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Remedies & Therapies => Cleansing & the GI Tract => : Charis March 22, 2006, 05:59:15 AM

: Acid Reflux: Symptoms & Treatments
: Charis March 22, 2006, 05:59:15 AM
Hey, does anyone have any natural ways to treat reflux in babies? My son was sent to the neonatal unit 1 day after his home birth. he had finished nursing and about an hour later started chocking on some pale orangeish colored mucusy stuff. The color of my colostrum which was all he was getting at this point. Any way he turned blue and wouldn't breath. I gave him oxygen via mouth to mouth after failed attempts to clear his airway. This finally worked and by then the paramedics had arrived. They sent him to a local emergency room where they poked and prodded and the pediatrician on call, who does not like women or midwives, immediately "assumed" that he was septic. Any way  after an 8 day stay in the neonatal with a plethora of tests, including an upper GI barium, all the tests came back negative. They put him on regglan and discharged him with a prescription which I did not fill. Regglan has some of the same side effects as an anti-depressant! He was an extremely cranky baby. I discovered that my drinking milk was causing his fussiness. He has been a different child since I quit drinking milk!? He also gets regular chiropractic adjustments which help with his infrequent bowel movements. Please! Any information will help! He is 5 months old now
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: mamasboys March 22, 2006, 07:49:06 AM
Was he diagnosed with reflux when he was born?  Is he still spitting up most of his feedings?  Are you breast feeding or supplementing with formula? 
My oldest son spit up horribly even after he was a year old and it looked like most of what he drank.  When he was about 6 mos old I finally figured out he had a milk allergy and put him on soy which turned out to be even worse!  If you are breastfeeding, I would follow an elimination diet and cut out all common allergens from your diet and keep a journal and see if you notice any changes in him.  Common allergens are dairy, soy, eggs, nuts, wheat but also keep in mind that food additives and colors are allergens as well.  I've also found that my son reacts to pasturized homogonized milk but not raw cows milk.
If you are using formula or supplementing with formula, I would recommend using goats milk intstead.  Its proteins are closest to mothers milk and easier on the tummy than formula or cows milk.  If you can find a source for raw goat milk, then that's even better! 
Finally but most importantly, pray!  After watching my son suffer for 2 years (along with throwing up he also had horrible eczema that constantly itched and bled) he was finally diagnosed with severe allergies.  I mean he was even allergic to apples and bananas!  I prayed and sought out scriptrures about healing, brought him forward in church to be prayed for and annointed several times.  It was the day that I brought him forward and just gave him to the Lord to do with as He pleased that he was finally healed.  I felt like Hannah giving Samuel to the priest. 
Within a week his symptoms cleared up and when I took him to the doctor, all of his allergy tests came back negative!!  Praise God!  He is 6 years old now and gets an occasional bout of eczema on his legs when he plays outside in the grass but an adjustment at the chiropractor clears it up! 
I know how hard it is to watch your baby suffer.  I will be praying for you and your son.
God Bless!
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: Charis March 22, 2006, 06:34:12 PM
Thanks for your prayers! He had an upper GI Barium to test for reflux when he was 5 days old. It came back negative, but they told me that often times they do. They put him on regglan while we were in the nicu, but as I wrote before, I took him off of it when he came home. It did nothing for the spitting up any way though. I only breastfeed and have eliminated dairy from my diet. My husband has found a source of fresh cow's milk from a friend so I might try that. I didn't know about the wheat and eggs though! So what can I eat? lol. My oldest daughter spit up a lot, but it was always right after she ate, not hours later like he is doing. His weight gain is great and he thankfully has no skin problems. I'll probably lose the extra pounds I need to with such a limited diet :). Thanks for the info!
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: mamasboys March 23, 2006, 09:11:24 AM
If you live close to a Trader Joes or Whole Foods or even just a good health food store then you have access to a whole variety of substitutions.  Spelt is a great substitute for wheat and is great for baking and breads.  You can also get a powdered egg substitute to use in baking recipes and do rice milk instead of soy.  Soy is a very common allergen as well and I would avoid it if you can.  There is a whole range of nut butters that can be used in place of peanut butter as well like almond, sesame and cashew butter.  Even someone with a peanut allergy can sometimes still have almond and cashew butter because they are tree nuts and your body often times reacts differently to those than to peanuts which grow in the ground.
Just try 1 mos of limiting your diet and keep a journal and see if you notice a change in his spitting up.  If not, well, you might just have a spitter on your hands.  As long as he is gaining weight and thriving, then I really wouldn't worry about it too much unless you feel like he is in pain due to a medical issue.  If your daughter was a spitter as well, then it might just be a genetic thing that they grow out of. 
One thing I did with my 2nd son (since I was so scared of having another with allergies!) was to hold off introducing solid foods until he was older.  If you introduce solids too early, they can develop allergies as well which might contribute to his spitting.   I'd start with making a homemade brown rice cereal (white rice is also an allergen, but brown rice is not).  We grind brown rice in a coffee grinder until it is powdery then add 1/4 c. to each cup of boiling water.  Boil 5 minutes and viola!  Homemade, healthy and a lot cheaper than buying rice cereal at the store.  Plus it's a great hot cereal for breakfast - my husband's favorite!  Add a bit of milk, some honey or brown sugar.... yum!
Anyway, I hope I'm not innundating you with too much here.  I spent several years educating myself about all this (we are in a small town and don't have a local allergist to provide any information) so I try to help out other mommies who might have kids with allergies.  If your son isn't showing any other signs (cradle cap?  Atopic dermatitis?) and is just spitting up, then it's pretty likely that he isn't anymore predisposed to allergies than the next kid, but I know as a mom that it's easier to handle when you feel like you can 'do' something.  And hey, it would certainly be a good way to lose those post-pg pounds!  haha! 
Good luck!!
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: Charis March 23, 2006, 01:52:34 PM
Thank you! Thank you! I love this sight! I was given the book to "Train Up a Child" by my midwife to see if I thought it was something she should give to all her ladies. WOW! I've since found so much helpfull info from all of the suggested websights. I have 5 kids, 9,7,5,3,& 5 months! We live in the country and I stay at home, so this as all been so exciting! I feel like a new mom and wife. Thank you Jesus. I can't wait till my supermom gets here and I am looking forward to doing all the cleanses when I am through breastfeeding ( which will be a while lol) .  ;D And yes she should give that book to every mom she knows! We might just start a revival! Love in Christ
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: mamasboys March 25, 2006, 05:38:03 AM
This is awesome!  I wasn't sure if I was the only one who stumbled here from No Greater Joy or not but this is awesome to have so many like-minded people in one place to help and encourage one another. 
I have 3 boys 6, 4 & 16 mos, at home mommy and live in the country as well.  It's saturday morning and my boys are getting a special treat of a video (so daddy can sleep in).  Their dad just got up and walked in the room and Josh said "Yea!  Dad's up, now we can go finish taking out that stump in the back"   ;D  I love that they prefer digging holes to watching videos!
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: 4myhoonie April 03, 2006, 06:13:29 PM
Hi Charis, just posting my 2 cents worth.  my Conner is 9 mo now, but used to spit up a lot (breastfed too) and could be uncomfortable or spit up hours after the feeding too when he was littler.  i connect his troubles with mine, as i have had food allergies and digestive problems for a long time.  i have been getting accupuncture for it which helps us both.  also i have been giving him 1/2 caplet of tummy tune up (beeyoutiful.com) daily in his baby food (room temp) and it really helps to keep him regular.  just thought this might help your baby with his infrequent bowel movements.  you could try other acidopholis supplements, but i've used this one or Natren's Bifido Factor with no problem.  it also has helped Conner to be less fussy.  i like both of these kinds cuz they're not dairy based.  Natren has one for babies, but it's milk based.  sounds like a really scary time you had when your baby was very small, the kind we all hope not to have.  sure glad you were able to save him! 
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: healthybratt April 09, 2006, 01:30:14 PM
Common allergens are dairy, soy, eggs, nuts, wheat

