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: Health Challenged Husbands: Winning Hubby Over to a Healthier Way of Life
: MamaD November 19, 2006, 03:54:36 PM
I have shared much information with my husband about the dangers and bad effects of artificial sweeteners and he still drinks it daily, except for Sunday.  He does drink more water than he used to and eats well, but thinks diet is better because it "saves" calories.  I think I have shared just about all the statistics and potential side effects that he cares to hear , but don't want to give up trying to convince him to quit.  Any advice or shared experiences would be great!
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: Simply Kristen November 19, 2006, 03:58:57 PM
http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,3539.0.html

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: healthybratt November 19, 2006, 04:02:30 PM
Don't try to convince him.  It won't work.  Instead provide him with alternatives.  I got my hubby to "almost" stop drinking sodas by introducing him to Kombucha (http://welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,832.0.html).  It's a healthy carbonated drink with a nice tang.  My hubby now drinks about 1/8 of the soda that he used to.
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: SC November 19, 2006, 04:06:54 PM
I have shared much information with my husband about the dangers and bad effects of artificial sweeteners and he still drinks it daily, except for Sunday.  He does drink more water than he used to and eats well, but thinks diet is better because it "saves" calories.  I think I have shared just about all the statistics and potential side effects that he cares to hear , but don't want to give up trying to convince him to quit.  Any advice or shared experiences would be great!

Congratulations, you've married a man that will not be nagged or manipulated. He's a REAL man! Just like mine  ;D. That's the good news.

The bad news is that by "sharing" so much information with him, unasked, you've probably given him reason to dig in his heels and prove that he won't be swayed.

The good news is that the easiest way to end a tug of war is to put down the rope. You set the example. Stop the eye rolling (I know, I used to use those same tactics) and raised eyebrows. Quit trying to convince him that it is a choice between the "right" way and the "wrong" way. When he sees the difference in your wellbeing (and isn't pressured), he may decide to try it.

Also, I would look into making some fizzy drinks with kefir and kombucha. They really are delicious and they are health drinks. Even if he doesn't drink them, you'll benefit. My kids LOVE them.

And, if he never changes, dropping the subject will make your remaining years much more sweet, with more laughter, love and joy. 8)
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: MamaD November 20, 2006, 03:07:26 AM
SC, Wow....OK, OK  I'll put down my rope.  You definitely helped me see what I am doing at least in attitude.  I am so thankful that I have a real man and he definitely does not want to be told what he "can" do.  I can see now that what I have said even if in a sweet way is still nagging.  He is a great guy and I do want the best for him :).  We have smoothies everyday for lunch, made with Lifeway Kefir.  I am not quite ready to make my own kefir or kombucha, but I am reading along to get all the tips as they are posted here. I am learning so much here.

Thanks for the help ladies!
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: PMESguy November 20, 2006, 07:51:22 AM
Well, I my opinion you should support your husband in whatever choices he makes. He doesn't knowingly/on purpose make bad decisions does he? If not, then it sounds like he just doesn't know better.

Everyone learns at their own speeds. Some people are jump start learners and are easly swayed with facts. If he's this type, then a little knowlege can go a long way. All it took for one of my clients was when I shared with her that aspartame seperates into methanol (wood grain alcohol) and formeldahyde (embalming fluid) at 102 degrees F. That was it for her!! Has never taken a sip since.

Others change very slowly. The most important duty on your part, in my opinion, is to hold them accountable for their actions. Don't play into their weaknesses....because that may just be how they have gotten to where they are now. Empower and support him. Balance emotion and logic to turn them on. If he truely has a death wish, then that has nothing to do with you....I'm sorry to say.

Rather than killing the addiction, maybe he could switch to something else instead. Try water, it's cheaper and harmless.

Which ever route you take, good luck.
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: oneblessedwoman January 21, 2007, 07:30:42 AM
My husband hates all vegetables.  I want him to enjoy what I cook for him, but I would also like to find some way to get some more of those nutrients into his diet.  He would love to just live off pizza  ;), but he has been willing to try new things.  Together we have found some other things that he likes, some of which have veggies in them, but straight veggie recipes that he likes right now are basically non-existent.  When I make pot roast or pork chops or steaks, I don't have any way to get veggies into the meal.   

