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Remedies & Therapies => Medicinal Herbs & Oils => : arjot October 26, 2006, 04:40:24 AM

: Plantain: When, Why & How to Use
: arjot October 26, 2006, 04:40:24 AM
Hope someone can help. I recently read about making a plantain salve with lard. I can't find it now. I searched this site, looked through magazine.

You bursed the plantain leaves, melted lard over them over low heat till it was green, does this sound right?
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: WithLoveAndJoy October 26, 2006, 04:57:03 AM
Check out this link...I believe that there are some instructions:

http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,2695.0.html
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: healthybratt October 26, 2006, 04:58:35 AM
Try one of these.

http://www.naturesgarden.ca/plantain_med.htm
http://www.altnature.com/gallery/plantain.htm
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: healthybratt January 06, 2007, 05:56:40 AM
My 2 yo son fell backwards and whacked his head and the back of his ear off the coffee table about a week ago.  I could tell by the thunk, that it was gonna be a bad one and sent hubby to get ice before I even picked him up.  A bump appeared within seconds about the size of a golf ball.  I put the ice pack on and tried to comfort him and then I noticed his ear was cut very badly, bleeding and almost black from the bruising.  So, I left him with hubby with ice and a cool cloth and wandered around my kitchen trying to remember what to do...duh...

I didn't really think chewing on plantain was the way I wanted to go, so I took some dried plantain that I ordered from bulkherbstore and made a very strong tea.  Then, without straining, I threw in some ice cubes to cool it down and took wash clothes dipped in the tea and herb and held them on my son's head for almost an hour, rotating the cloths with fresh tea every 15 minutes or so. 

I was amazed (and so was hubby).  The bleeding had stopped.  The black and purple from the ear had faded to red.  The swelling around the cut had gone almost completely and the bump on his head had reduced to the size of about a nickle (managable). 

Then I put some miracle skin salve on the cut and the scrape on the bump, covered it with a med pad and wrapped his head (too funny) like a head trauma victim to keep the patch in place while he was sleeping.  The next morning, he was very happy with minor tenderness to report and the second day, the tenderness was negligable. 

No stitches and no trip to the ER.  What a relief and what a miracle plantain is.

Just wanted to share a personal success with this stuff - It's great!

~hb
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: makingchanges January 06, 2007, 06:06:08 AM
I have seen Plantain mentioned before. What are the different uses? Where do you get fresh. If outside, how do I know I got the right thing? Why do you want fresh? Oh, this is so interesting.
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: healthybratt January 06, 2007, 07:02:39 AM
I have seen Plantain mentioned before. What are the different uses? Where do you get fresh. If outside, how do I know I got the right thing? Why do you want fresh? Oh, this is so interesting.
Fresh is always best because the effective components are at their strongest.  Here's a link for Recognizing Plantain (http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,2900.0.html).
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: lou65cat January 08, 2007, 11:26:12 AM
Hello!

Just wanted to comment regarding Plantain.  My mom (who is 80 years old) told me a long time ago about how her mother used Plantain on her when she was a child.  An ax fell on my mother's toe and caused a deep gash, so my grandmother made a poultice out of plantain and applied to my mother's wound.  My mom said that the gash healed well and left barely a scar! 

After I heard that story countless times, I did the same for myself when I received a deep gash in my finger.  I applied a poultice (fresh as it was summer) and my finger healed nicely.  I cleaned the wound throughly before I applied the poultice and the gash wasn't bad enough for stitches.  I don't know about my mom however.  She was young when it happened and I believe the cut was fairly severe.  At that time, they didn't have the emergency rooms and antibacterial salves like they use today, so it must have been a real wonder plant! 

Plantain is a common plant (mislabeled "weed") that is found in your backyard, driveway, sidewalks, etc...  I think it is a great first aid plant as it is so readily available and so easily harvested.

Lou65cat
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: barrybunch January 24, 2007, 03:46:06 PM
Hello,

I've been reading a strand on skin brushing, and someone mentioned having enlarged lymphnodes.... a Plantain Poultice was remcommended.  My question is: how do you make it? Can you use dried Plantain, if you can find it?  I don't have much luck of finding any outdoors, being that it is Winter in Alaska!  ::)  Also, how long to you leave the poultice on?  Thanks so much....
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: makingchanges January 25, 2007, 08:01:27 AM
bump How to make it?
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: healthybratt January 25, 2007, 10:31:39 AM
bump How to make it?
Anyone?? 
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: heatheronthehill January 25, 2007, 11:56:53 AM
In Rebekah's herb lessons on NGJ, she describes a plantain poultice as simply chewing up or crushing the fresh plantain leaves in your hands and holding them over the affected area. 

For dried plantain, perhaps you could try making a tea out of it - Steep the leaves in boiling water for a few minutes, strain out the leaves, and then you have a tea.  You could soak a soft cloth in the water and then apply it to the affected area.  This is probably not nearly as potent as the fresh, but it might work for you in a pinch.
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: healthybratt January 25, 2007, 04:48:46 PM
In Rebekah's herb lessons on NGJ, she describes a plantain poultice as simply chewing up or crushing the fresh plantain leaves in your hands and holding them over the affected area. 

For dried plantain, perhaps you could try making a tea out of it - Steep the leaves in boiling water for a few minutes, strain out the leaves, and then you have a tea.  You could soak a soft cloth in the water and then apply it to the affected area.  This is probably not nearly as potent as the fresh, but it might work for you in a pinch.
The tea worked for my son.  Read the first post.
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: hjm January 28, 2007, 07:48:25 PM
I have used plantain on bee stings with great results.  I react fairly heavily to stings. Normally a sting on a finger will result in my entire arm swelling up hard and red, difficulty breathing, and several days to heal.  I was amazed to find that plantain applied within ten minutes (it took us that long to find it) stopped the swelling and pain.  The itching was minimal also.  I was not able to find a very healthy specimen and it was late summer.  I think I would have had better results if I had used good fresh plantain. 

