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Remedies & Therapies => About the Body => Eyes, Ears, Nose & Throat => : Grace September 20, 2006, 07:32:50 PM

: Tonsiloliths [Tonsil Stones]: Something Stuck in My Throat!
: Grace September 20, 2006, 07:32:50 PM
I have had an annoying feeling in my upper throat/back of mouth off to the left side for 3 or 4 days. It feels like a popcorn husk is stuck there. Today I was finally able to see something. There is a white spot aboput 3/8 in or so. It doesn't hurt, but it feels weird/annoying. Any ideas what it is and what I can do about it. Also....I have a very strong gag reflex!
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: SC September 21, 2006, 12:24:03 AM
You have tonsil stones. They aren't uncommon. Yes, they are GROSS! I don't have time to discuss now, but wanted to let you know that this is a known condition.
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: Grace September 21, 2006, 03:58:59 AM
Tonsil stones? OK Isthat something Ineed to get looked at? will it just go away? Or is there a natural remedey? It looks like a canker sore. Thanks.
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: Grace September 21, 2006, 05:17:41 AM
Any body?? BUMP! ::)
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: Maria/NHM September 21, 2006, 05:30:45 AM
http://www.drgreene.com/21_568.html

If you look up tonsil stones on google there's alot of info. Might help you decide if this is your problem. Haven't you had alot of trouble with sore throats and infection before? I had read that having tonsil problems can be a sign of a weak immune system thats need to be strengthened.
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: Grace September 21, 2006, 05:38:01 AM
I actually read that article earlier. Haha. I wasn't sure what it was saying to do. How can you scrape something off your tonsils? Do you know how far back thet is in your throat?!!!! I tried. It is getting bigger.
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: GarlicMomma September 21, 2006, 05:58:20 AM
I cannot vouch for effectiveness, but some gargle with one of the two following items:

1. hydrogen peroxide

2. vinegar

Just make sure you gargle as long as you can, but spit it out. Do not swallow.

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: Maria/NHM September 21, 2006, 06:08:23 AM
I'm having a hard time finding any info besides the convention treatment of scraping your tonsils or having them removed :o I did notice that tonsil stones, bad breath and bad body odor are often mentioned together and are all a sign if a toxic body.
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: Pennie September 21, 2006, 06:23:43 AM
I didn't know they had a name!!  I found my first one when I was about 21, I am 34 now.  I thought it was puss and my grandpa scraped it out for me and it was a ball of well, GROSS as SC said. Now I cannot ever see them but if they get big enough they will dislodge and I do a noisy throat thing and get it out.  My husband TOTALLY grosses out which I think is funny.  ::)  This morning at breakfast(he was at the table I was in the kitchen)and I said hey, you know those things? they have a name.  He said HONEY, I am eating breakfast!(he's so cute)and I said well, I wasn't going to go into detail.......he said yeah, but now i"m thinking about it.  I will have to tell you all about him drinking my breastmilk on the breastmilk yogurt thread.   :D ;D
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: Grace September 21, 2006, 06:26:36 AM
I just talked to the local Dr's office. It is as big as a pea now. They said if it is that big, it is not going away by itself and I need to go in and have it taken off. Then they want me to take an antibiotic. I will have to see what DH says. Any thoughts on if I should take the antibiotic or not???
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: healthyinOhio September 21, 2006, 06:34:54 AM
My hubby has had these since he can remember.  I have never heard someone diagnose them(so will look into this tonsil stone thingy), but they seem very harmless, but are definitely filled with a gross type of something.  At first, my husband thought that his tonsils would flare up and fill with puss, but upon recent discovery he believes that his holes back there are very large and is filling with food.   ???  Either way it is gross!!  Do what you feel is best for yourself and your husband.  But this does not seem very serious at all and I would not do anything as drastic as having them scraped and an antibiotic.  IMO. But no harm having a doc. look at it, just in case your situation is rare and it isn't the tonsil stones.
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: Pennie September 21, 2006, 06:36:51 AM
You can't get a Q-tip and "rake" it off or out? That's what my gp did and I have done since.  But anymore I can't see them. I only know they are there when they come loose.   Maybe I didn't have the same thing you have.  My understanding is it's just food that has gotten compacted in there and doesn't come out w/o some "nudging"  I don't know if I woudl go to the doc about it.  Course mine has been occuring for good long while. 
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: Grace September 21, 2006, 07:01:06 AM
How do you get a Qtip back there without gaging ??? I have been trying, and already gagged so bad I threw up!!! I agree it is not really a big deal, but the Dr said if it is as big as mine, 1/4 in, and has been there for 3 or 4 days, 99% chance it won't come off on it's own. Anything I can do to help with gagging?? I think that is the biggest promlem. The white spot is getting to where it makes me gag a little even when I just swallow.
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: Pennie September 21, 2006, 07:05:13 AM
Oh, bummer sorry.  I don't have have very much of a gag reflex. I couldn't make myself barf if I wanted to. And I have wanted to before.   ::)  I guess you already tried gargling huh?  Sorry I can't be more help.  I just get so determined with stuff like that I just won't stop until I get it.  I mean I did gag but not to the point of......well barfing.   
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: Maria/NHM September 21, 2006, 07:06:06 AM
Is it really stuck on there. When I get a popcorn husk stuck I swallow really big pieces of bread over and over to get it loose. It might work ???
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: SC September 21, 2006, 07:48:37 PM
Tonsilloliths (tonsil stones)

Okay, here's what little I know about tonsil stones.

The medical community only treats the symptoms. Usually, an ENT or Dentist is more familiar with them than other medical practitioners. Tonsilloliths are bits of bacteria that have taken up residency in the pockets in your tonsils.

After a few bouts of sinusitis and/or tonsillitis, apparently the inflamed tonsils get a little wrinkly and form pockets where these little bits start to form and grow. When a tonsil stone reaches a certain size, you will feel like a piece of hair or husk from a bit of food has stuck there and is scraping your throat. If you don't have a powerful gag reflex, you may be able to reach back and get rid of it yourself. Otherwise, you'll find yourself at the doctor's office.

Some people rig up their own contraptions to remove these, but I'd be leery of that. You don't want to accidentally swallow whatever you're using to get at the area.

I've read articles that surmise that these are caused by eating sugars, junk food & etc. I've seen where others say that these stones are little bits of food that accumulate. However, I've tested both of these theories. People on zero sugar (not even fruit) and LONG fasts have still produced tonsil stones. So, the stones themselves aren't little bits of food or directly caused by diet.

I believe that the likely culprit is post nasal drip. There are drainage ducts from your sinuses near where your tonsils are positioned. This mucus runs over the tonsils and gets deposited into the crevices in the tonsils.