He is allergic to legumes, so beans or peas are out of the question.  He doesn't like anything raw, so I have to find some recipes to cook them in a way that taste good to him.  I would love some help if anyone else has found ways to cook for someone that really doesn't like veggies.  I can't wait to hear your ideas  ;D
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: SC January 21, 2007, 08:14:57 AM
Get every vegetable that you wish he would eat and place them in a large stock pot. Add filtered water and 1 or 2 tbsp of apple cider vinegar. Let this sit for 30 minutes and then bring to a boil for 20 minutes. Remove from the heat and reserve the liquid. Cook his rice, potatoes, and any meats with this broth. Find a way to make a favorite soup or stew with it. Add it to anything that requires water when cooking.

I also add finely chopped vegetables to things like meatloaf, spaghetti, etc.

My dh used to hate salads as he found them too leafy and slimey. I eliminated the tomatoes and found a large variety of greens and then chopped them up to fork sized pieces. Then I figured out what his tastes were in salad dressing. He likes something creamy and a little sweet. So, I started making my own ranch dressing with a little stevia, homemade mayonnaise, kefir & etc. I would give him a very small portion at first -- so that it would look silly to complain over a forkful of salad with his meat. As he found the dressing tastey, he would go back and get seconds. Also, who says that salad can't have meat? Add some shredded chicken or minced steak to the mix and you'll have a more 'manly' dish that dh may just take a liking to.

HTH
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: healthybratt January 21, 2007, 09:08:44 AM
Also, who says that salad can't have meat? Add some shredded chicken or minced steak to the mix and you'll have a more 'manly' dish that dh may just take a liking to.

HTH
Chicken Ceasar salad is the BOMB!
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: Melie January 21, 2007, 09:25:05 AM
I'm lucky, my husband loves veggies.  He didn't used to because his mom used to steam everything until it was soggy and he only wanted veggies with sour cream on them.  I know not to let his veggies get soft and he is happy.  One thing I do though, just to get more in, is most the time when I make any ground meat dish I finely chop all sorts of veggies and just mix them right in with the meat and continue on with the recipe.  This also stretches out the meat.  Veggies that work good with this are carrots, zucchini, red peppers, onions, garlice, lots more.  I think it tastes better and kids (and some husbands :) ) are more likely to eat them because they are so small you either don't notice them or won't bother to pick them out.  I'm talking about dicing really small or grating when possible.
The other way to make awesome veggies that I think anyone would like is to roast them.  Just chop them up, mix with olive oil/butter, salt and pepper.  Roast at 450 until tender.  I love sweet potatoes, regular potatoes, red peppers, onions, garlic, carrots, turnips, parsnips, and many more mixed up and prepared this way.  It is my favorite way to make veggies.  Whatever you make ends up reminiscent of french fries, how can you go wrong with that???
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: mxmom January 21, 2007, 10:27:44 AM
Also, who says that salad can't have meat? Add some shredded chicken or minced steak to the mix and you'll have a more 'manly' dish that dh may just take a liking to.

HTH
Chicken Ceasar salad is the BOMB!


Even better when the chicken is Cajun!!
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: leslieincali January 21, 2007, 10:39:39 AM
My whole family is more likely to eat veggies, cooked or salad if they are chopped up REAL small. I use kitchen shears to cut things up. Also, they like veggies a whole lot better if I stir fry them instead of steaming. For tomatoes in salads I always seed them and chop them up into a small dice. It cuts way down on the slime factor.
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: PMESguy January 21, 2007, 10:53:08 AM
Has he ever tasted a real, farm fresh tomato? How about a carrot?

Have you ever qustioned why he doesn't like them? Could it be that the vegetables he's tried actually did taste bad?? I'm sorry, but to me conventional produce is just aweful. No flavor what so ever. Blah!!!  :( Complete waste of time and $$$.