I have used it several times for my children and by the next day we frequently can not find the spot where they were stung.

hjm
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: healthybratt February 07, 2007, 05:14:42 AM
I mentioned to herbalmom about my plantain tea the other day and she suggested I make ice cubes out of it for future use.  I did, but have not yet had an opportunity to use my new booboo cubes.  Just thought I'd share it with everyone.  ;D
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: herbalmom February 07, 2007, 10:32:10 AM
I mentioned to herbalmom about my plantain tea the other day and she suggested I make ice cubes out of it for future use.  I did, but have not yet had an opportunity to use my new booboo cubes.  Just thought I'd share it with everyone.  ;D

Thanks HB, I forgot to mention it. Any tea that you would apply cold can be made into ice cubes. The one thing I would add is to keep the cubes in a plastic bag or glass jar in the freezer. I made candula (sp?) (marigold- used for bruising in areas you can't apply onion) ice cubes & they got shoved to the back of the freezer in the ice tray. Since we don't use it very often, it sat for a while & when I went to use it, half the cubes had evaporated away. ::) ::) HTH Blessings ~herbalmom
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: fisherovi5 February 07, 2007, 10:45:03 AM
I mentioned to herbalmom about my plantain tea the other day and she suggested I make ice cubes out of it for future use.  I did, but have not yet had an opportunity to use my new booboo cubes.  Just thought I'd share it with everyone.  ;D

I've used cooled plantain tea on burns with great results.  My daughter touched a hot pan and I knew it would be bad.  I was doubtful but held a cloth wet with the tea on the area and the burn was totally gone.  No red spot, no blisters, no wailing baby.  I'm sold on it - but my question is....would the tea ice cubes potentially stick to a wound? 
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: herbalmom February 07, 2007, 11:16:38 AM
I mentioned to herbalmom about my plantain tea the other day and she suggested I make ice cubes out of it for future use.  I did, but have not yet had an opportunity to use my new booboo cubes.  Just thought I'd share it with everyone.  ;D

I've used cooled plantain tea on burns with great results.  My daughter touched a hot pan and I knew it would be bad.  I was doubtful but held a cloth wet with the tea on the area and the burn was totally gone.  No red spot, no blisters, no wailing baby.  I'm sold on it - but my question is....would the tea ice cubes potentially stick to a wound? 

Wrap in a thin cloth & on a baby or young child keep an eye on it that it's not too cold, just like you would do with reg. ice- the thicker the cloth, the less cold it is. Even if you just put the ice cubes it a pan on the stove (micro isn't good for herbs) & thaw them until you have cold tea it's quicker than making it from scratch. Comfrey works for burns too, just thought that I'd mention it. HTH Blessings ~herbalmom
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: healthybratt February 07, 2007, 12:21:56 PM
I mentioned to herbalmom about my plantain tea the other day and she suggested I make ice cubes out of it for future use.  I did, but have not yet had an opportunity to use my new booboo cubes.  Just thought I'd share it with everyone.  ;D

I've used cooled plantain tea on burns with great results.  My daughter touched a hot pan and I knew it would be bad.  I was doubtful but held a cloth wet with the tea on the area and the burn was totally gone.  No red spot, no blisters, no wailing baby.  I'm sold on it - but my question is....would the tea ice cubes potentially stick to a wound? 
run it under water first if there's a risk of sticking.
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: Simply Kristen April 03, 2007, 08:29:42 AM
I'm making Plantain Salve right now (or trying... :-\)

I'm using Coconut Oil and Plantain. Heating on a double burner (low).  The liquid is not turning green. It's been going about 10 min. The leaves are turning Collard Greenish Brown.

Also, I'm using Fresh Plantain.

Help?
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: SarahK April 03, 2007, 08:38:37 AM
I don't have a solution - but I had the exact same thing happen with mine last year.  I considered whizzing the whole thing in a blender but didn't get to it and threw it all out.  I'll be looking in as you find the answer....
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: Julia April 03, 2007, 08:41:41 AM
I made some with the recipe from NGJ last year. It was the same basic thing except used vaseline. It said to cook those leaves until they were crispy. It took a good long while to get them crispy. On low it will really take a while I think. It ended up just being slightly green.

Yes, mine is made with vaseline so I think I will make some more naturally this year, but it did work wonders on insect bites! We had some guests in our home whose daughter went out back and got covered with mosquito bites. Then she came back in and her parents were quite worried as she was allergic to mosquito bites. They asked if I had some benadryl, which I didn't, but I gave them my plantain salve. By the time they left our house the bites were gone!
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: Julia April 03, 2007, 08:52:22 AM
http://www.nogreaterjoy.org/fileadmin/template/PDFs/2006-May-June.pdf

Here's the NGJ recipe, page 13. I've seen a vaseline substitute on here using beeswax and olive oil. Are you adding beeswax to yours? Otherwise you will just have a liquid salve when you go to use it this summer. I'd like to know how it turns out because I was trying to decide what to use as a base for mine.
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: chopchop April 03, 2007, 08:53:23 AM
This site seem to have some good info on various salves and "how to":

http://www.wildroots.com/salves.htm
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: Simply Kristen April 03, 2007, 04:14:49 PM
Thanks Ladies for the info!

SarahK,
It eventually got a bit green. It took about an hour. Now, I've got army colored coconut oil sittin on my counter. Maybe we'll go play with bugs tomorrow to test the salve.  ;) ;)
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: murfette April 04, 2007, 02:27:37 AM
I also made mine with Vaseline last year.  I didn't know what else to make it with.  But I also added a couple of cut up Aloe Vera leaves.  It worked great!
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: Kristin_19_78 April 18, 2007, 08:54:00 AM
I looked at pictures of Plantain in NO Greater Joy, and it is all broadleaf plantain. I was wondering if anyone has used buckhorn plantain (They are long, thin leaves, stalks with little white flowers), being that this is the only kind I can find in my yard. My son has a really bad gash on his face, so I need to know this NOW! Thank you!
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: Mom2FourBlessings April 18, 2007, 09:37:12 AM
I used the long skinny leaf kind on my children's poison ivy and it worked just fine.. You may have already tried by now, but I just saw this post.

HTH
Blessings and Prayers for your son..
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: Mom2FourBlessings April 18, 2007, 09:40:18 AM
Does anyone know how to dry plantain and chickweed.. I have a yard FULL of both, TONS of it and would love to preserve it for the 2 months out of the year that it does not grow as well.. because right now there is an abundance, and my husband intends to kill most of it with grass seed and make the yard look like a yard instead of a weed factory..  ;D  However he has agreed to leave a few patches for me in the empty flower beds.. but I would love to dry or somehow preserve some..