and...strawberries, tomatoes, and shellfish.
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: Helen April 11, 2006, 02:42:48 PM
My baby threw up all the time, projectile vomiting, untill I put him on Goats milk, I used the canned,
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: cbrownell April 16, 2006, 04:38:38 PM
Hey--I had a friend who had big healthy spitters for babies.  Fine now, but she got tired of changing her clothes.

   My premie had reflux, we gave him a baby zantac perscription and he was fiine.  We also had to keep him upright in a swing or seat and elevate his crib at one end.

 My daughter did well on goat's milk, canned, from Publix (7 years ago)
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: cbrownell April 16, 2006, 04:41:33 PM
Another thought--if your baby goes blue--clear the airway before blowing in.  I learned the hard way and tried for horrid minutes to get him breathing.    YOU HAVE TO TILT THE HEAD WAY DOWN  for a minute and give some pats .   For all you mommies -good to know.    (He's fine now)
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: Honey Bee June 14, 2006, 02:09:48 AM
For those who have babies with reflux, here is my experience.  My second son was born premature and suffered reflux until he was 9 months old. 

WE tummy slept him on an incline, I ate a very mild diet and breastfed him and we gave him prevacid which reduced his stomach acid.  This worked fairly well until my milk wasn't enough sustenance for him. 

When we introduced rice cereal, HE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH STOMACH ACID to digest food.  So, we stopped using the prevacid and put a teaspoon of apple cider vinegar in a bottle of expressed milk to ADD ACID to his belly.  It worked great.  We did this twice a day for about two months.  By a year, my son did not have reflux.

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: heuwood7 June 16, 2006, 02:11:33 PM
I have a spit-up question for you.  My son is almost 5 months old and has had reflux since he was born.  When he was first born we supplemented a little with some liquid Similac before we addressed the reflux problem and he did fine with the formula.  He seemed to digest it well.  We then put him on Zantac but he still spits up a lot.  I, too have been thinking that my milk is just not enough for him now, but since he's been on Zantac, we have tried twice with the powder Similac and he has vomited PROFUSELY both times.  This past week we thought maybe it was the Similac and so we tried liquid Good Start, since it has those comfort proteins, but he did the SAME THING.  We actually took him to the ER because he vomited so much we were afraid he would be dehydrated.  My husband thinks that it's the Zantac that's doing it, so we are weening him now.  What are your thoughts and what would you do?
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: nursegirl June 16, 2006, 04:30:24 PM
To the previous poster:

Zantac does nothing to help prevent reflux.  All it does is decrease the acidity of the stomach contents so that when reflux does occur, it doesn't cause as much damage to the esophagus.  I'm not sure about why he's spitting up the Similac so much, but if he is I would stop giving it.  If you feel like your milk is not enough for him, start him on some solid foods.  He's probably ready at his age.  Most people start with rice cereal, but I'm not convinced that that's necessary.  You could try mashed banana, squash, sweet potatoes, whatever your heart desires.  The key is to just introduce one food every few days, in case he has an allergic reaction to something, you'll know right away. 

My son also has reflux.  He was three months premature, and his is bad enough to cause a choking cough, and slowed weight gain.  So we have him on the Reglan and Zantac.  The Reglan really seems to help. 