I'd be willing to bet that if he got his hands on some high quality, fresh from the garden goodies....combined with a little tough love....he'd come around. ;)

Also, he doesn't HAVE to eat any vegetables. But, he might want to make sure he has really good health insurance because the cancer risk for men in the US is currently 50%!!!!!!!! That means he will get it, or he won't.

When Big Pharma goes looking for the next greatest cancer cure, I'd put pretty good odds on them making a discovery in a vegetable/plant of all things. Ironic, huh?? Again, tough love. :)
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: hjm January 21, 2007, 11:47:43 AM
My husband dislikes vegetables also.  When we first married he would eat none.  Now he eats some.  He told me that he did not like any veggetable but then I found there were a couple he did O.K. with. (green beans and corn) and he liked minestrone with lots of meat.  When I cooked a meal with no veggetables in it, I used one of these on the side. 

I serve a lot of soups in the winter.  I first started by including a few vegetables when I made the broth then removing them before adding meat, onions, and potatoes.  After he got used to that, I started blending some of the vegetables and adding them to the soup.  He now eats a vegetables more.  He wants our children to eat vegetables and he sees the importance of them.  If he doesn't want any at a meal he is quiet about not eating them and so far our children haven't noticed.  For the children, I often serve lots of vegetables at a meal when my husband is not there.

I did not press the issue.  He needs to be the head in our family not me, but I can talk to his head and ask for advise.  The LORD has answered in some surprising ways.  A friend of his became very ill and started eating veggetables more and mentioning there benefits to my husband.  He received a some emails from another acquaintance giving statistics on, cancer, heart disease, and other illnesses that can be helped or cured by diet.  His desire to take care of his family has prompted him to eat things that he used to not like. 

Don't expect change overnight.  Ask the LORD for advise.  Be quiet and smile whether he eats the vegetables or not!

hjm
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: oneblessedwoman January 21, 2007, 05:55:08 PM
Wow!  These are awesome ideas.   ;D  We don't have kids yet, so I don't have to worry about appearances to them at all.  My husband grew up eating veggies that came right out of the family garden, so I know that he has had good produce.  So at least those things make life a little easier.

 I will certainly try these ideas.  I really like the idea of boiling a bunch of veggies and using the water.  The best ways I have found to get nutrients into my husband's diet is when he has no idea they are present  ;)  I thankful for brown rice, whole grain pasta, and alfalfa mixed in with things.  Thanks so much for all the help.  I really appreciate all the ideas you have.
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: makingchanges January 21, 2007, 06:11:04 PM
Thanks for the ideas. It is discouraging to cook and try to be healthy and for your husband to not eat it. I pray that change is in the future. God can bring circumstances to bring changes.
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: Sunshine06 January 21, 2007, 06:34:58 PM
These ideas are great. My husband also doesn't like veggies. He'll eat lettuce, cucumbers and corn, but that's about it. He will eat carrots, celery and onions in soup, but that's all I've tried so far. I've also tried boiling veggies in water and using the broth in foods he will eat (without telling him  ;)). I've also learned not to pressure him or "trick" him by adding veggies in without him knowing but I'm hoping that over time he'll come to see the value of them. :) Thanks for the great suggestions!
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: hjm January 21, 2007, 06:41:58 PM
My other suggestion is to be an honest "sneak".  If he says he doesn't like and item and never wants to eat it, don't force him.  He needs to be able to trust you.  Vegetables are not the focus of your relationship, nor are they worth straining it.  If he trusts you, he will be more willing to try something with a questionable vegetable in the future.  If he feels that you are always trying to trick him into eating what he does not like, he will reject more.
hjm
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: Sunshine06 January 22, 2007, 04:00:38 AM
Well said, hjm.  :)
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: makingchanges January 22, 2007, 04:27:36 AM
Yes, well said. I let my feelings get involved in the relationship. I want the cooking/veggies to be important to him too. Then I feel rejected. Thanks for the reminder. God has given us wonderful men to teach us to rely on Him and trust Him to convict our husbands.
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: ShabbyChic January 22, 2007, 04:42:56 AM
How about a b vitamin supplement?  It's not best, but it's better than nothing.  Although, it may be hard to find an all natural supplement with no legume derivatives.
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: oneblessedwoman January 23, 2007, 09:47:21 AM
Hmmmm, I hadn't thought of trying a supplement.  I will have to look into that idea.   
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: cjanderin January 23, 2007, 10:12:28 AM
Do you make home-made pizza?  Pizza can have lots of veges and still be meaty and yummy.  Capsicum cut up small is a pretty standard vegetable on pizza and it's so good for you.
The roast veges are a good idea.  Serve wedges made of potatoes, sweet potato (kumara), pumpkin, capsicum etc.  Never use just one type of vege when making the wedges and vary what you use.  Always have one of the vegetables as one that he likes (potatoes?) and then serve them with the other vege wedges as well.  Try not serving them on a plate but in a big bowl as if you are out at a restaurant or something.  And offer some yummy toppings for the wedges.
Most guys are not so fussy that they are going to pick through their veges to pull out the bits they don't like SO LONG AS the one they don't like isn't overpowering or 'ruining' the other vegetables or meal.