Is it still effective once dried? or is there a better way to preserve it like canning tea out of it, or some kind of tincture.. I am still fairly new to all this, have been reading up on these things for years but just now starting to put the knowledge to practical use..  ::)

Thanks in advance
Blessings
Heather in TN
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: Julia April 18, 2007, 09:44:07 AM
Last year I just picked the plantain, washed it, and then spread it out on a cookie sheet to dry. It would probably dry faster and more evenly on a screen, but the cookie sheet worked fine. I imagine it's best fresh, but I've definitely read of it being used dried - esp. in Comfort for the Burned and Wounded.
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: boysmama April 18, 2007, 09:51:04 AM
I dried some plantain last year for emergency poultices. Just rinsed the leaves w/ water and laid them out on a bath towel in a semi-dark corner, turned them everyday and when they were totally crisp packaged them in a paper sack. They held their green color very well and still have that herby odor so I would assume that some of the healing properties are still there. I would dip in hot water to rehydrate when needed.
I'd like to make a salve w/ some this year... maybe infusing olive oil w/ several sets of leaves so that it never has to be heated then adding beeswax, etc.
Chickweed .... no idea on the drying part, but I know a salve made the same way as mentioned above is wonderful.
.......
Hey Julia! that book and my spider bite experience is what prompted me to dry some.  ;D
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: Kristin_19_78 April 19, 2007, 05:21:42 AM
Yes, I did try it...I crushed some, them I chewed some and what is funny is that for HOURS, my mouth felt like i rinsed it with listerine. No minty taste, obviously, but VERY clean and tingly. I made a tea and refigerated it, so all I have to do is dip some gauze/ cloth in it and hold it against his swollen face. He says it feels good. We butterflied the wound, cleaned w/ the pantain tea and have also been putting arnica on it.
My gf said, you should probably take him to the hospital, so he could get antibiotics.........I bit my tongue and just smiled......
No thanks, I have plenty of garlic ;)
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: ~esposita~ April 19, 2007, 09:47:35 AM
Does anyone know how to dry plantain and chickweed

I pick them and put them on seperate cookie sheets.  Then, if it is really warm out, I'll leave them in the shade on the porch.  If its not too warm, I'll put them in the car.  You don't want to dry them in the sun

Is it still effective once dried?

I believe so!  I make a salve out of both these ingredients (and Olive Oil, beeswax, and other things) and you need the herbage to be dry inorder to use it.  I'm sure you could make a tea out of either herb for whatever you needed it for.

What do you use chickweed for?
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: LKS April 19, 2007, 02:37:35 PM
A week ago my 10 yr old son got a BAD rope burn on the back of his ankle. Walking back to the house to dress it I asked my husband if he saw any plantain or comfrey. He did not know comfrey but found tiny little plantain just starting to grow. I picked as much as I could and lacking a better way I chewed it into bits put it on a wet paper towel and applied to the burn. He said it gave almost immediate relief and was pretty much the only thing that did. I wish I had picked more and brought it home(we were at my MIL) as it is not growing here yet. I just thought I would give my testimonial. It is good stuff.

LKS
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: AgainstTheGrain May 17, 2007, 05:39:31 PM
So, the No Greater Joy herb lesson said Plantain "tea can be taken with a little honey for lung congestion illnesses like . . . asthma." So, could you make a tincture out of it?

Thoughts?
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: healthyinOhio May 17, 2007, 05:43:30 PM
I put this on U.Exodus, and thought I would put it here, also:

Plantain Flour?  I know, it sounds unreasonable, but apparently it is possible.  Plantain is not only very abundant in most states, but very recognizable.  The long stalks that grow out of the middle of the plant carry the seeds.  Dry the seeds very well and grind into a flour. Here is a recipe from:  Edible Wild Plants; A North American Field Guide, by Elias and Dykeman

PLANTAIN PANCAKES

2 cups Plantain Flour with 3 tsp. baking powder
1/2 tsp. salt
3 Tbsp sugar
2 eggs
3 Tbsp oil
1 cup milk

Stir together and add more milk or flour to make a proper consistency.

I cannot imagine how this tastes for I am not a big plantain fan, but could be a tasty thing for those who like it.  Or if money gets tight.
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: floydian June 28, 2007, 05:11:16 PM
My friend was recently stung by a bee and her wrist has been swollen for 10 days. The doc said it was infected and inflammed and all she could do was wait for the fluid to go away.

Any ideas?


I was stung last week by a wasp and actually have a mild-moderate allergy to stings--I don't quit breathing or anything that severe, but usually have severe local swelling for about 2 weeks.
I made a poultice of plantain as mentioned in the above posts and within 4 hours you couldn't even tell that I had been stung.
Plantain is something that I always try to keep in my medicine cabinet and because of my sensitivity to bug bites and stings it has become one of my favorite herbs.

How do you keep plantain in your medicine cabinet?  Whenever we pick it, it just dries out.  How do you keep it fresh?
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: Mrs. B June 29, 2007, 03:47:13 AM


How do you keep plantain in your medicine cabinet?  Whenever we pick it, it just dries out.  How do you keep it fresh?
I do dry it.  I crush it dried into tiny pieces and mix it with some oil or even water and apply it.  I am also planning on making it into an infused oil or salve.
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: floydian June 29, 2007, 04:09:29 AM


How do you keep plantain in your medicine cabinet?  Whenever we pick it, it just dries out.  How do you keep it fresh?
I do dry it.  I crush it dried into tiny pieces and mix it with some oil or even water and apply it.  I am also planning on making it into an infused oil or salve.


Ohhhh.  I didn't know it worked that way.  We've had great success with it fresh.

I would really like to know how to make it into an infused oil/salve.  Would you be willing to start a thread on how to do that  or is it already on here somewhere?
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: floydian June 29, 2007, 05:02:38 AM


How do you keep plantain in your medicine cabinet?  Whenever we pick it, it just dries out.  How do you keep it fresh?
I do dry it.  I crush it dried into tiny pieces and mix it with some oil or even water and apply it.  I am also planning on making it into an infused oil or salve.


Ohhhh.  I didn't know it worked that way.  We've had great success with it fresh.

I would really like to know how to make it into an infused oil/salve.  Would you be willing to start a thread on how to do that  or is it already on here somewhere?


 :-[
<sheepish>
Thanks HB
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: Mrs. B June 29, 2007, 01:56:16 PM
http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,2569.msg1154.html#msg1154 (http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,2569.msg1154.html#msg1154)
I hope this is the right link; it was in the making tinctures.  This is the warm method, but there is a cold method that is pretty much the same as making a tincture, just use your oil (ie grapeseed) instead of alcohol. 
To make this into a salve, you would heat the mix and melt about 1 tbsp of beeswax into each 4 oz of oil.
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: floydian June 30, 2007, 09:23:02 AM
http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,2569.msg1154.html#msg1154 (http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,2569.msg1154.html#msg1154)
I hope this is the right link; it was in the making tinctures.  This is the warm method, but there is a cold method that is pretty much the same as making a tincture, just use your oil (ie grapeseed) instead of alcohol. 
To make this into a salve, you would heat the mix and melt about 1 tbsp of beeswax into each 4 oz of oil.

Cool thanks!!
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: GarlicMomma July 02, 2007, 05:03:02 PM
Is there a difference in the strength in plantain around the country?

I got stung by a wasp (or something - only heard it buzz and then the wammo!  :o) on Friday morn. I tried everything including the plantain and nothing worked. Went to the doctor yesterday for steriods and now the swelling is just going down.