You probably know this already, but always try to keep him inclined for at least 30 minutes after a feeding, and try to get his crib on an incline by elevating one end.  If he spits up with breast milk and formula, I think he's probably just a spitter.  If he gains weight well and doesn't choke on it, I wouldn't worry about it too much.  My first spit up ALL THE TIME and she gained weight and ate like a champ.  HTH!

Sarah
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: healthybratt June 16, 2006, 07:26:04 PM
Here's some info from an article I just found.  Very interesting.


from HerbalHealer.com (http://www.herbalhealer.com/newsletters/n0400.html) 
ACID REFLUX IS NOT A DISEASE!!!!

Gastroesophageal reflux disease (GERD), or chronic heartburn is a serious problem that is on the rise. It is diagnosed by conventional doctors and their treatments vary from the new FDA approved invasive endoscopic/radio frequency bombardment to sedation drugs to simple over the counter Malox taken daily. I have heard the doctors say that you should raise up your bed at night and sleep upright as a solution! GERD afflicts more than 14 million US adults. The most common symptoms are significant heartburn and acid regurgitation, which can be triggered by acidic foods or ordinary exercise. If left untreated it is directly linked to esophageal cancer.

Now, I want you to know that in my professional experience as a healer and naturopath dealing with this ailment on a daily basis worldwide, I can tell you this is not a disease, it is a symptom of chronic candida (yeast) infection that in most cases is systemic (in the blood stream). The fungus backs up in the small intestine and causes gas, bloating, reflux, etc. It literally ferments the food and makes it very hard for proper digestion...
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: Pennie June 17, 2006, 02:36:13 AM
You know Doug Kafumann is of the belief that all disease begins with fungus.(which seems to begin in the gut) THUS the name of his book The Fungus Link. I have believed it for awhile and with all the articles you seem to pull hb, I am believing it even more b/c now I see it coming from other sources as well.
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: Mrs. Dugger June 17, 2006, 06:37:21 AM
My baby sounds just like yours.  Except he did not have to go to the hospital.  His choking never got that bad.  He is just fine now, but for the first month he was super cranky, spit up constantly, choked, etc.  Our doctor said it is common for babies to do that and it will peak at 6 weeks, and either go away, or if it continues, then they would consider testing for acid reflux.  Anyway, all his symptoms, except for occasional spitting up, went completely away within one week of me cutting out all problem foods from my diet.  I am personally allergic to wheat (BTW, spelt is a form of wheat, so truly allergic individuals CANNOT eat spelt as a substitute for wheat).  I cut out all dairy, citrus, tomatoes, broccoli, cauliflower, chocolate, coffee, caffine, soy, peanuts, eggs, and seafood.  I ate a lot of green salads, beef, and brown rice.  It was SO AMAZING, the difference in him!  It was like night and day.  He turned into a happy baby. 

I had the flu once when he was about 6 or 7 weeks old, and I did NOT feel like nursing, I was SO SICK, so my hubby gave him a bottle of formula.  He broke out in a pimply rash and was super cranky and got REALLY congested from it.  A few days later, I ate some cheese, and sure enough, the same thing happened.  Anyway, long story short, he's sensitive to dairy.  So maybe you could try eliminating that.  But anything you eliminate, give it two weeks to get out of your (and his) system.

Now I can eat anything except dairy and he's fine.
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: MicheleL July 12, 2006, 05:32:39 AM
Our son turns 5 in November and has been through a series of testing (several years ago) at the hospital and we were told he has severe reflux.  He has also been through allergy testing and is allergic to milk and has eczema.  He drinks goat's milk and eats goat's cheese daily and does well with it.  However, he has been on medication for reflux now for 2 years and we would appreciate a natural remedy and worry about him being on medication for his entire life.  We'd so appreciate hearing about alternative options.  Thank you and blessings, Michele
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: healthybratt July 12, 2006, 06:16:18 AM
Our son turns 5 in November and has been through a series of testing (several years ago) at the hospital and we were told he has severe reflux.  He has also been through allergy testing and is allergic to milk and has eczema.  He drinks goat's milk and eats goat's cheese daily and does well with it.  However, he has been on medication for reflux now for 2 years and we would appreciate a natural remedy and worry about him being on medication for his entire life.  We'd so appreciate hearing about alternative options.  Thank you and blessings, Michele

In my opinion, you should treat him for candida and leaky gut syndrome.  He has many of the symptoms.  Read this thread Leaky Gut - The Cause of it All (http://welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,603.msg5890.html#msg5890) for all the information you'll need to treat these problems.
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: amom3boys September 13, 2006, 11:42:15 AM
My son's ped. wants to put him on Reglan for his reflux. Because of the scarey side effects,I'm not ready to do that. I have read that digestive enzymes help empty the stomach faster just like the Reglan would. Can anybody give any advise about this?
Also,are digestive enzymes the same as probiotics?
Thanks,
Rachel
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: healthybratt September 13, 2006, 11:53:21 AM
Also,are digestive enzymes the same as probiotics?
No, enzymes are virtually proteins.  Probiotics are bacteria found in fermented foods and naturally in healthy intestines.

If your baby has reflux, there's a good chance he has candida (http://welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,1400.0.html) or leaky gut (http://welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,603.msg5890.html#msg5890) as reflux is a symptom of these.

Here's an article with more info.  ACID REFLUX IS NOT A DISEASE (http://www.herbalhealer.com/newsletters/n0400.html)
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: ShabbyChic September 14, 2006, 04:13:07 PM
SO, so, so glad you posted this question, Rachel.  You are not alone.

My almost 6 mo. old son has had TERRIBLE spitting up since he was born.  He cried for the first 8 days of his life until he was diagnosed with GERD.  I was given Axid for him to take, and we gave it to him just before bed (when it was worst) for about 2 months before I stopped.  He still spits up like crazy, and I am simultaneously so frustrated by it and feel sorry for him at the same time.  He is still 100% breastfed, and I am convicted that the spitting up is because I craved chocolate so much when I was pregnant with him and since he has been born.  It relaxes me.  But eating it actually causes him strife which is what has been stressing me!  It makes so much sense! 