I don't think adding vegetables to the meal in small amounts is being sneaky unless your husband has specifically told you NOT to put vegetables in his meal. 
If he doesn't like vegetables because he doesn't like the taste then you are simply finding a way of serving meals that he does like without having the 'bad' taste of veges. 

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: oneblessedwoman January 24, 2007, 07:38:45 AM
bump  :D loving the ideas
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: SarahK January 24, 2007, 10:27:54 AM
I have some that would refuse veggies if they could.  They really like fried potatoes so I make a pan of fried tatoz as 2/3 potatoes & 1/3 carrot, onion, &/or celery.  Probably would be healthier as raw veggies.... but not if no one eats them. 

Sarah K
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: healthybratt January 25, 2007, 10:30:20 AM
My MIL makes fried sweet potatoes.  ;D  They are pretty good too and I think they have all the good stuff that carrots have ???
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: oneblessedwoman January 25, 2007, 02:43:27 PM
So you just cut up celery or carrots and fry them?  Do you have to bread them?  That sounds good.  I bet my husband would like them better that way  :D
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: SarahK January 25, 2007, 03:31:07 PM
So you just cut up celery or carrots and fry them?  Do you have to bread them?  That sounds good.  I bet my husband would like them better that way  :D

I thin slice them all about the same thickness so they cook evenly... well, you know me well enough on this...

I start out slicing them all the same and by the end of the panful it's chunks.  Fry in butter til they are done or until the vultures are circling dangerously close.  And the kids would bathe them in ketchup if I let them.

Sarah K
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: here-n-there-a-little January 26, 2007, 09:09:59 AM
Just wanted to give a warning about slipping veggies in various dishes.  My mom used to do that and I HATED it!!!  I always though it made it taste disgusting. I eat vegetables now, but much prefer the vegetables 'by themselves' approach.  Maybe I was scarred as a child  ;)

However, if veggies were chopped up VERY fine... it might be different.  I am way too lazy to try doing it fine enough to slip them in with other food, myself.  Just be careful if this approach is taken, we wouldn't want to turn our husbands off further.

My husband will not eat vegetables either except for a few.  I do appreciate some of these suggestions and look forward to trying them.
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: tonysgirl January 26, 2007, 12:02:45 PM
My honey was raised on not many veggies, esp. only starchy ones like lima beans (creamed) and corn. I often make 2 veggies, something he definitely likes and something I like. The children like most anything like I do, because I make it for their lunch when he's gone, and they love it. But as time goes on, Tony is eating more of "my" veggies than his own. Just the other day he told me, "I used to think carrots were disgusting, but these are awesome!" Yeah!