Md's treatment for tonsil stones often includes antibiotics and/or removal of the tonsils. However, a tonsillectomy is a serious surgery, and I would not recommend it. Antibiotics (in my opinion) would actually worsen the condition as it would remove any good bacteria present and allow the bad guys to overtake the region. Many people have enjoyed a lifetime free of tonsil stones only to be plagued with them after several rounds of antibiotics.

I would look for items in my daily diet that might be mucus producers. You may think that your drainage is due to environmental factors. It has been my experience that a person starts to react to environmental allergens when the system has become overburdened with so-called foods that it cannot process properly. So, you will likely find that things like hayfever or seasonal allergies are reduced or go away when you start eliminating certain foods from your diet.

Where to start? I would first look for anything that has non-food items in it. In other words, read labels. If you can't purchase it from a farmer, you probably shouldn't be eating it. Your body just doesn't know what to do with red food dye, nitrates, and nitrites. It wasn't designed to handle them other than to produce mucus (or some other allergic symptom) to try and rid itself of the foreign element. Once you've eliminated this, list foods that you crave. Most likely, these are foods that trigger symptoms. Phase these out of your diet also. If you have doubts about a food. Wait a couple of weeks and reintroduce that item. Record your symptoms for 48 hours, and then decide whether or not to keep it in your diet. You'll find that physical cravings go away after about 3 days (or sooner) when you eliminate the item.

Using this method you can greatly reduce, if not eliminate, your allergic reactions. After some time, you may even find that you are able to reintroduce foods that gave you problems before when you were toxic. It may be as simple as using organic ingredients because you were reacting to the non-organic version.

In addition to these steps, I would look for an affordable air filter. If you aren't using anything now, a cheap one is better than nothing. Look into getting a Kombucha mushroom and some Kefir grains to help boost the good bacteria in the area. Lastly, if you can afford it, replace amalgam fillings with composite ones. IMO those metal fillings contribute to the condition.

Until you get the mucus under control a 50/50 solution of hydrogen peroxide and water will help the condition. Just gargle daily and you should start to see results in a couple of weeks.

In the meantime, if you get ahold of one of those things, beware of smelling them. They have a very pungent sulfur odor. :P
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: healthybratt September 22, 2006, 12:06:39 AM
Thank the Lord for very big favors.   :o  I had a tonsillectomy when I was three.   :-\  I feel for you.  :'(
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: Grace September 22, 2006, 04:28:40 AM
Well, I had finally decided to go in and have the Dr. look at  it today and then my husband had to take my vehicle! ARGGG! Anyways...If I do get in,(I will have to walk and it is 35*) do you all think I should take the antibiotic or not?
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: healthyinOhio September 22, 2006, 04:35:59 AM


Okay, here's what little I know about tonsil stones.


After a few bouts of sinusitis and/or tonsillitis, apparently the inflamed tonsils get a little wrinkly and form pockets where these little bits start to form and grow. When a tonsil stone reaches a certain size, you will feel like a piece of hair or husk from a bit of food has stuck there and is scraping your throat. If you don't have a powerful gag reflex, you may be able to reach back and get rid of it yourself. Otherwise, you'll find yourself at the doctor's office.  THIS SOUNDS EXACTLY WHAT MY HUSBAND HAS.  EVERYTHING YOU HAVE DESCRIBED THUS FAR IS WHAT IT IS WITH HIM.  HE HAS SUFFERED THESE SINCE HE BATTLED A SEVERE ILLNESS IN CHILDHOOD.  THEY WANTED TO REMOVE HIS TONSILS, BUT HE REFUSED.  AT SUCH A YOUNG AGE, TOO, WHAT A STUBBORN LITTLE STINKER HE MUST HAVE BEEN! ;)

Some people rig up their own contraptions to remove these, but I'd be leery of that. You don't want to accidentally swallow whatever you're using to get at the area.

I've read articles that surmise that these are caused by eating sugars, junk food & etc. I've seen where others say that these stones are little bits of food that accumulate. However, I've tested both of these theories. People on zero sugar (not even fruit) and LONG fasts have still produced tonsil stones. So, the stones themselves aren't little bits of food or directly caused by diet.

I believe that the likely culprit is post nasal drip. There are drainage ducts from your sinuses near where your tonsils are positioned. This mucus runs over the tonsils and gets deposited into the crevices in the tonsils.  THIS COULD BE A POSSIBILITY, TOO.  MY HUSBAND HAS A DEVIATED SEPTUM.  I DON'T KNOW IF THIS MAY BE PART OF THE CONTRIBUTOR.

Md's treatment for tonsil stones often includes antibiotics and/or removal of the tonsils. However, a tonsillectomy is a serious surgery, and I would not recommend it. Antibiotics (in my opinion) would actually worsen the condition as it would remove any good bacteria present and allow the bad guys to overtake the region. Many people have enjoyed a lifetime free of tonsil stones only to be plagued with them after several rounds of antibiotics.

I would look for items in my daily diet that might be mucus producers. You may think that your drainage is due to environmental factors. It has been my experience that a person starts to react to environmental allergens when the system has become overburdened with so-called foods that it cannot process properly. So, you will likely find that things like hayfever or seasonal allergies are reduced or go away when you start eliminating certain foods from your diet.  NOW, THIS IS THE PART THAT JUST DOES NOT FIT IN OUR SITUATION.  HE HAS HAD THESE IN HIS PAST WHICH WAS FILLED WITH ALL OF THIS JUNK AND SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD BE THE CULPRIT.  BUT AT THE SAME TIME, HE HAS STILL HAD THIS PROBLEM WHEN WE WERE MILK FREE AND EATING ORGANIC FOODS, NO KNOWN ALLERGENS, FILTERED WATER, AIR, AND NO MORE MERCURY FILLINGS.  SO, THIS IS WHY I AM LEANING TOWARD THE FOOD GETTING STUCK IN THESE HOLES(LIKE YOU WERE SO EXCELLENTLY DESCRIBING) AND DECOMPOSING.

Where to start? I would first look for anything that has non-food items in it. In other words, read labels. If you can't purchase it from a farmer, you probably shouldn't be eating it. Your body just doesn't know what to do with red food dye, nitrates, and nitrites. It wasn't designed to handle them other than to produce mucus (or some other allergic symptom) to try and rid itself of the foreign element. Once you've eliminated this, list foods that you crave. Most likely, these are foods that trigger symptoms. Phase these out of your diet also. If you have doubts about a food. Wait a couple of weeks and reintroduce that item. Record your symptoms for 48 hours, and then decide whether or not to keep it in your diet. You'll find that physical cravings go away after about 3 days (or sooner) when you eliminate the item.  I DON'T KNOW OF ANYTHING THAT HE WOULD BE ALLERGIC TO.  BUT I WILL TRY TO PAY ATTENTION TO IT MORE.  HE EATS EVERYTHING IN SIGHT!! :D  MY GUESS IS HE CRAVES EVERYTHING, SO HE IS ALLERGIC TO EVERYTHING!!