I don't mean to split the thread, but how do I detox (for my breastmilk)?  I've heard that detoxing is not recommended while breastfeeding.

Thanks, HB, for that link.  I ordered the tummy tune-up and the supermom.  And we've never had a microwave.
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: abbilynn September 14, 2006, 04:24:16 PM
Houston Neutraceuticals has enzymes.  I don't know what the dosage would be, but check out their site houstonni.com.  They have different ones and an explanation for what each one does.  They come in chewables so they are easy for kids to take.  There's also Enzymatica (don't know their site).  Definently check on the yeast thing though. 
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: seeker September 14, 2006, 04:28:56 PM
My 2nd and 3rd babies both had reflux. The 2nd was not put on the meds until he was 4 months old. I resisted the meds before that, but didn't know anything about reflux. I didn't realize that the reason he was crying all the time was because he was in such pain. Finally, at 4 months, he was not gaining weight properly, so we did the meds. I recognized my 3rd child's reflux symptoms right away. She was put on the meds at about 3 or 4 weeks of age.  I had to wean both of them off of the meds and did that at about 18 months or so. My 4th baby has some reflux symptoms, but I am determined to not put her on the meds if I can help it. I know that many times reflux is from an immature esophageal sphincter, so I am hoping she will outgrow the reflux. I have also wondered about using digestive enzymes (or any other more natural way to help with reflux symptoms). I have tried something called Colic Calm. I feel like my baby got SOME relief from it. I did not give her as much as the bottle said though and I haven't used it very much. However there is at least one other mom on this forum that did not have a good experience with Colic Calm and said she will never use it again. Every baby is different! I'm sorry that I don't have any advice to give on the enzymes. Just know that you are not alone. It's heart-breaking to have an uncomfortable baby that you can't help.
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: AgainstTheGrain September 14, 2006, 05:12:10 PM
I don't mean to split the thread, but how do I detox (for my breastmilk)?  I've heard that detoxing is not recommended while breastfeeding.

ShabbyChic - be careful with SuperMom while breastfeeding. I tried it a few weeks ago when my baby was only 5 weeks old (he's now 11 weeks) and I only did 1/4 of the dosage (1/2 tablet) a day and he still broke out in a rash on his face and abdomen. Your toxins leave your body by way of breastmilk, so they go from you to him :-\  Since he's older you may be ok - i have a friend who is fine taking it at full dosage with her 6mo daughter. You may want to start out slow to minimize any reaction.  Just some thoughts for ya! ;)
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: ShabbyChic September 15, 2006, 09:08:21 AM
Thanks, AgainstTheGrain!  I'll keep an eye out  :o
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: Honey Bee September 15, 2006, 09:15:28 AM
For those who have babies with reflux, here is my experience.  My second son was born premature and suffered reflux until he was 9 months old.

WE tummy slept him on an incline, I ate a very mild diet and breastfed him and we gave him prevacid which reduced his stomach acid.  This worked fairly well until my milk wasn't enough sustenance for him.

When we introduced rice cereal, HE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH STOMACH ACID to digest food.  So, we stopped using the prevacid and put a teaspoon of apple cider vinegar in a bottle of expressed milk to ADD ACID to his belly.  It worked great.  We did this twice a day for about two months.  By a year, my son did not have reflux.
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: healthybratt September 15, 2006, 09:58:48 AM
I would like to let you ladies know that I've discovered that antiacids can be detrimental if you're not careful.  I know you have to decide what's best for baby but if they take too much antiacids, you will run into the problem of not enough acids and sometimes this can be a permanent condition which will damage something called the "intrinsic factor" in the gut.  If damaged, you can suffer deficiencies of certain nutrients, specifically B12 as well as other digestive disorders.  I haven't researched this heavily but it's worth looking into.
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: Rita September 15, 2006, 10:22:11 AM
I use to work for a nutritionist who always suggested aloe vera juice for reflux.  The results were amazing in the adults who used this.  However, I don't know if it is okay for infants. 
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: ShabbyChic September 17, 2006, 04:13:42 PM
Okay this is going to sound stupid--- but to drink the aloe vera juice?  I've seen it in the big jugs that is the kind you drink and not the kind with litacaine, etc.  What would a dosage look like?  Is it something you can have too much of?
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: jbbabyslings September 17, 2006, 05:21:28 PM
Not sure if this is appropriate or not but my son had terrible reflux and is finally outgrowing it at 4 mo YIPPEE However we have an almost full box of Previcid granules packets. All packets are indivuadually sealed so no way for them to be tampered with. I hate to waste them since they were EXPENISVE. If anyone can use them I'd love to pass them on to them. I just would rather not throw them away and someone get use out of them if they need them. If you want them email me.

Marie
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: Rita September 19, 2006, 10:01:56 AM
It has been quite some time since I have worked for the nutritionist so I can't remember how much he told them to drink of the aloe vera juice.  The kind he sold was a concentrate and you mixed it with water.  I'm sure if you contacted a health food store they should be able to answer your questions about aloe vera juice dosages.
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: amom3boys October 02, 2006, 10:53:09 AM
 My son is 4 months old and after months of crying and screaming and puking and crying  some more we've finally started treating him for reflux.

Our ped. prescribed Zantac for the pain that the reflux was causing,but Zantac does nothing for the spitting up itself. He wants us to give him Reglan for the spitting up,but because of the horrible side effects,I refuse. (I want to get him off the Zantac too,but need to get the reflux under control first.)