Golden Carrot Coins

2 T. real butter
3/4 c. chicken broth
1 t. sugar or honey
1 t. salt
1/8 t. pepper
14 med. carrots, cut into 1/4" slices
3 T. parsley, fresh or 1 T. dried parsley
2 t. lemon juice
Melt butter. Stir in broth, honey, salt and pepper. Bring to a boil. Add carrots. Return to a boil. Reduce heat; cover and simmer 8-10 min. until carrots are crisp-tender. (NOT mushy!) Stir in parsley and lemon juice.
Yield" 6-8 servings

Amen to whoever said, fresh grown organic veggies taste so much different than the imported from who knows where stuff! If at all possible, grow your own. I still have carrots in the garden covered with hay and 6 in. snow right now. Are they ever sweet! NO chemicals either!!!!!! :)
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: SC January 26, 2007, 12:29:02 PM
I just wanted to clarify my suggestions above. They were made with the thinking that there are husbands out there who know they should be eating more vegetables and wanted the benefit of the nutrients, but just haven't yet developed the pallet to appreciate these foods. You DO have to develop your taste buds.

My methods of finely chopping vegetables and inserting them into main dishes is how I get nutrients into an undeveloped pallet. If someone is eating sugary snacks packed full of processed grains and empty calories, they just won't appreciate the subtle flavorings and variety offered in organic vegetables. Also, if you tried to feed ME a non-organic salad, I'd pass also. Vegetables aren't supposed to leave a chemical/bitter/nasty taste in your mouth. Fresh greens aren't supposed to taste like some disgusting paper. I didn't know carrot skins were sweet until I had an organic one as an adult. I always thought they were bitter.

Also, making a vegetable broth as I outlined in the previous post, is a great way to get some bioavailable nutrients into someone who can't or won't eat them in another form. You can turn this into a vegetable drink, quick soup, or use it to cook other items to increase their nutrient content. This is an effective method for those in poor/fragile health (even with feeding tubes). When a system is depleted, you can actually feel a rush of energy with the first sip. This isn't always the case with processed vitamins and supplements as an individual may lack the enzymes he/she needs to digest them.

Of course, the best way is to actually eat the vegetable, and that's my long term goal. However, to expect someone to go from ice cream and burgers to a salad lover is a bit of a leap. So, I use this method to transition someone much the same as I would move a baby from milk to solids -- slowly, one step at a time, giving them a chance to aquire a taste for the new foods.

If you get a negative response, you know you've gone too quickly or in the wrong direction. Healthy foods don't do your family a bit of good if they don't taste good enough for anyone to eat them. Just my $.02
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: oneblessedwoman January 26, 2007, 03:02:43 PM
Maybe I should clarify too.  My husband knows that I am not trying to be rebellious.  I think he kind of likes seeing what I come up with.  When we first got married I didn't know how to cook at all, so he knows that if he doesn't like something he doesn't have to eat it (and there is always a frozen pizza in the freezer, just in case the whole meal goes bad  ;)).  He gives me a teasing smile every time I try a new veggie idea like, "We'll see if you found a good one this time." 

He normally doesn't want the details of what is in each dish; if it tastes good he is happy.  But if he asks I don't hid anything.  We have certainly had some healthy mishaps that we both laughed about (imagine biscuits and gravy with spirulina in it -- turned the whole thing green  :P).  But as long as he is open to trying my new health concoctions, I am going to try them.  He is really excited about the water from boiling water idea.  He really loves anything that tastes the  same to him, but that gives his wife that happy smile of "yeah! I got nutrients into him."  I will continue to take everyone's advice and not let veggies come between me and my husband  :D   
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: DHW January 29, 2007, 06:30:57 PM
There are some great ideas posted.  My husband does not appreciate it when I try to improve on something that is fine with him the way it is.  And if two recipes are too similar he will stick with the old familiar one almost always.  Still, there's a lot of territory out there to be explored!

I have found that carrots, sweet potatoes, pumpkin, butternut squash and acorn squash substitute well for one another, especially in sweet recipes like pies and muffins.  For something a little different, how about...

Sweet Potato Cornbread
2 tbsp oil
1 cup mashed sweet potatoes
3 large eggs
1 1/2 cups milk (your choice)
1/3 cup oil
3 cups self-rising cornmeal mix

Preheat oven to 375.  Place 2 tbsp oil in skillet and heat in oven for about 10 minutes.

Meanwhile, combine potatoes, eggs and milk, mixing until smooth.  Add oil and cornmeal, stirring until just blended.

