the juice out of the food. Since a masticating juicer works at low speeds and with no spinning action, it tends to juice many vegetables more efficiently -- especially green, leafy vegetables. Because it is more efficient at removing juice from the pulp, a masticating juicer often requires less food to make an equal amount of juice as a centrifugal juicer. Because of its squeezing action, some masticating juicers can be used to make pasta and/or nut butters. Masticating juicers are also handy for making baby foods.

I also checked to see about ease of cleaning. Masticating juicers come in hand-cranked and automatic (electric) models. Centrifugal juicers are motorized only (as far as I could tell). I also noticed that masticating juicers had fewer parts, cost about $50 on average (for the hand cranked models) and were MUCH easier to maintain and clean. While the centrifugal juicers (depending on the model) were powerful enough to take a whole apple or other fruit -- rind and all -- and make quick work of the job, masticating juicers got more juice per pound of produce and required you to do a bit of slicing to feed the produce into the chute. Both types of juicers seemed to be able to handle rinds and such -- even carrots and other hard vegetables -- you just needed to know in what form your machine could receive these items.

So, for now, I think we will try a masticating model. I'll let you know how that goes.  :-\
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: naewood June 21, 2007, 05:21:21 AM
SC,
I just wanted to give you my opinion on the Green Life Juicer.  I have had mine for about 5 years.  I use to use it every day.  We went through a time where we did the Hallelujah diet.  It grinds everything and makes wonderful juice.  I also like the fact that you can change the heads and make different things.  One thing that my family likes is to use the blank head and put dates in the juicer.  It comes out in a long glob.  You take pieces of that and you can ad chopped nuts if you like or just the way it is.  Roll into balls and roll in shredded coconut for a sweet treat that is good for you. 

I don't juice much anymore.  Too much work with everything else to do.  The juicer does get stained on the inside rather quickly, and is somewhat bothersome to clean.  No dishwasher parts. 

I did use it awhile back for a friend.  Her son has been diagnosed with Ulcerative Colitis and wasn't able to keep anything in him.  It was going through as fast as he ate.  I recommended juicing for him and so we started with carrot/apple/spinach and cabbage juice.  They did this for a week and he has improved much.  He has now gone into remission and is trying different foods to see what foods trigger his UC.  Anyway, just wanted to give you some input from someone who use to juice daily.  And by the way, I felt my best health wise when I did juice.  This juicer is more expensive but well worth the money you spend.  My is still working great after all these years!

PS:  SC, I really want to thank you for recommending Reclaiming Surrendered Ground to me last year!  I read that book and have gleaned so much from it.  I have been set free in so many areas!  Praise the Lord!  I am passing it along to all my friends.  Thanks! Renae
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: SC June 21, 2007, 05:50:14 AM
Great naewood!
I'm assuming that the Green Life is a masticating juicer?

For now, we've gone with the HealthyJuicer -- a manual masticating model. It hasn't arrived yet, so I can't offer any reviews. We'll see.

PS:  SC, I really want to thank you for recommending Reclaiming Surrendered Ground to me last year!  I read that book and have gleaned so much from it.  I have been set free in so many areas!  Praise the Lord!  I am passing it along to all my friends.  Thanks! Renae

Welcome! You can thank Gabe & Forevergirl. I saw their recommendation online and got my copy.  8)
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: Pennie July 21, 2007, 01:36:57 PM
I have a juice "recipe" for a flush and it says to use beets including the tops.  Well, I didn't have much to choose from from walmart and the tops are nasty looking not fresh.  It is for a kidney flush.  I'm mad at myself for not just getting them at the HFS but I didn't want to go back.  SO I have never bought "fresh"(they don't look that fresh)beets in my life.  Am I supposed to peel them b/f I juice them or jsut wash them really well?  TIA
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: cecac July 22, 2007, 10:33:53 AM
Hello Pennie,

I have a Green Power and used to juice a ton.  Don't anymore, but I can give you an opinion on those beet skins.

I personally think, though it would take time, you might want to remove skins for the taste.  I noticed that skinning did improve taste of veggies.  There can almost be a "bitter" edge with the skins in tact.  But, on the other hand, if the veggies are well washed, I don't think it'll hurt you, especially if they are organic.

If not organic, removing the skins would maybe remove some chemical residue?  That's another thought.

P.S. to SC:  I believe the Green Life is the newer Green Power.  These are not masticating.  They squeeze juice out of gears.  One of the health benefits, according to what I read before we bought, is the extraction of juice at low temps.  That's the truth, I mean, that there is no heat involved.  We also used the Champion, which masticates.  It did get hotter, although I'm not sure how much.  HTH. 