Reglan is used to empty the stomach quicker in order to reduce spit up. I have found that probiotics work as well,and I feel much better about them.

My question is can he have probiotics before every meal? How much can he have?Would the dose be different if you're treating something specific than it would be for normal every day use?(The one I have is BabyLife by Solaray,and from reading I think it's very close to Tummy Tune-up.)
Also,can it be mixed with a little water/breast milk to make it easier to take?(it's a powder)
Any help anyone can give will be so appreciated!

 
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: Maria/NHM October 02, 2006, 11:00:23 AM
My three month old has has tummy troubles also :( I open up a tummytune up and sprinkle it in her mouth. If she's really crying it will choke her a little but it's not as bad as the my tummy hurts cry :) I give it to her several times a day. It takes at least two days to give her the whole pill. If your baby takes more I don't know of any danger.
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: 4myhoonie October 02, 2006, 05:10:05 PM
Okay this is going to sound stupid--- but to drink the aloe vera juice?  I've seen it in the big jugs that is the kind you drink and not the kind with litacaine, etc.  What would a dosage look like?  Is it something you can have too much of?

http://www.gnld.com/store/Product.aspx?NAV_CATEGORY_ID=3230&CATEGORY_ID=1137&PRODUCT_ID=10003&ATTR=faq

yes, you drink it.  i don't think it can hurt you, though if you took a lot it might give the runs!  above is a link for a quality brand, that is pretty expensive.  i was told it was much better quality than walmarts, though i think it has stuff in it like ginseng or something too.
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: carolinachic October 05, 2006, 04:55:21 AM
I read the thread for reflux mostly talking about babies, I was wondering about reflux in adults. I have a friend who has lost 25 pounds recently due to extreme reflux. She's been very sick and has been able to eat due to the reflux. The info I read on it being symptoms of yeast infection were interesting. Is there something I can recommend to her that would help her, obviously the medicines the doctors are perscribing are not helping. Thank you!
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: Laalex2 October 05, 2006, 05:11:34 AM
I had extremely horrible reflux after brain surgery over 2 years ago.  I tried all the acid reducing drugs and none of them worked.  I researched on the internet and found that a low carb diet helped so I went off all the drugs and tried the diet.  I felt much better in several weeks but what has really helped my whole gut is a candida diet with grapefruit seed extract to kill the yeast.  I am feeling better than I have in 17 years!  Any kind of drugs, bad diet, etc. completely cause imbalance in the gut which can lead to many illnesses.  I would love to email your friend and encourage her if she would like.  My email is laalex2@aol.com.  I suffered with acid reflux for almost 2 years.
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: carolinachic October 05, 2006, 05:58:24 AM
I had extremely horrible reflux after brain surgery over 2 years ago.  I tried all the acid reducing drugs and none of them worked.  I researched on the internet and found that a low carb diet helped so I went off all the drugs and tried the diet.  I felt much better in several weeks but what has really helped my whole gut is a candida diet with grapefruit seed extract to kill the yeast.  I am feeling better than I have in 17 years!  Any kind of drugs, bad diet, etc. completely cause imbalance in the gut which can lead to many illnesses.  I would love to email your friend and encourage her if she would like.  My email is laalex2@aol.com.  I suffered with acid reflux for almost 2 years.
I appreciate you help...my friend unfortanetly does not have internet, but I am interested in your formula of the Grapeseed Extract. How did you take it? And What can I tell her about it? Thank you again for your help, I will be seeing her tomorrow, Maybe I can pick something up for her to start using!
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: Kati*did October 05, 2006, 06:12:43 AM
Does your friend have a physical problem with her esophogus not closing all the way?  That is sometimes why there is such bad reflux.  My husband has this, and although he does just about all we can find to do for the situation, sometimes the esophogeal sphincter just doesn't close all the way.  He has found that it's very helpful to strengthen the diaphragm.  He learned a bunch of ways to do this from a woman who teaches voice lessons.
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: carolinachic October 05, 2006, 06:49:19 AM
I don't think so...this all just recently came about in the last two months.
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: rosiedoo October 05, 2006, 07:40:54 AM
My husband also has severe acid reflux and when he doesn't eat any processed flour and other grains, he has no acid.  I was making cookies the other day for Jewish New Year and he at 3 small cookies and immediately had acid issues.  He basically eats no whites...flour, rice, potatoes, sugar, pasta.  Hope this helps.  Sonce
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: Laalex2 October 05, 2006, 04:16:34 PM
It's called Grapefruit Seed Extract and any health food store carries it.  It's very strong but I put in 10 drops in water 3 times a day before meals and felt much better within several days.  Encourage her to also eat low carb....no sweets, fruits, breads, pastas.  Mostly vegetables, proteins, nuts, olive oil, low gluten grains (millet, buckwheat, and brown rice) for awhile and she will feel so much better.
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: butterfly84 October 05, 2006, 04:57:42 PM
My husband also has acid reflex,
and what has helped for him are:

papaya pills
drinking aloe Vera juice
bio-gest

he's currently been taking the bio-gest(recommended my our naturepath)
and thats seems to be helping Alot.
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: petrimama November 13, 2006, 10:41:47 AM
Please offer advice if you have it and if you don't, pray.  My baby is almost 7 weeks and he is having serious digestive trouble.  All of my babies had reflux, so I'm not new to excessive spitting up, but this is scary.  I first suspected pyloric stenosis because I had it as an infant, but I now doubt that's what it really is (I'm probably going to have an ultrasound just to be safe).  He is purely breastfed and he projectile vomits (always after much heaving) nearly an entire meal so frequently that I have taken to sleeping on layers of waterproof mats to save the sheets.  I keep him upright except for diaper changes, I burp him twice per feeding, I limit his feeding time to 5 minutes every hour to be sure his stomach is not too full, and my diet is so mild I don't know what else to cut out.  I already feel like it's not very healthy for me but I'm afraid to take supplements because they might affect him.  (Breakfast: 2 slices toast, Lunch: romaine lettuce and unseasoned grilled chicken with a tiny bit of dressing, snack: slice of toast, dinner:  same as lunch;  I drink only water with a tiny splash of cranberry just to keep things interesting).  I've been eating this way for 5 days and prior to that my diet also included raw carrots, apples and plain brown rice.)  Any ideas, anyone?  Praise the Lord that he is still hydrated, although his bowel movements are far smaller and fewer than they were.  I am getting desperate.  Not only am I concerned for his health, but I am having a very difficult time homeschooling and spending time with my other kids because I am so occupied with laundry, feedings, baths, showers, etc.  Thanks, ladies!        ~L
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: jammy November 13, 2006, 11:38:26 AM
I am praying for you today, for strength and endurance, for wisdom in finding what will help him, for doctors involved, and for your precious baby boy's health.

HUGS<
Jenn
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: KatieMac November 13, 2006, 11:43:00 AM
How long have you been off dairy? I know it can take up to two weeks for it to completely leave your system, and therefore baby's system.
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: healthybratt November 13, 2006, 11:43:18 AM
Have you tried some tummy tuneup? 
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: petrimama November 13, 2006, 12:10:50 PM
I've been off dairy 1 week, so I guess I should give it more time - but my husband just told me to eat a small amount of cheese to get some fat in my diet because it seems like I'm losing my milk.  Normally I have more than I know what to do with, so the only thing I can think of causing it is that my diet is not well rounded.  I sure have been craving fat - I feel like I could eat a stick of butter! :P
Tummy tune up is safe for newborns?  I don't have any but maybe I'll order some.
  Thanks everyone - keep it coming!    ~L
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: healthybratt November 13, 2006, 12:15:02 PM
Tummy tune up is safe for newborns?  I don't have any but maybe I'll order some.
Yes.  You can take it yourself and/or put in on your nipple for baby to suck  off while nursing.  It's been very helpful for many digestive upsets in mamas and babies.

As for the fat (hubby is probably right), you can get fat without dairy.  Olive oil, coconut oil, avocados, flax seeds, meat (especially grass fed).  Scroll down to #5 on this link for more fat ideas.
http://welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,2698.msg24644.html#msg24644
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: petrimama November 13, 2006, 12:32:55 PM
Thanks again, HB!  I just looked at the TTU at beeyoutiful and was wondering exactly how a newborn would use a pill.  You answered before I had to ask.
Also, about the other sources of fat:  I was trying to cut out all acids and allergens from my diet, which eliminated just about everything...hence my dilemma.  My oldest son is severely allergic to nuts, but since I LOVE them and they are a good fatty food, do you guys think it would be a better bet to add those back into my diet instead of dairy?     ~L
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: healthybratt November 13, 2006, 12:50:05 PM
Thanks again, HB!  I just looked at the TTU at beeyoutiful and was wondering exactly how a newborn would use a pill.  You answered before I had to ask.
Also, about the other sources of fat:  I was trying to cut out all acids and allergens from my diet, which eliminated just about everything...hence my dilemma.  My oldest son is severely allergic to nuts, but since I LOVE them and they are a good fatty food, do you guys think it would be a better bet to add those back into my diet instead of dairy?     ~L
I don't know on the nuts.  No experience here with nut allergies - what about olive oil or coconut oil?  Olive oil is good like melted butter on meats and breads.  Coconut oil is something you could melt in a cup of warm tea or mix in a smoothie with kefir or yogurt.  The kefir and yogurt in most cases won't bother a person with dairy allergies.
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: ShabbyChic January 04, 2007, 12:50:40 PM
Hey I just found this article, and as a mom of a kid with reflux it is something I wish I had stumbled upon much earlier.  Also, since we have been drinking raw milk my (breastfeeding) son's reflux is almost gone.  Coincidence?   ::) ;)

http://www.cryingoverspiltmilk.co.nz/Food/Breastfeeding.htm (http://www.cryingoverspiltmilk.co.nz/Food/Breastfeeding.htm)
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: ByHisGrace May 10, 2007, 09:23:17 AM
What do you give to a child with symptoms of reflux.  My husband has it and my oldest had it when he was younger.  Now,  my second boy,4, is holding his throat and says,  "Mama, I got sick."  He was crying when he went to bed last night. :-[
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: Pennie May 10, 2007, 09:32:10 AM
What exactly is reflux?  Is it indegestion? Or is it something else.  Raw ACV will help alakalize the body.  Other than that I haven't a clue.
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: babymakers May 10, 2007, 09:48:55 AM
Use food enzymes and that should correct it. It should be that simple.
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: herbalmom May 10, 2007, 09:59:35 AM
Reflux is when the stomach acid splashes into the esophagus. Sometimes treating for yeast/fungus will get rid of it. In the meantime DG licorice root- if your 4yo can't take pills maybe you can mix the powder with water & have him drink it- tea might work but I think the goo is part of the healing effect & the powder will stay in his stomach longer. Slippery elm is supposed to help also. Take it the same way as licorice root. BTW both of these will help coat the esophagus on the way down & help heal it also. HTH Blessings ~herbalmom
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: here-n-there-a-little June 03, 2007, 03:58:25 AM
HELP!  I am now seven months pregnant and NASTY reflux has set in!  Standard dietary practices to reduce it don't even phase it.  I have also taken TTU up until four to six weeks ago because of morning sickness so I know it isn't a complete lack of good bacteria.  However, I am starting to take TTU again to see if it will help.  I have resorted to TUMS and want to stop that ASAP but need relief!  I couldn't even sleep yesterday for a period of time because it was so bad!
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: herbalmom June 03, 2007, 04:10:49 AM
DG licorice root might help. It is good for ulcers & reflux. The DG part means it won't raise blood pressure. HTH Blessings ~herbalmom
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: Maria/NHM June 03, 2007, 05:12:12 AM
I was taking six Tummy Tune up every day towards the last of my pregnancy. They really helped with heartburn. If I missed a day I regretted it. Taking 2-3 before breakfast with a large glass of water really helped. I also found that toward the end constant snacking rather than full meals was the way to go. Hope you find some relief!