Using this method you can greatly reduce, if not eliminate, your allergic reactions. After some time, you may even find that you are able to reintroduce foods that gave you problems before when you were toxic. It may be as simple as using organic ingredients because you were reacting to the non-organic version.

In addition to these steps, I would look for an affordable air filter. If you aren't using anything now, a cheap one is better than nothing. Look into getting a Kombucha mushroom and some Kefir grains to help boost the good bacteria in the area. Lastly, if you can afford it, replace amalgam fillings with composite ones. IMO those metal fillings contribute to the condition.

Until you get the mucus under control a 50/50 solution of hydrogen peroxide and water will help the condition. Just gargle daily and you should start to see results in a couple of weeks.  THIS IS A GOOD IDEA AND I AM GOING TO PUT THIS TO THE TEST TO SEE IF IT WORKS.  THE FUNNY THING IS, HE HAS THIS "ODD" SMELL AROUND HIS UPPER LIP/ NOSTRIL AREA.  HE HAS HAD IT EVER SINCE I MET HIM.  HIS BREATH DOES NOT STINK, HIS BODY DOES NOT STINK, BUT JUST THIS AREA.  DO YOU SUPPOSE THIS IS THE MUCOUS/POSSIBLE FOOD DECAYING STENCH?  WOULD BE NICE TO FIGURE THIS ONE OUT!

In the meantime, if you get ahold of one of those things, beware of smelling them. They have a very pungent sulfur odor. :P  YES!!  HE DIGS IT OUT AND ALWAYS SAYS IT SMELLS BETWEEN THAT GOOP THAT GETS STUCK IN YOUR TOES AND THE AWFUL SMELL OF PUS!!!  THEN, HE WANTS ME TO KISS HIM  ???  GROSS!!!! :P
THANKS, SC, FOR YOUR WONDERFUL INSIGHT AND KNOWLEDGE OF THIS CRAZY THING!!  I SHALL RESEARCH IT FOR MYSELF, TOO.  HOPEFULLY, HAVING EVERYONE LOOKING INTO THIS WE CAN FIND SOMETHING TO WORK FOR THIS THING.  GOD, I LOVE THIS SITE!!
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: Grace September 22, 2006, 04:55:16 AM
Well alot of this makes sense. I have had tonsillitis once. About 2 years ago. worst I have ever felt...I was 15 weeks PG and already felt half dead so it really did me in! Also I am just getting over a cold and have had runny nose/post nasal drip. Thaks for all the info. Does anyone know why they want me to take an antibiotic? I go in at 2:30 today. Fun stuff! :-\
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: Pitty-Pat September 23, 2006, 08:43:35 AM
I don't think that having your tonsils out is necessarily a good thing, unless absolutely necessary.  I've always heard that your tonsils were a big part of your immune system.  They are one of the first lines of defense against infection.  I used to get those white things ALL the time...not so much now that we are living a healthier lifestyle, but I used to get them several times a year.  Sometimes they got big, sometimes they fell off when they were still pretty small, but I've never had to have one removed.  From what I understand, the reason they are so nasty is because they are dead white blood cells....casulties from the battle to keep you healthy.  I know its a little late for this input now, since you went to the dr. yesterday, but I wouldn't take the antibiotic just for that.  Do you have any other symptoms?  If not, then chances are, your tonsils did their job, and the infection is beat.  Let us know what happened.

Laura
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: Grace September 23, 2006, 02:50:57 PM
Well, I did go in yesterday. They made me gargle 3 times with this stuff that tasted kind of like gasoline! Nasty! Then they had to scrape my tonsil 6 or 7 times. I gagged every time but didn't throw up. Yeah!!! She did give me a perscription for an antibiotic. Still haven't decided if I will take it or not. As far as other symptoms....

I did have a slight soreness in my back lower gum, but that sems to be gone today. I also have a tenderness in the bottom of my chin???  I have been taking some garlic capsules.
Any more suggestions?? Thanks for all the good advice. I agree that I do not want to  get my tonsils out. Thanks!
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: healthybratt September 23, 2006, 05:29:56 PM
Well, I did go in yesterday. They made me gargle 3 times with this stuff that tasted kind of like gasoline! Nasty! Then they had to scrape my tonsil 6 or 7 times. I gagged every time but didn't throw up. Yeah!!! She did give me a perscription for an antibiotic. Still haven't decided if I will take it or not. As far as other symptoms....

I did have a slight soreness in my back lower gum, but that sems to be gone today. I also have a tenderness in the bottom of my chin???  I have been taking some garlic capsules.
Any more suggestions?? Thanks for all the good advice. I agree that I do not want to  get my tonsils out. Thanks!
Eucalyptus on a cloth or in the bath - inhale.  It's antibacterial and soothing to the throat.
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: hollyolly123 September 24, 2006, 04:40:44 PM
Hey there,

I've had the same problem in the past, and when I'm pregnant or sick (or was recently sick) they come back.  I would suggest chlorophyll water (put a teaspoon of chlorophyll in your water, they sell it mint flavored) because that has a detoxifying, cleansing effect on your body.  Good diet should help a lot, but I'm pretty sure antibiotics will only make it worse!!!  I hate them.  They make your whole body unhealthy, and the problem would probably only get worse once you finished taking them.  I usually use a q tip to get them out, and I flex my "gag reflex muscles" to push my tonsils up where I can see better (wow, does this all sound gross or what? :P).  I find if I push on the skin nest to it a little and then brush toward it, it will kind of pop out.  Doctors tend to way overmedicate and this sounds like the case.  Brush your teeth very well several times a day (gently!!!) and chew a little garlic, maybe rinse and gargle (if you can) with warm salt water, and this will prevent bacteria from your mouth from aggrivating the condition.  All these things have helped me a lot, and it usually doesn't happen to me any more.  Maybe try taking a lot of extra vitamin c too?  Hope this helps!!
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: Tanya October 11, 2006, 09:36:13 AM
I have had an annoying feeling in my upper throat/back of mouth off to the left side for 3 or 4 days. It feels like a popcorn husk is stuck there. Today I was finally able to see something. There is a white spot aboput 3/8 in or so. It doesn't hurt, but it feels weird/annoying. Any ideas what it is and what I can do about it. Also....I have a very strong gag reflex!