Blessings,
Cara
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: southmom2k July 15, 2008, 12:18:33 PM
Does anyone have a manual wheatgrass juicer? Any reviews on these? I cannot afford a vitamix or any of those...but I want to start juicing my wheatgrass.
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: southmom2k July 16, 2008, 03:21:02 AM
bump...
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: Kati*did July 16, 2008, 04:01:08 AM
I don't know anything about wheatgrass juicers except that my friend had the Healthy Juicer.  I did find an article that kind of compared/rated what they consider to be the top 3 manual wheatgrass juicers, though, and thought it might help a little.

http://www.articlesbase.com/health-articles/top-3-manual-wheatgrass-juicer-models-159114.html

And this is the blog of a "wheatgrass growing maniac" -- some posts where she  talks about what juicers she uses/has used and why.

http://growgrass.blogspot.com/search/label/juicers
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: southmom2k July 16, 2008, 10:48:06 AM
Thanks for the help! Does your friend like her healthy juicer? I am just concerned since its plastic that it might break.
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: Kati*did July 16, 2008, 11:06:59 AM
Thanks for the help! Does your friend like her healthy juicer? I am just concerned since its plastic that it might break.

She made me some wheatgrass juice at her house and told me she liked it because it was affordable and small and her place is tiny. I don't know much more, though (I haven't seen her for a while).  It's by lexan, I think, so that should be a lot tougher than regular plastic.
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: southmom2k July 16, 2008, 11:20:47 AM
Okay, thanks for your help! I appreciate it!
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: healthyinOhio August 20, 2008, 09:10:39 AM
I have a TON of extra peaches after freezing that I thought about juicing the remainder to be put in the freezer. Has anyone had success with freezing homemade juice?
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: herbalmom August 20, 2008, 03:35:24 PM
Why not puree the peaches & freeze that? Then the puree could be used in drinks or made into peach sauce for deserts, etc. Or you could cook it down into peach butter. You can freeze peach butter if you don't want to can it. YUM  ;D ;D
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: healthyinOhio August 21, 2008, 09:19:08 AM
Why not puree the peaches & freeze that?

I suppose I could do that if I had a food processor. I have a very small blender and I don't think it would be that efficient to do.  Maybe I will puree some..... :-\
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: amandas5boys January 16, 2009, 03:22:15 PM
I am new to this thread, well sort of. I have been reading it for a couple of months now and it has helped me a lot. I have some skin problems and have been doing some cleanses. I have done:

parasites
colon/liver gallbladder
water cleanse (doing now)

I am in the process of doing a juicing cleanse and was wandering if bananas should not be used in this. I started out the cleanse with eating just fruits and veggies. Then decided yesterday (because I was feeling very bad with migraine) to juice the veggies and fruit. This morning I thought I would blend up banana with full bodied apple juice and frozen blueberries (yum). I had not even drank half of it and felt very full (uncomfortably full). Is banana ok to have when on a juicing cleanse? I thought it would be good for the bowels as I know it is dangerous not to move them during cleanses.

The reason for all the cleanse is because of rashes. I have had problems with for two years (the birth of last baby) I was told by specialist that I have cortisone damage and thought maybe this would help to get rid of the cortisone out of my body. Also my mother, grandmother, Aunt all have celiac and I am thinking I may as well. Test show negative but when gluten free I see a difference in the rash.

I am sorry if I have put a lot of things here that don't belong. I am mainly asking about the banana in a juicing diet.?

Thanks Amanda

PS. a water cleanse is a wonderful thing. Anyone wanting to do a cleanse should definitely start there. It is easy and great with helping to lose weight and cleanse the body.
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: daisey May 12, 2009, 01:21:57 PM
Has anyone heard of the Solo Star juicer or had any experience with it?   I'm researching and have read all 3 pages here.   
Am I correct in these points?   
    Mastication juicing is best
    Champion is a mastication juicer
   
Is the Green life Juicer centrifugal or masticating?   How about the Breville?
Any one know?   Thanks for all the info.
: Re: Everything About Juicers & Juicing
: T February 17, 2010, 09:22:20 AM
Anyone used or own the Hurom or Omega VRT juicers?  They sound wonderful but I'm torn between one of those and a Vitamix.  I just don't know which one is the way to go.  Of course...I'll have to save for either one for a while...
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: daisey February 18, 2010, 09:18:04 AM
Anyone used or own the Hurom or Omega VRT juicers?  They sound wonderful but I'm torn between one of those and a Vitamix.  I just don't know which one is the way to go.  Of course...I'll have to save for either one for a while...
I have an Omega 8005...............I really like it.   It is quiet, does a good job of juicing and it doesn't get hot.  It can juice wheat grass plus there are attachments so you can make pasta etc.   I haven't had it all that long so I don't know about durability yet.