Pour into hot skillet and bake until golden brown, about 40 minutes.

Do you see how you could do something similar with biscuits?  Maybe just a 1/2 cup of pumpkin stirred in.  Adjust the spices to be savory or sweet, too.

I love to use fresh green herbs.  Herbs are nutritional powerhouses, as are spices.  One of the best ways to improve health is to use herbs and spices as often as possible.  Chives, parsley, cilantro and basil impart a fresh bright flavor, aroma and wonderful color to a dish.

Just before serving soup I like to shred a little zucchini into it and toss in the green herbs.  It's pretty.

You can also put veggies in the blender and then add them to all sorts of things, in moderate amounts.  I have a child who shudders at chunky tomato sauce, but loves the same sauce if it has been pureed.  Tastes the same, but the texture is smooth.

Last hint: halve the recipe.  If it bombs, there is less to choke down.
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: CJ February 05, 2007, 05:08:29 AM
My husband hates all vegetables.  I want him to enjoy what I cook for him, but I would also like to find some way to get some more of those nutrients into his diet.  He would love to just live off pizza  ;), but he has been willing to try new things.  Together we have found some other things that he likes, some of which have veggies in them, but straight veggie recipes that he likes right now are basically non-existent.  When I make pot roast or pork chops or steaks, I don't have any way to get veggies into the meal.   

He is allergic to legumes, so beans or peas are out of the question.  He doesn't like anything raw, so I have to find some recipes to cook them in a way that taste good to him.  I would love some help if anyone else has found ways to cook for someone that really doesn't like veggies.  I can't wait to hear your ideas  ;D
Your husband sounds a lot like my son - He didn't like anything green.  But he did like sweet potatoes, cooked carrots with glaze sauce, corn of any kind - mostly creamed and he liked cauliflower with cheese sauce.  You might want to try some of those.  GOOD LUCK!

cj
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: freshisbest February 06, 2007, 11:09:18 AM
Sweet Potato Biscuits; Carrot Bread; Zucchini Bread; "Vegie Muffins"...try the goodies first! Then do oven-browned ( roasted) cubed potatoes ( white and sweet mixed) using coconut oil and salt/pepper/ garlic and ginger if he likes those;
A quesadilla with peppers mixed in..lots of chunky chicken to mask them; Spaghetti sauce with spinach, carrots, peppers, muchrooms, all ground up in a cuisinart; All vegetable egg rolls, my kids new favorite! Of course chicken or beef inside is good too, but they are going nuts for them this week! (I bought the wrappers to make it easy this time around but plan to make my own using my pasta maker to roll them thin.)
These are the ways I got my fussy boys to get more vegies...
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: cjanderin February 11, 2007, 01:38:29 PM
Came across this preserving recipe in an old cookbook ...

How to Preserve a Husband

Be careful in your selection.  Do not choose too young.  When once selected give your entire thoughts to preparation for domestic use.  Some insist on keeping them in a pickle, others are constantly getting them in hot water.  This may make them sour, hard and sometimes bitter.  Even poor varieties may be made sweet and tender and good by garnishing them with patience, well sweetened with love and seasoned with kisses.  Wrap them in a mantle of charity.  Keep warm with a steady fire of domestic devotion and serve with peaches and cream.  Thus prepared they will keep for years.
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: Gabriel February 11, 2007, 01:43:15 PM
That is really cute!  Thanks for posting this. I am going to copy and send it to family!

In Christian love,
Gabriel
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: Pastorswife2B February 11, 2007, 02:36:43 PM
LOL that is great!
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: amazonmama2five February 11, 2007, 04:01:15 PM
That is very cute!  I have that same recipe in a church cookbook.  There is also this one:
                          Preserved Children
Take 1 large field, half a dozen children, 2 or 3 small dogs, a pinch of brook, and some pebbles.  Mix the children and dogs well together; put them on the field, stirring constantly.  Pour the brook over the pebbles; sprinkle the field with flowers; spread over all a deep blue sky; and bake in the sun.  When brown, set away to cool in the bathtub.
Author unknown
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: SarahK February 11, 2007, 04:41:15 PM
Came across this preserving recipe in an old cookbook ...