Hey Dear Grace, sorry I am replying so late. I have had these tonsil stones for years. I have very large pits in my tonsils that collect food and dead cells. Every now and then I get the feeling like something is stuck in my throat. I look back there and of course my little white enemy is waving back at me. Over the year I have become very comfortable with my body. I am very practical and it does not daunt me to do things myself. I used a long tea stiring spoon to scrape that thing loose then spit it out. I have also used a eyeliner pencil from the blunt unused end just to push this out then clean pencil well with alcohol. Horrible I know. I actually have built up my gag reflexes over the years and it does not even phase me now. Just talked to my dentist the other day and it is very common. You don't need antibiotics just a salt water rinse after you get it out . I almost never get sick so really for me it is just those pits that catch everything. I hope you are well. Hope this helps.
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: Grace October 11, 2006, 10:00:19 AM
Hey Dear Grace, Over the year I have become very comfortable with my body.
 I actually have built up my gag reflexes over the years and it does not even phase me now. Hope this helps.

How do you strengthen your gag reflex? Is it just will power or can I actually do something that will help? Thanks...
Also..Just some info for everyone..I did not take the antibiotics that they gave me and no problems. Yeah!!!!
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: luvbnamom November 09, 2006, 04:53:33 AM
I'm not sure where this would go, but I would love any thoughts on what this might have been. 

Last night after dinner I started getting this irritating scratch on the back of my throat.  I thought maybe I had a bean skin back there causing problems.  Finally after a few hours of coughing, scratching, trying to get this thing to dislodge I went into the bathroom to check.  I looked in the back of my throat and there was a white bump in my sinus duct(not sure what it is...sinus something maybe?).  It reminded me of having strep throat, but I felt fine.  So I put my finger back their and flicked whatever it was and it didn't budge.  It still was scratching really bad, so I tried again...this time I pulled the sinus open.  The more I opened it the larger this thing was.  It kind of reminded me of looking at reptile eggs of some sort.  With this pulled open, I tried pushing it out by contracting the muscles in my throat.  Finally it popped out and I bent over the sink and spit it out.  It was probably the size of dime.  It had a really bad odor.  When I looked at it it looked like twisted veins or something like that.  Any ideas?  I have been drinking lots of water.  I've gone from maybe a glass or two a day to 2 qts+.  Also, when the weather changed three weeks ago I got a sinus infection.  Could this have anything to do with it?

Sorry for the TMI.  Thanks for any thoughts. ~Becca
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: healthy dawn November 09, 2006, 08:46:32 AM
Oh my goodness I thought that I was the only one to experience this!
About twice a year I get these tonsil stones it is usualy around the time that my sinus
stuff starts, I just use a Q-tip to get them out and then I feel better. I started to get them when I was in high school after a severe bout of tonsilitus(? spelling). As far as the ball in your sinus, My experience has been that it is a ball of snot that really neads to come out. My youngest and I both experience them and when they come out we usually feel better as well. Ugly nasty stuff that goes on in our bodies when we don't take care of ourselves.
Dawn
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: chrysalyde November 09, 2006, 09:55:52 AM
I too have had these tonsil stones (as I just learned they are called) for years. I don't know when it started. All I know is that once when I was at a ears/sinus/throat doctor (don't know how they are called in America), I asked him about them. He gave me the explanation and told me what they were called (caseum deposit or something like that, I don't remember it's been such a long time). He said it was nothing to worry about, that you can just live with them no problem. They give bad breath and he said he understood that would be a problem at my age (18 at the time  :-[) so if I wanted to get rid of them, the only solution would be getting your tonsils out, which is otherwise unnecessary.

I laughed so hard when I read Pennie's post - sounds so much like a scene at our place ! My husband is grossed out by them too !
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: lynn November 09, 2006, 01:27:33 PM
Tonsil stones are sooo yucky  >:( I've been dealing with them for awhile.  Infections like strep,mono,etc. scar the tonsils causing them to become cryptic.  Food can get trapped in there but mostly the whitish/yellowish stuff that comes out is all produced by the tonsil.  Over the years I've become a pro at getting that nasty stuff out.  You can strengthen your gag reflex believe me I've done it.  I use a water pick and flush out my tonsils.  I can tell when there "full" and I either flush them out or push on them with the rounded edge of the water pick and all that nasty stuff comes out!  I know this is sooo disgusting, I'm just relaying what works for me ::)  Be careful not to scratch your tonsils or you can develop a nasty canker sore on them and it hurts!  I really want to get mine out but right now life is just too busy or maybe I'm just a big chicken ;)
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: Hamama November 09, 2006, 04:18:28 PM
I had one of the white sores on my tonsils just a week ago. I thought I was getting strep throat again. We had strep three times in as many months about 18 months ago. So I knew that the white spots were usually part of it, but strep always knocks me off my feet. This time just an irritated throat and the white spot. I used the peroxide to gargle and was taking garlic. I didn't seem to get any relief from those. I finally mixed up some salt water and added cayenne pepper to gargle. In the morning I gargled and half the white was gone by evening and it seemed to leave a hole. Before bed I gargled again and the next morning the white spot was completely gone and so was the sore throat! As for the hole it left I think it just closed on its own.
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: Simply Kristen November 09, 2006, 04:38:46 PM
I get tonsilloliths too.  Nasty Nasty!

Here's my experience:
They were the worst when I lived in Maine...during the winter (10 years ago). It was constant and the stones could be HUGE. I never saw a doc about this. About 2 years ago I asked a doc and he said it was food. I disagree (could be part of it though)

Tonsil stones, it is theorized, are the result of a combination of any of the following:
food particles
dead white blood cells (a.k.a. "leukocytes")
oral bacteria, possibly from mouth breathing
overactive salivary glands
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonsilloliths

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: luvbnamom November 09, 2006, 05:05:30 PM
Wow!  I'm relieved to have an answer.  It was really gross.  I've only had strep 2 times in my life and maybe a hand full of sore throats.  I have had a few bouts of sinus infection since I was 12.  Now that I've read all the info it was my tonsil duct?/hole? that the ball was in and it was really gross!  But thankfully it came right out and I've had no problems today.  I didn't even think of going to the doctor for it, but I have had a lot of water today.  I think I will finish the night with a salt water gargle.