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: here-n-there-a-little June 03, 2007, 06:14:33 AM
Thanks!  You've both given me some hope!  This happend my last pregnancy but I don't remember it this bad this soon.  And at that point I had no idea what natural remedies were.
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: Fallmom November 23, 2007, 01:35:30 PM
I am hoping to find help for my dear hubby.  For the past week he is complaining about a sour or metal taste in his mouth, off and on sore throat, painful swallowing at times, and indigestion.  I thought maybe he had a stomch virus coming on but now I am worried.  I have browsed other threads on Gerd or ACid reflux but did not find how to get a concrete diagnosis or how to treat naturally.  Based on what I have read, I am suspecting he is suffering from this, but have no clue why it is happening.  We like to treat things naturally whenever possible, without Doctors and all kinds of tests.  Any help would be very much appreciated.
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: 4myhoonie November 23, 2007, 07:31:17 PM
i have recently helped my son with this.  he would have what he called "acid burps" after eating.  i gave him Zypan with the meal.  it's mostly for protein and fat digestion.  not sure what is bothering your hubby, but it is typically caused by too little stomach acid.  you can read about it in "What your dr. may not tell you about premenopause".  you can get Zypan from some chiropractors, or use another product that contains betain hydrochloride.  it is supposed to help increase the stomach acid.  what happens is it is taking too long to digest the food, because of too little acid, so they start to burp up the undigested food.  hope this helps, it's no fun.  this stuff helped my son immediately. 
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: faith November 24, 2007, 05:06:41 AM
My husband would wake up at night for a few years and take alca seltzer and cough for a long time after. My sister in law is a nurse , when he told her what happened to him she said it was acid reflux and told him when it happends or feels it coming on to take a spoonful of Tahiti (sesame butter)  So he did. That was a year ago and he has not had any problems since.  I tried it once this Thanksgiving because my stomach hurt and it helped me. It settles my stomach for some reason.
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: Kymdenise January 04, 2008, 04:52:05 AM
I did some searches, and am so bad at it.. please help me if you can. I had symptoms of a bladder infection start on new years day.. Very icky constant urge to go, kinda burned... and oh the pain in my back. So on the 2nd I saw my doctor, and she found blood in my urine. Being as I am 12 weeks pregnant, she didn't want to dilly dally (I guess bladder/kidney infections can be very bad for preggos) she started me on an antibiotic. I took one that evening, one the next morning, no problem. Then last night I took one before bed, and I woke up with what I think is reflux. It's a horrible nagging snag that travels up and down my throat. Sometimes I vomit, but I'm always very uncomfortable. Even at this very moment (about 10am) I just was sick and still feel like something is stuck in my throat.. Is it reflux? Is it because of the antibiotic? What can I do? I am so uncomfortable, and afraid to take another! But I have to... I don't want to fool with an infection in my kidneys. Any advice to make it stop?
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: Mom2four January 04, 2008, 07:03:33 AM
I'm not really the best one to answer, because I am struggling with some unexplained GI symptoms myself and not having much success in treating them.  I am not pregnant.  That said, I would say that it does sound like reflux, but I don't know if it is necessarily caused by the antibiotic, especially if you only took one.  Can I ask what antibiotic it is?  The reason I ask is that I recently thought I had a UTI as well (that is what started my issues) and I took the antibiotic and then was left with some GI stuff.  There are several antibiotics that can be used to treat a UTI, though many on this board would say that antibiotics do not necessarily cure a UTI -- and I am inclined to agree.

I would definitely let my doctor know of the symptoms, because that particular antibiotic may not agree with you.  I would also treat the UTI naturally as well with blueberries and cranberries.  It won't interfere with the medicine and will get you over it faster.  You can also get D-mannatose power which really helps with the infection and flushing it out of your system.  I got mine from my naturopath, but I think you could get it at a health food store.  Don't eat any sugar, which will feed the infection and drink tons of water!  And if you do take the antibiotic, be sure to take lots of probiotics so you don't start a yeast problem.

I hope you feel better soon.  UTIs are miserable and especially in early pregnancy!
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: Kymdenise January 04, 2008, 10:23:56 AM
Thanks for the advice.. I'll have to get my paws on some cran and blueberries. And get this, I called said Dr. today, and it turns out I DON'T HAVE ONE!! I was calling to see if I could switch antibiotics, and they answered "oh, we got your labs back and it turns out you only have trace protien in your urine... so you don't have to take anything.." Huh? I thought they said I had blood in there and they didn't want to mess with it blah blah blah. So all for nothing. So I don't know what the deal is, where the back pain came from, or if all the cranberry juice I drank before I went in cleared enough up. (I drank all the cran juice I had in the house..) Seriously. I'm going to lose my mind. >:(
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: ruhamah February 28, 2008, 02:04:51 AM
GERD...... I have a friend who has heart problems and has recently (in the last year) had her gallbladder removed now she is having difficulty swallowing and still has bad nights when she eats too many calories or fats.

Now she is watching what she is eating but now she is having sporadic difficulty with swallowing and cannot figure out a correlations with what she is eating and it happening.