I was real surprised that the plantain didn't help at all. I live in northwest/middle TN near the KY border. Has anyone else had this experience?
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: Mrs. B July 02, 2007, 06:18:30 PM
I do know that there are different varieties of plantain, wide-leaf and narrow-leaf.  I have always preferred the wide-leaf variety, personally.  I honestly don't know about how soil or climate would affect the strength of any herb, or if it does at all.  We're in NW GA and I have always had good luck with using it.
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: murfette July 03, 2007, 03:39:44 AM
Last year I made a salve from melting some Vaseline and then cooking plaintain and a cut up aloe vera leaf in it.  I then put it back in the container and use it for every skin ailment in the family.  We love it and it works great.  I didn’t dry it out before using it but just picked it from my backyard and washed it.

Last week my 2 year old ended up in the emergency room when his toe nail was pushed up and back from a door hitting it.  When he got home his toe was dark, black and bruised looking.  The next day I put a huge gob of the salve on his toe and wrapped a bandage around it (I didn’t think of doing this until the next day.).  About 5 hours later I checked it and it looked totally healed!  It was pink and healthy looking.  Before I did that he wouldn’t walk anywhere but had to be carried.  But after the treatment he was touching the toe himself and walking around as if nothing had happened.  I will be making more and giving this stuff away to friends now.

A year ago my dad used the stuff on his dog's ears because his dog scratched them raw.  They totally healed up over night.
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: sweetestday July 03, 2007, 08:04:12 AM
When you make this, does it change the color of the Vaseline? I put a bunch of (cut up) fresh leaves in some melted Vaseline and simmered them on the lowest setting on my stove till the leaves were wilted and discolored, then added another bunch of fresh leaves and kept it on low till they were also wilted and discolored. I strained it, put it back in the container, and it's almost the same color as the Vaseline I started with. Did I do it the right way?
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: floydian July 03, 2007, 08:36:35 AM
Would this work if you used coconut oil instead of vaseline?
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: YoopreMama July 03, 2007, 09:49:18 AM
Would this work if you used coconut oil instead of vaseline?
After trying it out w/ Vaseline, I made some w/ coconut oil last year...w/ some beeswax, too, I think, so it would solidify.  Mine was green.  Did your aloe make it froth?
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: floydian July 03, 2007, 10:52:27 AM
Would this work if you used coconut oil instead of vaseline?
After trying it out w/ Vaseline, I made some w/ coconut oil last year...w/ some beeswax, too, I think, so it would solidify.  Mine was green.  Did your aloe make it froth?

How long would this last?  Would you necessarily need to use the beeswax if you kept it in the fridge along side the goot?
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: YoopreMama July 03, 2007, 12:15:00 PM
Would this work if you used coconut oil instead of vaseline?
After trying it out w/ Vaseline, I made some w/ coconut oil last year...w/ some beeswax, too, I think, so it would solidify.  Mine was green.  Did your aloe make it froth?
How long would this last?  Would you necessarily need to use the beeswax if you kept it in the fridge along side the goot?
I don't think you'd need the beeswax if you refrigerate it.  I've done that.  :)
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: healthybratt July 03, 2007, 01:23:22 PM
Would this work if you used coconut oil instead of vaseline?
After trying it out w/ Vaseline, I made some w/ coconut oil last year...w/ some beeswax, too, I think, so it would solidify.  Mine was green.  Did your aloe make it froth?

How long would this last?  Would you necessarily need to use the beeswax if you kept it in the fridge along side the goot?
If you refidgerate it, it will be so hard, you won't even be able to scoop it out with a knife.  You may want to half/half with olive oil.  It will still get hard, but it will scoop with a spoon.
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: Mrs. B July 03, 2007, 01:51:54 PM
I think you could possibly store it in a dark, cool place like a pantry if you add a preservative like Vit E oil or GSE.  Be careful since you live in a warm climate.  I'm finding mold on everything that wasn't in the frig since it started raining and is still so hot.
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: murfette July 10, 2007, 02:43:10 AM
When you make this, does it change the color of the Vaseline? I put a bunch of (cut up) fresh leaves in some melted Vaseline and simmered them on the lowest setting on my stove till the leaves were wilted and discolored, then added another bunch of fresh leaves and kept it on low till they were also wilted and discolored. I strained it, put it back in the container, and it's almost the same color as the Vaseline I started with. Did I do it the right way?

When I made it with Vaseline and Aloe it did stay pretty much the same color as the Vaseline.  I do see some flecks of the Plantain in it.  I simmered it all for awhile until it stopped frothing because using Aloe makes it froth up.  As soon as it cooled I was able to use it right away.  I have never stored it in the fridge.  I made it last October and it still works great.

My dad wants me to make a big batch for everyone in the family because he loves the results too.  This time I will put it in baby food jars so it is more portable and can be given to more people than a big jar of Vaseline.

I also want to try making the coconut oil/beeswax method.  How do you make it this way?  Do you cook it up the same as Vaseline?

How do you make it the olive oil/beeswax way?  Does the beeswax added to olive oil cause it to solidify to Vaseline consistancy?  I am looking for it to be more of a salve and not a liquid when I apply it.
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: YoopreMama July 10, 2007, 03:15:19 AM
I also want to try making the coconut oil/beeswax method.  How do you make it this way?  Do you cook it up the same as Vaseline?

How do you make it the olive oil/beeswax way?  Does the beeswax added to olive oil cause it to solidify to Vaseline consistancy?  I am looking for it to be more of a salve and not a liquid when I apply it.
I think your questions are answered earlier in this thread, but this one has tips, too:
Vaseline Substitute (http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,1099.msg90472.html#msg90472)   :)
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: healthybratt July 10, 2007, 05:27:24 AM
How do you make it the olive oil/beeswax way?  Does the beeswax added to olive oil cause it to solidify to Vaseline consistancy?  I am looking for it to be more of a salve and not a liquid when I apply it.
Non Petrolium Jelly (http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,1099.0.html)
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: *MommaJo* July 10, 2007, 05:20:28 PM
I had to share my plantain story with you.
I got stung on the wrist 3 times today by a hornet!  OUCH!  My dad was there and the first thing I thought of was his remedy - lay a cut onion in the area.  So I ran into the house and did that.  Then my dad took over and started rubbing it a little too hard.  Then I remembered plantain!  He said there is some growing near the garden.  So I ran out, grabbed a few leaves, CHEWED them, and put it on the stings.  I have a weak stomach and the thought only made me gag once.  But in hind site, it didn't even taste bad.
The pain went away, though it was swollen for about an hour, and even now, I can't even tell that I was stung!

THANK YOU WELLTELLME

I'd never heard of plantain before you!

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: Aura August 22, 2007, 11:24:33 AM
My dd just got stung by a wasp. In the house, of all places.  >:(  I immediately thought about plantain.