~Becca
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: Pennie June 26, 2007, 03:49:35 PM
side note: why does it warn you when a topic hasn't been posted in for 120 days and to maybe start a new one?  Just curious. Now on to my "stone" comment/question.  :)

I have them.........I first saw when I was like 19 I think.  I am now 34 and I do get them but I only know about it when they come up.  I know it's nasty.  Totally grosses out my husband.  My thing is I can't see them any more.  I used to be able to see them......and dig them out, I know again disgusting.  Well, I have been on the MC for 7 days now and I felt like I could feel something in my throat but I didn't look b/c I haven't been able to see them for so long.  WELL, I just looked and I can see them on both sides.  Looks like a few on one side and a larger one on the other.  Is the MC flushing them out ya think?  I know no on can probly answer this but why can I see them now and I couldn't b/f?  It's not like I have lost that much weight.  Anyone have any thoughts?  Okay I can't help myself so I am going to go try and get them out.   :P

Okay, I have had to go back and then back to try and get it to post again.
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: healthybratt June 26, 2007, 04:11:12 PM
side note: why does it warn you when a topic hasn't been posted in for 120 days and to maybe start a new one?  Just curious. Now on to my "stone" comment/question.  :)
It's a preset in the software.  Just ignore it.
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: Pennie June 26, 2007, 04:13:04 PM
side note: why does it warn you when a topic hasn't been posted in for 120 days and to maybe start a new one?  Just curious. Now on to my "stone" comment/question.  :)
It's a preset in the software.  Just ignore it.
;D K, I pretty much did.  I couldn't imagine you all wanting us to start a new thread when one was already there.   ;D Thanks.
: Re: Tonsiloliths [Tonsil Stones]: Something Stuck in My Throat!
: Ritab July 07, 2007, 11:26:03 AM
I've done a lot of research about tonsils and was told to get them out. I was eating very unhealthy and when they told me to get them out I read a lot about Hodgkins being a problem after out. The surgeon rolled his eyes and said that's not so.  Given most research we hear about from doctors is biased, I decided it was best to just wait. I went to an alternative health doctor...in another state and a good 3 hour drive, but well worth it.

For my recurring sore throats he reccommended I be on acidophilus, grapefruit seed extract and when bad, take it 4 times a day. Also oil or oregano and raw honey will take that sore throat right away. I can also gargle (but don't swallow) collidial silver.  I have not been back to a doctor in 4 years....truly! This from someone who thought it was normal to be sick the ENTIRE winter! And I've had 2 babies since then, which is always when my immune system takes a swift dive and ends me in the hospital with tonsillitis.

For those Tonsil Stones, they still come sometimes and usually after I've eaten sugar. My body is very sensitive to yeast/candida and sugar, maybe just from a lifetime of ME not batting an eyelash at sugar. I will also notice it's worse if I'm getting a cold; aka; weakened immune system. I'll often break out Vit C and drink water like crazy for that. Remember, if you don't want loose bowels, use lemon juice in your water. You'll be surprised how a little squirt becomes a great taste and no sugar needed. I never thought that would be possible!

I used to dig them out, but often found myself with a sore throat afterwards. I'm curious about the theory of nasal drip having something to do with it, although I am not aware I have a problem with nasal drip. Still...the bottom line; build up your immune system and things like this usually shape up. Find what works for you. Your body is telling you to work on your immune system, not take a knife to your tonsils. One of my researches on tonsillitis had said that if you take them out, your body just takes the warning signs of weak immune system elsewhere in your body where it's not always easily detected until it's a huge problem (Like cancer).

I wish I could tell the world this. I still hate my tonsils! But I've come to realize they are God's creation in me (I couldn't figureo out why God gave us tonsils if they were no good or no use as the doctors kept saying). And that creation in me is telling me when I"M not behaving, so don't feel like a chicken for not getting them out. Respect your body. It's trying to be on your side! :)
: Re: Tonsiloliths [Tonsil Stones]: Something Stuck in My Throat!
: mamatomany April 20, 2008, 04:31:34 PM
Those are those gross white/green balls in the back of your throat that smell horrible.  They are actually anarobic bacteria that grows in environments where no or low oxygen is present.  Anyways, my throat has been really sore for a few days and I had a swollen gland just on one side.  Opened up my mouth, huge what I lovingly call "a stink ball".  I generally get it out with a q-tip so off I go pokin and proding all of a sudden a hole opened up in my tonsil with a squirt of puss and about 6 giganic tonsiloliths came out  :o.  The hole began bleeding and has since closed up.  Beyond gross.....does anyone have any suggestions on how to heal the throat and how do you get rid of these things?  My 11 year old niece gets them all the time too  ???
: Re: Tonsiloliths [Tonsil Stones]: Something Stuck in My Throat!
: SarahLaRae April 20, 2008, 05:05:05 PM
Wow that is really nasty! ;)  I used to get these too. very nasty.  I would use a really long tooth pic to get mine out.  My tonsils eventually got so bad they had to be removed.  Maybe you could try gargling with salt water to heal the hole in it.
: Re: Tonsiloliths [Tonsil Stones]: Something Stuck in My Throat!
: SarahLaRae April 20, 2008, 05:12:50 PM
Okay I just found this statement on this site:
http://www.wddty.com/03363800370854306027/tonsiloliths.html

that I think you might find pretty interesting

Tonsiloliths:

Another reader last week wanting advice on how to put a stop to recurring tonsiloliths, a condition where white globules emanate from the tonsils. Nasal sinus drops and gargling with antibacterial mouthwash apparently helps, says one reader. The high-dose vitamin C remedy, mentioned in the previous query on sore throats, is supposed to work on tonsils as well. However, other readers say forget about treating the symptoms and go straight to the cause of the problem. Check out the ingredients in your toothpaste. One reader says that tonsiloliths may be caused by sodium lauryl (or laureth) sulfate which is contained in some personal care products. Another reader who had tonsiloliths says it disappeared as soon as an infected tooth was extracted. Food allergies and chemical sensitivities may also be potential culprits.


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: Blue Rose April 20, 2008, 05:37:02 PM
My Dh gets these too and removes them with the back end of his toothbrush. It really grosses me out when he does it but he doesn't have a gag reflex. I think these nasty things really contribute to bad breath too. So I am wondering, after doing some reading on Chlorophyll, if that would help. It would take oxygen to the area through the blood, and is a natural internal deodorizer. What do you think? I am wanting to try it. I think it would be nice to wake up to a more refreshing Hubby in the morning.  ;)
~Blue Rose
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: here-n-there-a-little April 21, 2008, 08:00:54 AM
WoW! is THAT what those nasty things are???  I get these occasionally.  Less frequently than I used to.  And I have to say the sodium laureth sulfate theory is definately wrong in my case because I do not use any product with that in it.  Can't wait to look into this now that I know what they are called!
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: DHW April 21, 2008, 08:19:19 AM
Seems to me that the usual gargling with salt water, vit C water, peroxide (3% mixed with equal part water), or herbal water/tea would be helpful, if done frequently.  