How to Preserve a Husband

Hmmm.... where is the step where you feed them chocolate?  Mine seems to require regular doses.  I guess I really did get a weird one.....

Sarah K
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: Nickole February 11, 2007, 05:08:28 PM
Came across this preserving recipe in an old cookbook ...

How to Preserve a Husband

Hmmm.... where is the step where you feed them chocolate?  Mine seems to require regular doses.  I guess I really did get a weird one.....

Sarah K

"well sweetened with love and seasoned with kisses" - there's a reference to   Hershey's right there!
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: healthybratt February 12, 2007, 06:54:27 AM
Came across this preserving recipe in an old cookbook ...

How to Preserve a Husband

Hmmm.... where is the step where you feed them chocolate?  Mine seems to require regular doses.  I guess I really did get a weird one.....

Sarah K
mine is any candy with citric or lactic acid, pretty colors and mega preservatives.   :P
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: Daniel's Cousin February 12, 2007, 07:34:17 AM
That is very cute! I have that same recipe in a church cookbook. There is also this one:
 Preserved Children
Take 1 large field, half a dozen children, 2 or 3 small dogs, a pinch of brook, and some pebbles. Mix the children and dogs well together; put them on the field, stirring constantly. Pour the brook over the pebbles; sprinkle the field with flowers; spread over all a deep blue sky; and bake in the sun. When brown, set away to cool in the bathtub.
Author unknown


 That is so sweet. I've never read that one before.  ;D
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: healthyinOhio February 12, 2007, 08:07:06 AM
Came across this preserving recipe in an old cookbook ...

How to Preserve a Husband

Be careful in your selection.  Do not choose too young. 

That is cute, Erin!  But what is too young........?  Mine is 13 months younger.  Does that mean he is geared towards "spoilage" ??  :D
Do you get my American talk?  ;D
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: Pennie February 12, 2007, 08:30:51 AM
Came across this preserving recipe in an old cookbook ...

How to Preserve a Husband

Be careful in your selection.  Do not choose too young.  When once selected give your entire thoughts to preparation for domestic use.  Some insist on keeping them in a pickle, others are constantly getting them in hot water.  This may make them sour, hard and sometimes bitter.  Even poor varieties may be made sweet and tender and good by garnishing them with patience, well sweetened with love and seasoned with kisses.  Wrap them in a mantle of charity.  Keep warm with a steady fire of domestic devotion and serve with peaches and cream.  Thus prepared they will keep for years.
someone gave this to me written out on a recipe card when I got married.  I still keep it in my recipe box and still pull it out when looking for recipes  :)
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: Keetonmamma April 16, 2007, 08:38:36 AM
I loved zuccini bread but my husband refused to eat it since he saw green flecks of zuccini peal in it.  I asked him if I could make it for the rest of the family to eat sometime and he said "sure".  I decided to try it with peeled zuccini.  No green flecks.  Hubby smelled it baking and thought it smelled wonderful.  He tried it. and when he saw no green flecks in it he decided he loved it and will eat several slices when I make a loaf. I really wasn't trying to trick him, I was just wondering if it would effect the flavor if you removed the peels.
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: *MommaJo* April 16, 2007, 04:19:28 PM
I'm sorry, I didn't have time to read this whole thread.  I just wanted to  add that I've heard of shredding carrots in meatloaf.  I haven't tried it yet, but I'll bet it's not too bad.  I'm sure you could disguise other veggies in that hunk of meat as well........
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: morningglory June 04, 2007, 05:08:24 PM
In my experience, guys will eat almost anything if it's covered in cheese or breaded and fried.  If you use whole wheat flour and non-hydrogenated oil, it's still pretty healthy.  I was watching a cooking show, and I was amazed at how simple most of the gourmet dishes were.  I tried to imitate what I saw by sauteeing chicken breasts and onion, garlic, and green peppers in extra virgin olive oil with whatever spices I grabbed out of the cabinet.  My husband ate ALL of it and said it was the best chicken I'd ever made.  He even ate the onions! :o  I really think the onions and garlic make all of the difference.  I've made chicken this way a few times now, and it's a little different every time, because I can never remember which spices I used the time before.  Every time, DH loves it.
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: SC June 26, 2007, 05:04:05 AM
If you are looking for the quickest way to improve your family's diet and/or health habits, I can tell you that the surest way to reach an impasse and set up a conflict you will not win is to turn it into a power struggle between yourself and your husband. There are many families on this forum that are at different places in the journey. More than one wife can testify that when she stopped trying to correct her dh, he was happy to consider alternatives.