First thing I did was slap an ice cube on it. While dd was holding that, I grabbed some dried plantain that I'd ordered from the Bulk Herb Store and put it in a coffee cup and poured hot water (from the tap, but ours gets about 130 degrees). I let it sit only for about a minute then pulled some out and smeared on her hand and covered with a sock (cut the top off so it made like an elasticized cloth bandage).

I left that on for about ten minutes, then replaced the plantain with the rest that had been steeping in the hot water. About five minutes later, she asked if she could take it off because it was starting to sting worse.  ??? So I did.

I just checked on her again (now about 10 minutes after I removed it) and she said it feels better. But why would it sting worse? Any ideas?

Also, I was reading some of the earlier posts about making ice cubes with plantain tea...how do you think that would work for stings/bites?
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: Aura August 23, 2007, 04:36:01 AM
Dd woke up this morning saying her hand hurt (the sting). Did I do something wrong? I thought it shouldn't hurt anymore. I'm going to try to put some more on again, but will it be helpful this late after the initial sting?
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: Mrs. B August 23, 2007, 04:52:37 AM
It sounds like you did everything right.  You could continue the plantain, but you could also try goot if you have it or could make it.  I find that for older stings/bites a mix of goot and plantain works well and the goot helps with some of the pain (or at least it has for me).
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: healthybratt August 24, 2007, 08:58:41 AM
Also, I was reading some of the earlier posts about making ice cubes with plantain tea...how do you think that would work for stings/bites?
My daughter was stung by a wasp and I used a baking soda paste and within 10 minutes the pain and the swelling was gone.  Check this thread out for more on this and other ideas for stings.

Bee, Wasp, Hornet & Other Insect Stings (http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,1013.0.html)
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: BJ_BOBBI_JO September 02, 2007, 03:36:50 PM
I have been doing more research on plantain. I figured that it must have internal uses as well. And it does. What a little Miracle herb plantain is to not only be of great helpfulness on our skin but also has healthy benefits  when eaten as well. This site below tells some of the many things plantain can help. It is also high in some vitmins.

Who would ever guess it can help some  stop smoking? Or help with bladder conditions?

http://altnature.com/gallery/plantain.htm
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: mexmarr September 21, 2007, 08:40:30 AM
Hi, I have some dried plantain from The Bulk Herb Store.  Can you give me some suggestions on how to use the dried.  I suppose that you don't just chew it up.

What all can you use it for?
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: Simply Kristen September 21, 2007, 08:51:39 AM
You can use it it for a poultice!
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: mexmarr September 21, 2007, 09:05:55 AM
You can use it it for a poultice!

What kind of things would you use a plantain poultice for?

How do you make  the dried plantain into a poultice?

P.S Kristen, your pic is so cute!
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: Gigi September 21, 2007, 09:11:08 AM
You can make a salve, too.  This would keep quite a while and it would be in a user-ready format for boo-boos and bites.
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: Simply Kristen September 21, 2007, 09:23:43 AM
You can use it it for a poultice!

What kind of things would you use a plantain poultice for?

How do you make  the dried plantain into a poultice?

P.S Kristen, your pic is so cute!

What to use it for:
anything you want to DRAW out the poisons/properties.....or to decrease pain
bug bites
Poison Ivy
blemishes
and so much more!

Actually, I just learned how to do it!
Take the dried Plantain...put it in hot water (just enough to wet the herbs). Let the herbs sit for 5 min. Take the wet herbs and put on a cheese cloth (or other cloth). You may have to squeeze out a bit of water.
Let herbs sit for however long you want! (maybe 15-20 min)

Thanks!
I posted the big pict in Chat and Whatever.  ;)
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: healthybratt September 24, 2007, 08:06:34 AM
Hi, I have some dried plantain from The Bulk Herb Store.  Can you give me some suggestions on how to use the dried.  I suppose that you don't just chew it up.

What all can you use it for?
You can make tea and then use the tea on a cloth for bumps, bruises, cuts, etc or you can freeze it into cubes for later use on the same injuries.  It's worked this way for me many times.  The tea soak saved my son from an ER visit and possibly stitches.   ;D
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: *MommaJo* October 05, 2007, 04:10:36 AM
I dried some plantain last year for emergency poultices. Just rinsed the leaves w/ water and laid them out on a bath towel in a semi-dark corner, turned them everyday and when they were totally crisp packaged them in a paper sack. ..............

I want to harvest some plantain today to dry and have for winter.  I wondered if I use the above technique if anyone knows about how many days it'll take for them to dry.
Also, would it be better to dry them outside or inside?  We are expecting hot temps here (70-80) for the next several days. 
Please help.  Thanks!

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: Gigi October 06, 2007, 08:24:27 AM
I would just do it inside - it only takes a few days - maybe 4 at the most???  I seem to remember it happened quicker than I thought it would.  I'm no expert, though.

HTH

I dried some plantain last year for emergency poultices. Just rinsed the leaves w/ water and laid them out on a bath towel in a semi-dark corner, turned them everyday and when they were totally crisp packaged them in a paper sack. ..............

I want to harvest some plantain today to dry and have for winter.  I wondered if I use the above technique if anyone knows about how many days it'll take for them to dry.
Also, would it be better to dry them outside or inside?  We are expecting hot temps here (70-80) for the next several days. 
Please help.  Thanks!


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: *MommaJo* October 06, 2007, 02:17:56 PM
Thanks!  I didn't know we were expecting rain so they got rained on yesterday! 
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: Nickole April 19, 2008, 01:29:24 PM
Love that plantain.  My 8.5 yo. son just got stung on the earlobe of all places INSIDE THE HOUSE by a wasp and he's a tough cookie but he was crying pretty hard.  It really hurt!  Funny thing is he came to me calmly rubbing his ear, saying, "I think I just got stung by a wasp on my ear"  then almost immediately, I guess the pain set in, b/c he was like, "YEOW!  I THINK I GOT STUNG BY A WASP ON MY EAR!!! AHHHHH!!!"  Anyway, I immediately held a cottonball soaked in plantain tincture on the area and it was instant pain relief.  Taking it off too early and the pain came back.  After about 10-15 minutes of him holding it there, no more pain.  His earlobe is red and may be swollen but it's hard to tell.  Yay for plantain!
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: amandamook April 21, 2008, 06:24:13 PM
Tonight I was talking to my brother in my parents' front yard when I realized I was standing in an ant pile. Aaahh! After I got all the ants off my feet and flip flops, I applied plantain salve on all the bites. Now, they are all gone. I can't tell where I was bitten. The ants got me between the toes. Ouch!! I usually scratch bits until the scab.

I love this stuff!!!