If there is an overgrowth (imbalance) of bad bacteria then probiotics would help restore the proper ratios (swishing/gargling and also taking by mouth).  

Even gently flushing the tonsils with a water pik and any of these solutions might be a good idea.  SPIT - DON'T SWALLOW after gargling, swishing, flushing!!

The idea is too get direct contact with the solution and the problem area.

I would also consider rubbing  a couple of drops of DMSO on the outside of the throat over the tonsil area.  It is a pretty impressive healer and oxygenator (germ killer).  Do not use orally.  It may cause dry skin, so moisturize a little more than ususal on your neck and throat area.

Of course, eliminating allergens is essential, and giving your body a chance to fight the problem (excellent diet, plenty of fluids, supplements as necessary, especially probiotics).  Chronic conditions indicate an imbalance that needs to be corrected.

I have gotten these occasionally and, for me, they seem to be related to sinus drainage.
: Re: Tonsiloliths [Tonsil Stones]: Something Stuck in My Throat!
: prairiechild April 21, 2008, 08:35:56 AM
I have never had another tonsilolith after starting on lugol's solution as iodine supplementation and have seen other posts to that effect on curezone.
: Re: Tonsiloliths [Tonsil Stones]: Something Stuck in My Throat!
: jhandrh April 21, 2008, 08:46:53 AM
i usually only get these if i have a cold.  so that would disagree w/ the SLS theory.  But it would support the theory that they are caused by bacteria.  I always thought they were from sinus drainage, but just my opinion.
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: healthyinOhio April 21, 2008, 10:20:18 AM
There is a thread on this, already:
http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,3398.0.html
You may find some helpful things, here.  ;)
You beat me to it.   ;D I thought I was going to get to be helpful.  :D :D

Oh, dear, I am sorry, Pennie.  I used to do it all the time and felt like a thread hog, so I stopped for awhile.  Now, look what I have done.  :D
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: Pennie April 21, 2008, 10:48:56 AM
There is a thread on this, already:
http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,3398.0.html
You may find some helpful things, here.  ;)
You beat me to it.   ;D I thought I was going to get to be helpful.  :D :D

Oh, dear, I am sorry, Pennie.  I used to do it all the time and felt like a thread hog, so I stopped for awhile.  Now, look what I have done.  :D
no apology necessary, you are really good at it.  Not hogging helping.  ;D I just HAPPEN to know about that thread b/c I have had "them" in the past. AHOH, is this called hijacking? Sorry.  :-\
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: ruhamah April 22, 2008, 01:59:06 AM
Seems to me that the usual gargling with salt water, vit C water, peroxide (3% mixed with equal part water), or herbal water/tea would be helpful, if done frequently. 

If there is an overgrowth (imbalance) of bad bacteria then probiotics would help restore the proper ratios (swishing/gargling and also taking by mouth). 

Even gently flushing the tonsils with a water pik and any of these solutions might be a good idea.  SPIT - DON'T SWALLOW after gargling, swishing, flushing!!

The idea is too get direct contact with the solution and the problem area.

I would also consider rubbing  a couple of drops of DMSO on the outside of the throat over the tonsil area.  It is a pretty impressive healer and oxygenator (germ killer).  Do not use orally.  It may cause dry skin, so moisturize a little more than ususal on your neck and throat area.

Of course, eliminating allergens is essential, and giving your body a chance to fight the problem (excellent diet, plenty of fluids, supplements as necessary, especially probiotics).  Chronic conditions indicate an imbalance that needs to be corrected.

I have gotten these occasionally and, for me, they seem to be related to sinus drainage.

 In my experience: Watch out what type of moisturize you put on a spot where DMSO has been used the DMSO will pull anything on top of it through the skin! (I did this after putting DMSO on my heal and putting on a pair of blue socks! My heel was blue for more than a week, the dye went right through the skin.)

R
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: just jane April 23, 2008, 10:39:37 AM
Hmmmmmmm..........I have not had these since I use a sinus rinse kit every day.   I use 1/2 salt and 1/2 baking soda.  I almost forgot I had them.
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: DHW April 23, 2008, 01:42:12 PM
Right about the DMSO!  Let it completely absorb before applying moisturizer, or even allowing anything to touch the area. Of course, only apply with clean hands.
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: Whiterock May 13, 2008, 03:49:16 PM
OBJECTIVES: This study was undertaken to seek the correlation between tonsillar core and tonsillar crypt cultures and study the incidence of beta- lactamase producing bacteria (BLPB) in chronic tonsillitis patients. MATERIAL AND METHOD: The study was carried out in Department of Otolaryngology from Feb 2000 to Dec 2001. Patients with chronic tonsillitis who underwent tonsillectomy were enrolled, and culture results from tonsillar crypts were compared with tonsillar core. RESULTS: The tonsil were removed from 61 patients. Age ranging from 2-14 years (n=21) and 15-50 years (N= 40); H. influenza (25.2%), S. aureus (23.4%), and S. viridian (11.3%) were isolated from tonsillar core, while 25.9% and 24% of organisms isolated from tonsillar crypt were H. influenza and S. aurieus, respectively. Correlations between tonsillar core and tonsillar crypt culture were 100% specificity for Group A beta hemolytic streptococcocus (GABHS), 86.2% for H. influenza and 81.5% for S. aureus. Regarding beta-lactamase production, 29.2% of H. influenza were beta lactamase producing bacteria (BLPB), while 88.9% of S. aureus were BLPB. CONCLUSION: The present study demonstrates a high correlation in cultures obtained from tonsillar crypt and tonsillar core. The difference in isolated technique may account for the higher correlation when compared to previous studies. The incidence of beta- lactamase producing bacteria in chronic tonsillitis was high.

What?

EDIT; Ok, I'll tell you what was thinking when I posted this (and I was hoping someone else would interpret it so I could have confirmation)....I think this says that this is not just a case of bacteria getting into the "crypts" but that the tonsil itself is full of bad bacteria. Seems to be an infection and maybe a problem with a weak immune system that isn't able to completely get rid of the problem... maybe the stones are how your body is dealing with the constant presence of too many bad guys in the tonsils.

So I'm glad SC seemed to read it similarly.

WR
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: SC May 14, 2008, 03:04:42 AM
I would like to modify my position on tonsiloliths a bit . . .