IMO, it is best to look for common ground where you agree. Support him there and elsewhere. When he knows you'll follow and he can trust your heart, changes will happen.

At our house, we look for ways to make the unhealthy treats from the healthiest ingredients we can find. Dh notices the better taste and has (over time) changed his habits and welcomed better foods. If I had dug in and defended my 'correct' view, we would still be eating out of boxes.

Just my $.02
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: mercy June 26, 2007, 05:49:01 AM
My DH was a strictly meat and potatoes man who loved Coke and pizza and hated anything green.  Changes to our diet were not welcomed until he saw me go through some horrendous health problems and saw that changing my diet was the only thing that really helped.  Then he started eating what I ate to be in solidarity with me.  I never demanded it; as a matter of fact, I continued to cook for him as I had before so that he would not miss out on his favorites.  When he began to eat my food, he noticed some of HIS health issues improve.  That was enough to get the ball rolling for him.  He is just as health-conscious as I am now.  We both still have some problems with our health, but we try not to obsess about them.  We ask God for answers, and trust Him to lead us to the right information in His way, in His time, just as He has done for us in the past.
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: Melie June 26, 2007, 06:18:02 AM
Sounds to me like it might be time to stop discussing health issues with him.  I wouldn't even bring it up.  Just be joyful in what you serve him and serve him what he likes.  I know some people who are so worked up about health issues that they feel horrible guilt if they take a bite of chocolate and they are consumed with worry about germs and disease.  I think we ought to do the best we can with what we have remembering that our life on earth is temporary and God can take us whenever He wishes.  I would really rather be slightly unhealthy, yet full of joy than live a nice long, healthy life wracked with worry over everything my body comes in contact with.  My husband has also evolved from not so healthy to quite health consious but there are times I can tell that I might be pushing it, either by his comments or his attitude.  When that happens, I make a chocolate cake and serve it with a smile!  Then all is well.
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: MamaSong June 26, 2007, 06:52:11 AM
I probably would have come back (with a big smile) with something like, "Hey, do you mind if I start smoking then?" or "Okay...tell the kids it's time to start playing in traffic! 

It sounds like he is trying to come up with "scriptural" backing for a desire to not change (a kind of Rom. 6:1 reasoning).  However, like the other wise women on here have already stated, nothing will turn a man off to change faster than having his wife point out the "error" of his ways.  He doesn't want a "mama" telling him what to do.

To most men, food means comfort, so he is likely concerned that you will suddenly make all his food taste like cardboard.  I know I will never have a "perfectly natural and hyper-healthy" home, nor do I really have it as a goal.  I'm just aiming towards less processed, more natural.  It's a process.  Does he like to bring home ice cream for the family?  Smile and enjoy it rather than sit there and read off the ingredients to him!  Does he like rolls with dinner?  Make some delicious ones from scratch rather than buy a can or mix.  There are always subtle ways to make things more healthy without being the "health-nazi".

And, if he's like my husband, he is also concerned that you spend too much time with your focus on computer, rather than caring for the home.  So I better get going!   ;)
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: healthybratt September 10, 2007, 06:24:21 AM
As a courtesy to the member who started this thread and those participating in the conversation, please attempt to stay on topic as much as possible.

If the conversation triggers a new subject of interest, please search the forum for a more appropriate thread for the discussion.  When one cannot be found, start a new one.

Heart Problems: Healthy Diet/Herbs for Cure (http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,11909.0.html)

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~hb