I currently use my plantain salve for:

bug bites
skin rashes
dry hands and cuticles
chapped lips (I don't know if the plantain helps my lips but the olive oil and beeswax in the salve feels good and it's nice to use just one product for everything. I believe in small diaper bags!)
diaper rash
sunburn
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: Leilani May 25, 2008, 12:00:01 PM
is there any reason why you couldn't throw fresh plantain leaves in the blender with coconut oil and EVOO? To make a salve to be stored in the fridge? I don't plan to strain it.  ???
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: naturalgirl May 25, 2008, 12:41:18 PM
Do you think plantain could help athlete's foot? How would I apply it (other than not the salve ;D) ?
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: Mrs. B May 25, 2008, 12:54:02 PM
Do you think plantain could help athlete's foot? How would I apply it (other than not the salve ;D) ?
I'm not sure about it's antifungal properties, but you could consider making a tincture with apple cider vinegar and plantain as seen in Shoshanna's dvd, Making Herbs Simple.
Basically it it tintured the same way as a vodka tincture is, just with ACV.
I rub it on things using a cotton ball or paper towel.
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: Leilani May 25, 2008, 01:11:49 PM
Do you think plantain could help athlete's foot? How would I apply it (other than not the salve ;D) ?

Do you think you could just pour hot water over the leaves in a tub and let it cool and stick your feet in?  I suppose that wouldn't be real practical if you needed to do it a few times a day. You could leave the tub out and just stick your feet in every so often. Probably would need to be made new every day though.
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: Mrs. B May 25, 2008, 01:12:39 PM
is there any reason why you couldn't throw fresh plantain leaves in the blender with coconut oil and EVOO? To make a salve to be stored in the fridge? I don't plan to strain it.  ???
Sounds good to me...
I was thinking about making a salve like this but modifying the goot to contain the plantain also...did this make any sense?
Basically make goot, but add some fresh plantain to the garlic in the blender.
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: Leilani May 25, 2008, 06:07:18 PM
went and got a bunch of leaves (and two plants that are now in our flower box)  mixed them in the blender with EVOO and coconut oil. Slathered it on myself and DS who also has a sunburn. I'll let you know the results tomorrow.  ;D I can say for myself that hot feeling you have when you know you got burnt is totally gone.
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: joshs_rebekah May 29, 2008, 01:25:56 AM
So, I don't know much about plantain...But I am learning.

When my husband was bit by a bull dog, I gathered a bunch of plantain leaves, crushed some garlic and put both into raw honey.  It hasn't been used, but could you herbal gurus tell me if it would have done any good, or if I wasted raw honey?

Also, my Man is REALLY detail oriented in some areas, this being one of them.  So my question about plantain...do I need to be VERY precise in amounts and proportions when mixing it in anything?

Thanks!
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: CarlyB May 30, 2008, 05:29:01 AM
Mrs.B...did you make your plantain like GOOT yet?

Leilani...Did the plantain for sunburn work?

I got stung by a wasp and had nothing but ice on hand. Now I am trying to prepare just incase something happens again. My wasp sting is very itchy today too. Time to make a salve.
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: Mrs. B May 30, 2008, 05:42:15 AM


Also, my Man is REALLY detail oriented in some areas, this being one of them.  So my question about plantain...do I need to be VERY precise in amounts and proportions when mixing it in anything?

Thanks!
I've never been real precise with plantain... or the proportions.  I've used it on small kids and big grown ups with good effects and no adverse reactions that I could tell or note.
Mrs.B...did you make your plantain like GOOT yet?
I've been really lazy lately, but maybe I'll get motivated and make some tomorrow.... I'll let you know....
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: petrimama May 30, 2008, 03:05:13 PM
I have literally chewed and spit plantain on a stings when there was no other option around.  :P So I vote that it's not necessary to be precise.
As far as I know, the only warnings about plantain are in regards to eating it while pregnant.  Topically, it's as safe as anything can be.  Honey and garlic are pretty harmless too, so go slather some goo on hubby and let us know how it works. ;)  ~L
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: khix June 16, 2008, 08:09:24 AM
There are no plantain plants in my yard or around my area that I'm aware of.  But, today at the health food store, I saw that they had plantain extract...would that work just as well as the plant leaves?  If so, how would you use it?
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: healthyinOhio June 16, 2008, 08:17:47 AM
I saw that they had plantain extract...would that work just as well as the plant leaves?  If so, how would you use it?

You mean, like a tincture?  If it is a tincture, then you can put it on your skin for acne, bites, pull poison out, etc.  HTH!
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: lotsagirls June 16, 2008, 12:18:19 PM
If I make a tea with my dried plantain can I apply it to dd's eye?
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: khix June 17, 2008, 02:19:24 AM
I saw that they had plantain extract...would that work just as well as the plant leaves?  If so, how would you use it?

You mean, like a tincture?  If it is a tincture, then you can put it on your skin for acne, bites, pull poison out, etc.  HTH!

I think it's a tincture...not sure.  It has distilled water, 27% ethanol, & plantain leaf.  It says shake well before using.
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: Mama Bear June 18, 2008, 01:40:01 AM
I have heard about this herb (?) Weed (?) for some time...even have a salve that I bought that has it in it...We love the salve but can't find it locally anymore.... so, DD had what I 'thought' might be poision ivy on her leg...we tried everything...nothing was making it go away but it wasn't spreading either. Finally, I decided to make a poltice with some plantain....2 days later her spot on her leg was dried up completely!!!
Sooooo...yesterday evening....the little kids and I were out foraging for plantain...we looked so funny roaming the yard!! I made salve last night and am going to give one to a friend...do you have a favorite plantain recipe? the one I got was 1 cup lard and 1lb planatain...melt the lard, add plantain and cook down on low heat till all is green and mushy...strain out and let set back up....wha la....SALVE!!!!
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: prairiechild June 18, 2008, 03:15:11 AM
I would definitely use coconut oil instead of the lard. Add a bit of beeswax if you want it stiff, as coconut oil melts above 76 degrees.
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: Mrs. B June 18, 2008, 03:44:01 AM
I personally prefer olive oil salves with a bit of bees' wax added in, but that is just my personal preference.
I make a plantain salve that I call Itchy Salve that contains: plantain, comfrey, calendula, marshmallow root, chamomile, thyme, and rosemary.
I also add GSE and essential oils of eucalyptus and rosemary.

I also recently made a Green GOOT... I made traditional GOOT, but infused the olive oil with plantain prior to doing so.  Seems to work well so far...
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: lewisquiverfull June 18, 2008, 05:14:10 AM
I am sorry if I am repeating something, I don't have time to read all the pages right now. We are about to go pick some plantain (whole field of it) and I am wanting to make a tincture and salve with it. Is it better to dry it before I do the salve? Also, someone is borrowing my dvd, does Shoshana use white vinegar or apple cider vinegar to make the tincture, and is that all she adds to it?
Does anyone have a tried and true salve recipe??
Thanks so much!!