She will be going in for a throat scope to rule out tumors.

Is there a natural way to treat these complications, I looked on this thread but found no much help.

R
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: grocerygetter February 28, 2008, 04:02:43 AM
We had excellent results using chiropractic care to treat acid refulx.
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: healthybratt February 28, 2008, 05:19:36 AM
GERD...... I have a friend who has heart problems and has recently (in the last year) had her gallbladder removed now she is having difficulty swallowing and still has bad nights when she eats too many calories or fats.

Now she is watching what she is eating but now she is having sporadic difficulty with swallowing and cannot figure out a correlations with what she is eating and it happening.

She will be going in for a throat scope to rule out tumors.

Is there a natural way to treat these complications, I looked on this thread but found no much help.

R
I don't know if this will solve her throat probs, but this thread may help with her reflux(gallbladder) issues.

http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,15683.0.html (http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,15683.0.html)

Is it possible that her problems swallowing are related to the gag reflex and the inability to digest her foods properly?  If so then the above link may help after all.

If she has this many health issues, then she might also consider the possibility that she has yeast and leaky gut.
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: alexsa March 06, 2008, 06:03:56 AM
Do  you mind if i ask who   in your family had the reflux and how old they were when they got the adjustment?  DId you see results right away?  How many times did they go?  Thanks a bunch
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: grocerygetter March 06, 2008, 09:36:13 AM
Do  you mind if i ask who   in your family had the reflux and how old they were when they got the adjustment?  DId you see results right away?  How many times did they go?  Thanks a bunch

I'm assuming you were referring to my post :) My son was three months the first time I took him. I noticed a big difference right away, not completely gone, but much improved. We still take him randomly for other "issues" also. It's hard for me to say how often he went just for reflux. Maybe 2/3 a week for 2/3 weeks and then just as needed. Like if he had a bad day where he was spitting up a lot and uncomfortable I would call and we would go in that evening. HTH!
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: lvg4him May 16, 2008, 05:45:30 AM
I am not sure if anyone here is on Zantac or not, but I have heard some bad things about them:

**Causing the body to be dependant on it
**Can cause pernicious anemia
**Can cause the brain to become “foggy”

I cannot however find any evidence of anything bad with Zantac. I want to know exactly what I am giving my son. Any help with findings?

Thanks, Paula
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: healthybratt May 16, 2008, 08:33:53 AM
I am not sure if anyone here is on Zantac or not, but I have heard some bad things about them:

**Causing the body to be dependant on it
**Can cause pernicious anemia
**Can cause the brain to become “foggy”

I cannot however find any evidence of anything bad with Zantac. I want to know exactly what I am giving my son. Any help with findings?

Thanks, Paula
Taking too many antacids overtime can cause damage to the lining of the stomach and cause the body to be unable to absorb B-vitamins - most notably B12.

http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,12568.msg115731.html#msg115731 (http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,12568.msg115731.html#msg115731)
http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,2698.msg24644.html#msg24644 (http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,2698.msg24644.html#msg24644)

I would suggest looking into treating the cause of the reflux rather than the symptoms or over time seemingly small problems could become much larger and more serious in nature.
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: JeffAngie October 10, 2008, 02:18:38 PM
Hello everyone I have a question my son is now 6 months  old and still throwing up after feeding sometimes a lot sometimes a little.  He also has a absorption problem where his intestines are not absorbing everything he is eating.  He is only about 3.5 lbs above his birth wt in 6 months.

I was thinking about doing the tummy tune ups to see if it helped.  Do you think it would be better for me to take them and if so how many, or would it be better to give it right to his if so how much.
Also I thought about the aloe vera juice what to do you think about this, if so how much?

I think the Dr. is going to refer him for the upper gi thing and all and I would like to ad void it.  I do supplement some but he is mostly breastfed.  I have not started him on baby food or cereal yet although I am thinking about it soon because he seems hungry most of the time.

Please advise. 
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: hi_itsgwen October 10, 2008, 02:54:01 PM
Are you eating a good diet that's high in healthy fats?  ARe you sure of your milk supply being good?  (There are some teas that can help with milk supply)

How do you know that he's not absorbing what he's eating?  Just curious as to how they determined that. 

I have read about a condition where the baby doesn't break down the fats, and needs enzymes as part of the diet.  I would definitely be concerned with the low weight gain, and look for a Dr. who is willing to look at all the factors and be aggressive at moving forward in a natural way.

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: JeffAngie October 10, 2008, 03:06:06 PM
I know about his absorption issue because the stool test showed it.  He had a workup of tests done. 

I am also slightly concerned about his low wt. gain but he is such a happy baby overall and I don't think it is a big issue.

My diet could probably be higher in fats I am just not sure what I would eat to help that.

Angie
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: hi_itsgwen October 10, 2008, 05:07:31 PM
I have recently read an article about a baby who was born with a special condition where she made no digestive enzymes, and had to be fed fermented foods, and enzymes daily.  That is an extreme case, but if it worked for them, then it may be an option.  I might call the company and speak to a rep with questions about using a tummy tune up type product with an infant.  (Dosing and such)

Is he not digesting the fats?  Or is it just a range of things? 

I found this article very helpful on babies, enzymes, and foods:
http://www.westonaprice.org/foodfeatures/nourish-baby.html

Also, my chiropractor adjusted my daughter at 4 months, and her spitting up went away almost completely.  She was awful at spitting up most of her meals.  Turns out, she had a twisted vertabrae that was pinching the nerves to her stomach/upper GI track.  That might be a good place to start for your little budy as well.  It's fairly common for babies to get a twisted vertabrae there, as they are 'turned' as they are born.

HTH!
~Gwen