I still firmly believe that these bits of stuff are the result of pockets of bacteria growing in tonsil pockets. However, I don't believe that they are necessarily the result of sinusitis and/or allergies . . . Tonsillitis, sinusitis, and allergies (or similar maladies) are conditions that coincide with the prevalence of tonsiloliths because (IMO) all of these things signal a bacterial imbalance and a compromised immune system.

Tonsiloliths are actually little indicators, red flags if you will, that notify you that you have a bacterial imbalance in your oral/sinus cavity. Normal saliva and/or mucus production will not result in tonsiloliths, IMO. However, if your system is depleted of proper probiotics, enzymes, etc., then the little indentations in your tonsils become the perfect little petri dishes in which these little guys can go wild. Likely if you suffer from tonsiloliths, you will find that any compromise to your teeth or gums will easily turn to gum disease or decay.

What to do?

Someone a few posts up was right on with using a netti pot for regular sinus rinses. Even if you aren't suffering from a sinus infection, it's likely that if you have tonsiloliths, some bacteria are hiding up in there and need to be addressed. This is a valuable tool for STEP 1, which is to kill the bad bacteria.

STEP 2 is just as important: Repopulate the sinus cavity and oral cavity with good bacteria. I would also look into making sure I was consuming fermented foods rich in probiotics and/or taking a good quality supplement (but not just the supplement alone). You might even consider using a probiotic powder and/or whey or yogurt to your netti pot rinse (diluted in sea salt water of course ::)).

Using and SLS (Sodium lauryl sulfate)free toothpaste is important for (I believe) another reason. You can read HB's posts on SLS. I slightly differ with her take in that I don't believe that the SLS itself is the bad stuff. It's just that (like DMSO) SLS allows any chemical agents in the product you are using to penetrate and compromise your system. A depleted system cannot defend itself well against attacks on it's immune system . . . Therefore it is more difficult to get rid of tonsiloliths.

Even if your toothpaste/mouthwash/oral care product is full of completely wonderful items, it is likely that your tap water is not. Therefore, an SLS oral care product could take whatever is in your tap directly into your blood stream through your oral cavity. Not a good plan, IMO.

. . . And, I've been doing some study lately that indicates that a diet lacking in omega 3's and omega 6's at a ratio of 3:1 (omega 3 to omega 6) would contribute to tonsiloliths . . . I believe that on a cellular level the body needs these oils for proper cell production and function and a diet that contains a lot of trans fats (man made oils) will likely contribute to the imbalances that lead to tonsiloliths. These little things are the body's way of telling us something isn't right. BUT this is just my theory based on reading research found at www.cancertutor.com and a book by this same man, Cancer Step Outside the Box (by T.M. Bollinger).

http://www.mnwelldir.org/docs/cancer1/budwig.htm
These oils [trans fats] get into our cell walls and destroy the electrical charge. Without the charge, our cells start to suffocate. Without the oxygen, the only way the cell can replicate is anaerobically. (They also are very tough oils and have a 20-year shelf life. They impede the process of cellular exchange, or letting nutrition in and letting wastes out. Trans fats are also responsible for Type II diabetes, since insulin is a very large molecule it has a difficult time passing through a cell wall created with man-made fats and not cholesterol

Now, I'm NOT saying that people with tonsiloliths are doomed to develop cancer or diabetes. What I AM saying is that these critters are signaling you that your body is struggling with a bacterial overgrowth that could be the result of a larger imbalance elsewhere. The trans-fats and chemicals you consume contribute to allergy symptoms because of (I believe) what they are doing on a cellular level in your body. Tonsiloliths (once proper changes are made in diet, oral care products and the sinus cavity is washed with proper rinses) can be treated and banished.

If you were wondering about tonsiloliths and thinking that you were relatively healthy, heed this warning flag from your body. It is fighting a valiant fight against an overgrowth of oral bacterias and needs your help.

Just my $.02
: Re: Tonsiloliths [Tonsil Stones]: Something Stuck in My Throat!
: amy3js May 14, 2008, 07:58:59 AM
wow SC. Thank you for spelling all that out. It gave me a good kick in the pants that I really needed.  ::) :D
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: amy3js May 14, 2008, 08:12:40 AM
I get these things too, and I don't think that they are caused by sinus drainage, but instead are pushed down the canal in the tonsil by the drainage. So while they may seem to pop up during times of drainage, I think they are just starting to show themselves but are not really caused by the drainage. Thats just my observation though and I am subject to error.  ;) :D
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: Pennie May 14, 2008, 08:47:49 AM
This makes me unsure what to do.  I eat RELATIVELY healthy.  I drink kefir on a regular basis, I have no real sinus issues......but I still have these periodically.  I don't know they are there until they dislodge and usually when my husband is around and TOTALLY grosses him(and me)out.   ::) :-[
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: Simply Kristen May 14, 2008, 09:33:31 AM
I got these ALL the time when I was in the 5th grade. They were HUGE!
Now, I don't get them anymore....... well often anyways...... I'll hawk one up maybe every 4 months or so... and they are very little.

So, ANY bit of tonsiloths are a red warning.... or just if you get them reguarly?

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: ~esposita~ May 14, 2008, 09:58:10 AM
I used to have these continually.  Now, I only occasionally get them - more noticeably so when I've been eating "freely" (You know - cookies, excess of carbs, other not-so-good-for-you-but-MAN!-it-tastes-good types of food...french fries, especially!)

My guess is that it IS a red flag to return to the better way...

Oh, well.  Maybe AFTER we come home from the in-laws'...
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: SC May 14, 2008, 10:52:46 AM
So, ANY bit of tonsiloths are a red warning.... or just if you get them reguarly?

I'll go out on a limb here and say that while tonsiloliths are increasingly common, they are not normal, nor are they indicators of good bacterial balance in the oral cavity (and sinus cavity). Remember, you don't have to have a raging sinus infection for bacteria to be hiding up in those dark moist folds. If good bacteria are not present to do their job, that's all the invitation that the bad microbes need to make themselves at home.

There are any number of things that can compromise a system.

Tonsiloliths (I believe) are the body's way of signaling you that the bad guys have a foothold. Just like people with clean hair sometimes get lice, people with good eating habits can get a bacterial imbalance. Your body is a system that is affected by many factors which include, but are not limited to, dietary sources. It's an invitation by your body to do a little more investigation about what is getting into your system and how/whether or not you are properly supporting good bacterial balance in your ENTIRE digestive tract: colon, mouth & sinus cavity.

Areas I would investigate include (but are not limited to):
Conditions/activities which could deplete your system
poor diet
Environmental considerations
Other considerations

Whatever the source, the treatment is the same. Step 1: seek to kill off the bad bacteria. Step 2: repopulate the area with good bacteria. And make changes that will support continued good balance once it is established.