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: Roehrmomma June 18, 2008, 05:21:48 AM
Is it better to dry it before I do the salve? Also, someone is borrowing my dvd, does Shoshana use white vinegar or apple cider vinegar to make the tincture, and is that all she adds to it?
Does anyone have a tried and true salve recipe??
Thanks so much!!



No need to dry it first.

Apple cider vinegar is what I use. Pretty sure she did too.

That is all that is added. (plantain and vinegar)

I just fudge my salves so no recipe here...
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: Mama Bear June 18, 2008, 09:58:36 AM
Can you use a plantain poultice on an open wound?
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: LKS June 19, 2008, 07:04:24 AM
I would say 'yes' because I used when my son got a huge rope burn that was about 2in wide & 6 in long & raw. It helped a great deal.
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: Whiterock June 19, 2008, 05:40:31 PM
Y'all may already know this (it may already be posted somewhere), but I found out a while back, kept intending to post it, and kept forgetting (seeing some plantain seedheads in the yard today reminded me)... plantain seeds are psyllium!

So go out and gather the seeds as well as the leaves!

Man, plantain is such a useful plant, ain't it?!

WR
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: healthybratt June 20, 2008, 03:30:48 AM
Can you use a plantain poultice on an open wound?
Absolutely!!!!  We do it all the time.  ;D
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: healthybratt June 20, 2008, 03:31:53 AM
Y'all may already know this (it may already be posted somewhere), but I found out a while back, kept intending to post it, and kept forgetting (seeing some plantain seedheads in the yard today reminded me)... plantain seeds are psyllium!

So go out and gather the seeds as well as the leaves!

Man, plantain is such a useful plant, ain't it?!

WR
I looked this up as I was curious about your other post.  This is what I found on psyllium.

Definitions of Psyllium on the Web:

    * A plant, also known as "fleawort," that is valued for its high fiber content. The powdered seeds of this plant are often used as a laxative.
      www.dietsoftware.org/nutseed.shtml
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: SamsGirl June 20, 2008, 03:34:01 AM
Yes, and is nice and easy for emergency's because you can normally just walk out into your backyard and get it.....my 8 yo brother was in need of some just 3 days ago and my mom sent my sister outside with a walmart bag and she gathered a whole bag in less than 5 mins..... :)
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: Whiterock June 20, 2008, 04:59:33 AM
Y'all may already know this (it may already be posted somewhere), but I found out a while back, kept intending to post it, and kept forgetting (seeing some plantain seedheads in the yard today reminded me)... plantain seeds are psyllium!

So go out and gather the seeds as well as the leaves!

Man, plantain is such a useful plant, ain't it?!

WR
I looked this up as I was curious about your other post.  This is what I found on psyllium.

Definitions of Psyllium on the Web:

    * A plant, also known as "fleawort," that is valued for its high fiber content. The powdered seeds of this plant are often used as a laxative.
      www.dietsoftware.org/nutseed.shtml

Yeah, I found that it's sometimes called fleawort or flea plant too because of the tiny seeds. I will post more on the other thread when I get back from my milk run.

WR
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: AgainstTheGrain June 27, 2008, 07:17:23 PM
I was so disappointed 2 years ago when there was NO plantain in our yard because we had new sod from new construction :-\  BUT then last year I noticed some right next to my garden!! ;D Yeah!! The perfect spot. So, this year I told DH not to mow it around the garden so I could have some big plants to dry/use. I'm so excited!! :D ;D 

Now the seeds too!! How great since mine have some tall spiky seeds. So, then my question is . . . Is there a "best time" to pick and dry the seeds/psyllium? And what would you use it for? Are there medicinal qualities? In my short search it seems the biggest thing is the fiber content :-\
_____________
Never mind - I found the thread on Psyllium
http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,18992.0.html



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: Whiterock July 01, 2008, 08:31:08 AM
I posted the link to this page somewhere, but I thought I'd go ahead and post the info too...

Kingdom: Plantae (plants)
 Subkingdom: Tracheobionta (vascular plants)
 Superdivision: Spermatophyta (seed plants)
 Division: Magnoliophyta (flowering plants)
 Class: Magnoliopsida (dicotyledons)
 Subclass: Asteridae
 Order: Plantaginales
 Family: Plantaginaceae (Plantain family)
 Genus: Plantago (plantain)
 Species: Plantago major
 Common Plantain
 
   Common Plantain came to the United States with the Europeans. The native Americans, observing its spread, named it "white man's footprint" or "Englishman's foot". Perhaps they saw the same resemblance to feet (or affinity for paths) as the Greeks. "Plantago" is derived from a Latin word meaning "sole of the foot". Plantain is now naturalized throughout the United States.

   This is a perennial plant, which dies to the ground each winter and sprouts anew from its fibrous taproot around mid-spring. The oval, ribbed, short-stemmed leaves form basal rosettes which tend to hug the ground. The leaves may grow up to about 6" long and 4" wide.

   Between early summer and late fall, leafless flower stalks, 6" to 18" tall, arise from the center of the rosette. The flower stalks bear densely packed greenish white flowers each of which will become a small capsule-like seedpod containing 10 to 20 seeds. When the seeds are mature, the seedpods split in half, and the seeds fall to the ground to start the whole thing over.
 
   I commonly find plantain in gardens and lawns, along trails, in sidewalk cracks, and in similar habitats. It prefers full sun, but will grow in partial shade. It also prefers rich moist soil, but it will grow even in poor, fairly dry soils.

   Plantain is edible. The very young leaves can be added to salads, or cooked as greens. The leaves do become stringy and strongly flavored rather quickly as they age, particularly where they grow in hot, dry, or very sunny locations. This does not mean they are no longer edible, only that at this point, they are better suited to making stock or tea.

   Plantain is very high in beta carotene (A) and calcium. It also provides ascorbic acid (C).

   The immature flower stalks may be eaten raw or cooked. The seeds are said to have a nutty flavor and may be parched and added to a variety of foods or ground into flour.
 
   Among the more notable chemicals found in plantain are allantion, apigenin, aucubin, baicalein, linoleic acid, oleanolic acid, sorbitol, and tannin.

   Medicinally, plantain is astringent, demulcent, emollient, cooling, vulnerary, expectorant, antimicrobial, antiviral, antitoxin, and diuretic. It effects blood sugar, usually lowering it. It has been used to treat lung disorders and stomach problems. For these purposes, a tea is made from either the leaves or the whole plant and taken internally. This same tea may be used as a mouthwash to treat sores in the mouth and toothaches. It may also be used externally to treat sores, blisters, insect bites and stings, hemorrhoids, burns, rashes, and other skin irritations. Alternatively, a poultice of the leaves may be applied to the afflicted area. This is probably plantain's most common use. For relief from a bee sting or insect bite, simply shred (or chew) a plantain leaf and hold it on the bite for a few minutes.

   I've begun making a plantain ointment which is proving to be remarkably effective. Reports so far (and personal experience) indicate that it very rapidly relieves itching and swelling from bee stings, insect bites, poison ivy rash, and other allergic rashes. It also seems to speed healing of sores and bruises. The best part is that not only does this ointment work as well as or better than the usual commercial preparations, it's also completely non-toxic.

   I should add that plantain is currently being marketed as a stop smoking aid. The claim is that it causes an aversion to tobacco. I suppose the simple version of this would be to chew on a plantain leaf whenever you want to smoke. Doing this will freshen your breath, at least, and who knows, maybe you won't want that cigarette so much.

   Plantain seeds are very high in mucilage and fiber, among other things. The seeds of a closely related species (P. psyllium) are the primary ingredient in laxatives such as Metamucil. Common plantain seeds may be used in the same fashion.

   The plant provides food for butterfly caterpillars, rabbits, deer, and grouse. A wide variety of birds eat the seeds.

   To control or eradicate plantain, pull up the plants before they go to seed, or cover them with a thick layer of mulch. The best long-term control for plantain in a lawn is probably to shade it out, which can be done simply by setting your lawnmower a bit higher.

 http://www.kingdomplantae.net/commonPlantain.php
: Re: Plantain: When, Why & How to Use
: redeemed July 07, 2008, 05:53:02 PM
Being very new to herbs, it all seems a bit overwhelming (tincture vs. salve...differing recipes...), but exciting, too! My biggest question is about heating the plantain--
I've read you can let it soak in water or alcohol for a couple weeks and press it out, but you can also cook it in vaseline or beeswax. Won't the heat destroy some/all of it's properties?
: Re: Plantain: When, Why & How to Use
: Mrs. B July 08, 2008, 05:36:51 AM
Being very new to herbs, it all seems a bit overwhelming (tincture vs. salve...differing recipes...), but exciting, too! My biggest question is about heating the plantain--
I've read you can let it soak in water or alcohol for a couple weeks and press it out, but you can also cook it in vaseline or beeswax. Won't the heat destroy some/all of it's properties?
When you "cook" it you don't bring it to a real high temperature; you wouldn't boil the herb... my salves tend to be around 180 degrees for anywhere from 2-4 hours if done on the stovetop.
Also think of it as being like a tea... you heat the water to release the herbal properties from the plant and put it into the water to drink...
Heating the herb in an oil to make a salve draws out the properties of the herb, and doesn't destroy these properties.  This way the herbal properties are transferred into the oil and can then be more readily utilized and absorbed into the skin.
: Re: Plantain: When, Why & How to Use
: hi_itsgwen October 28, 2008, 09:13:17 AM
I was asked how to make plantain salve, so I decided to post it here for future reference:

Plantain Salve

It is a very useful, all purpose skin healer for insect bites, poison ivy, etc.  The plantain speeds circulation to the area, and is anti-inflammatory.  We have noticed that it quickly erases the pain, itching, and swelling from all kinds of insect bites and stings, as well as poisonous plant encounters. 

Here is how I make my plantain salve. 

What you’ll need:
A small saucepan
Small jars or tins with lids to pour your finished salve into
The herbs listed below (dried or fresh both work well)
Olive oil (Vaseline can be used, but we prefer a natural oil to a petroleum based product)

Optional:
Beeswax -this hardens the oil into a salve consistency…the olive oil works just fine without it, but the harder salve is less messy, which we like.
Lavender oil (as a preservative)

Ingredients:
3/4 c. Plantain (you can also add complimentary herbs...Comfrey and Burdock are great skin healing herbs as well...use equal parts of each herb to yeild a total of 3/4 cup of herbs)
1 c. Olive oil
1/4 c. Beeswax
35 drops Lavender oil (optional: speeds healing and acts as a natural preservative)
2 small or 1 large fresh aloe leaves, scraped (optional: speeds healing, cools and soothes irritated skin)

If using fresh herbs, rinse them off and coarsely chop them.  Mix herbs and olive oil.  (reserving aloe and lavender for later)

Stir the herbs down into the oil, and turn on the heat to very low*. 

Keep the heat low, and allow to cook until the herbs are dry and crispy looking and the oil is dark green.  This may take anywhere from one to three hours. 

Pour your herb mix through a strainer into a larger heat proof bowl**. Press the herbs with the back of a spoon to extract all the oil you can, then discard the herbs.  **I use my glass mixing bowl so that I can see how many cups I made, as I have a tendancy to just dump stuff in and not measure. 

Grate in 1/4 c of beeswax per cup of olive oil mix, and let it melt into the warm salve.  Stir until it melts, then stick your spoon in the fridge for a minute to check consistency.  If your mix is too mushy, then add more grated beeswax and melt in, testing again.  If it is solid enough, then mix in the aloe and lavender oil (5 drops per ounce of oil), and pour into your containers. 

Some other tips:
Jot down any notes on your recipe as you go, or as soon as you’re done: your methods, changes, measurements, and total yield and note any changes you’d like to make for next time. 
Label and date all of your containers. 
We like to store ours in the fridge, as we like it to be cold. 
I have used Altoids or old candle tins, or mini plastic containers from the dollar tree to put the salve into.  I have also considered adding in more beeswax, and using a chapstick container for a travel version for my purse. 
You can make pretty labels with instructions for use if you'd like...I end up giving a lot of it away...and it's always much appreciated!

~Gwen


* Crock Pot Method: If your stove won’t co-operate with very low temps, you may alternately use the following crock pot method of making a salve.  It will take longer, but it works just as well.  Fill a glass canning jar with your herbs and oil.  Place a folded washcloth or kitchen towel into the bottom of your crockpot.  Put your glass jar in on top of the towel. Fill your crock pot with water, so your jar is sitting in a ‘bath’.  Turn it on low heat.  Allow it to cook at a very low simmer.  You can let it go overnight, or up to a couple of days, until the herbs are crispy and the oil is dark green.  Continue with recipe above.

And here are some links that I've found to be helpful.

Gwen’s Plantain Salve
http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,289.msg204365.html#msg204365

Q&A on salve making with Shoshanna
http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,8494.msg118843.html#msg118843

Bulk Herb Store “Poison Ivy on the Run Oil” recipe:
http://www.bulkherbstore.com/sharing-remedies/poison-ivy-on-the-run

Bulk Herb Store “Simple Green Plantain Salve” recipe:
http://www.bulkherbstore.com/sharing-remedies/simple-green-plantain-salve

: Re: Plantain: When, Why & How to Use
: Lady of the Wood August 15, 2013, 08:21:41 AM
Is plantain used for burns? My friend got a burn from a campfire and I put plantain oil on it and it started stinging. now I know that St. John's wort is better for burns. :) Thank you in advance!

-Lady of the Wood