Again, these are my conclusions based on the sources I cited previously.

Digging these things out is fine, but (IMO) it doesn't address the 'why' of how they got there. Actually, it's kind of neat how God made our bodies to give us these little signals to guide us (I think so, anyway  8)).
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: Whiterock May 14, 2008, 11:23:29 AM
Correlations between tonsillar core and tonsillar crypt culture were 100% specificity for Group A beta hemolytic streptococcocus (GABHS)

Isn't this the type of strep that's responsible for strep throat? Isn't it REALLY hard to get rid of? I was looking around and at first glance it seems to be resistant to treatment. Then there's the other germs that were found... one of which was a type of influenza. It seems that the "kill the off the bad bacteria" step may take a little doing. Maybe we should start listing remedies for some of these things. Or do y'all think that just strengthening the immune system would do it?

Or maybe I'm just reading this all wrong. I mean the study was done on folks with chronic tonsillitis.

WR
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: T May 21, 2008, 04:48:40 AM
Anyone listen to the CD from Sue Becker of Breadbecker's about not eating the bread of idle hands?  She speaks about the function of the tonsils...Says they are for aiding the immune system and when not needed will shrink up and only come back down when the immune system is compromised and they're needed again.  I guess they're so prevalent in infants and young children in order to ward off bad bacterias at such a young age until your immune system matures.  That being said, it would make sense (if this is true) that the larger your tonsils, the more you need them and the more likely they would be to contain bacteria/infection.  I haven't had these tonsil stones much since a few years after I stopped taking antibiotics for sinus infections.  I never knew they had a name!  Seems like this all might line up with what is being discussed.
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: healthyinOhio May 21, 2008, 09:12:26 AM
I have stated earlier in this thread that my husband suffers from these.  He also has a deviated septum.  Does anyone else who suffers from tonsiloliths have this?  Just wondering if there is a correlation?  Because the deviation causes him to breath with his mouth open all the time.  :-\
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: cherokee2121 August 09, 2008, 10:47:45 AM
Okay this is kinda gross...

On occasion I will feel like there is something stuck in my throat when I wake. Something hard. When this first happened, I would find nothing. Upon further inspection I pressed on my tonsil and from a hole on top it releases something. What? I'm not sure. It's hard and in lumps and best could be discribed as "plauque-like". It's usually white/yellow/brown and smells. It will always be when I feel like I'm getting sick. I will do this "empty-ing out" and feel fine. I never get sick. Is it food that's getting stuck in there? Is my immune system great and staving off sickness? Is my throat haywire? Any ideas?
:-\
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: likemanywaters August 09, 2008, 11:28:12 AM
Hey, my husband got that sometimes. This was a long time ago back when we went to the doctor, & he agreed with us that it was food that gets stuck back there. It was always white, though. He would poke at the tonsils with a tongue depressor to squirt it out. Now, whether it was actually food or not, I don't know. The tonsils do play a role in the immune system, what I forgot. It hasn't happened to him recently & we are in general more healthy now than we were then.
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: likemanywaters August 09, 2008, 11:30:37 AM
Oh, hey waddaya know now I know what it was! Thanks Boysmama!
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: hi_itsgwen August 10, 2008, 06:03:44 PM
This topic seems to coincide with another line of study that I've been doing lately.  Dental health and plaque are also caused by bacteria living anarobically in the gums.  I've been trying a routine using some mouth rinses and Xylitol mints after meals/snacks.  A dentist developed this routine, and it has been shown to erradicate the mouth of bad bacteria within 5 weeks.  The plus would be improved dental health...and maybe no more tonsil stones!

The links and stuff are in this thread:
http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,19411.0.html
http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,19387.msg194280.html#msg194280

P.S. I think these happen a lot more than most people know, and they just get swallowed...ick!
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: Pennie September 30, 2009, 03:02:22 AM
side note: why does it warn you when a topic hasn't been posted in for 120 days and to maybe start a new one?  Just curious. Now on to my "stone" comment/question.  :)

I have them.........I first saw when I was like 19 I think.  I am now 34 and I do get them but I only know about it when they come up.  I know it's nasty.  Totally grosses out my husband.  My thing is I can't see them any more.  I used to be able to see them......and dig them out, I know again disgusting.  Well, I have been on the MC for 7 days now and I felt like I could feel something in my throat but I didn't look b/c I haven't been able to see them for so long.  WELL, I just looked and I can see them on both sides.  Looks like a few on one side and a larger one on the other.  Is the MC flushing them out ya think?  I know no on can probly answer this but why can I see them now and I couldn't b/f?  It's not like I have lost that much weight.  Anyone have any thoughts?  Okay I can't help myself so I am going to go try and get them out.   :P

Okay, I have had to go back and then back to try and get it to post again.

Now I am 37. I m still getting these but now I know they are there.  I can feel them.  I dont' get them often but I HAVE to dig them out.  Has anyone firgured out how to prevent them?
: Re: Tonsiloliths [Tonsil Stones]: Something Stuck in My Throat!
: Benny in HSV June 28, 2010, 07:09:54 PM
I recently had my teeth cleaned, it had been longer than it should have been. The dentist indicated I had some gum disease and prescribed an oral rinse.  Subsequent to that appointment, about a week or so into my oral rinse regimen, I developed a sore throat that did not seem to go away. Finally, one day I took a flashlight and looked in my throat and low and behold there is this white thing in my throat next to my left tonsil. I had never seen this before.  Could it be that the cleaning and subsequent rinsing had released bacteria that was living in my gums and they settled in my tonsils? I went to the doctor and saw a nurse practitioner.  She did not know what the thing was, poked it out and did a throat culture.  The results came back as an upper respiratory bacteria present of a non-specific pathogen and prescribed a 10-day antibiotic regimen.  I've been on the meds 4 days, no real improvement and another white thing has appeared.  I can't seem to get back there to get it out myself, have a real bad gag reflex.  Thoughts/suggestions?
: frequent tonsil stones
: chopkins May 17, 2011, 03:07:31 AM
I get tonsil stones about every 2 weeks.  Is that normal?  When they come out they are always 1/4 inch.  Sometimes there are more than one stuck in the hole in my tonsil.  Is that normal? 
: Re: frequent tonsil stones
: healthybratt June 16, 2011, 06:43:45 AM
I get tonsil stones about every 2 weeks.  Is that normal?  When they come out they are always 1/4 inch.  Sometimes there are more than one stuck in the hole in my tonsil.  Is that normal? 
Define normal?  Tonsil stones are not part of a "normal" healthy immune system.