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: Melatonin
: missourigirl February 13, 2009, 08:30:14 AM
I'm not sure if this is where I am supposed to post this and i did a search to try to find some answers but did not come up with any so I'm sorry if this is in the wrong place, now for my question, my grandma asked me to research melatonin to help her sleep, her Doctor put her on some meds and they are not good for her and she heard of melatonin to be a more natural alternative, does anyone know of any dangerous side affects or possible interactions with other medications it may have? any advice would be greatly appreciated  :) thanks in advance!
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: twitterpated4hubby February 13, 2009, 09:23:30 AM
Someone else will know more about the safety of mixing it with other meds she is on but i can tell you that it works very well for me and my family as far as sleeping goes. Its so nice because it helps you feel sleeping and fall asleep but you can wake up easily if you need to and don't have that drugged feeling. I have never heard of it being dangerous in any way but lets see if anyone else has before i go telling you its safe.

My grandmother takes it and she is on other meds for heart and blood pressure. Oh and i find that GNC brand doesn't work as well as the brand from my health food store which is made by NOW.
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: ridgerunner February 13, 2009, 10:36:16 AM
I take it and when I first started I was on heart medication (beta blockers) and some other things... ???  it didn't cause any problems.  It was actually my doctor that suggested it because I was having a hard time sleeping and I had told her that I didn't want to go on any more prescription medication.  I've since been able to get off most all the other prescription medication that I was on at the time, but I still take melatonin to help me sleep.  Works great!
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: AllinHisTime February 13, 2009, 07:42:10 PM
I just started my Grandma on this a couple days ago and noticed she slept much better than when on an anti-anxiety med (which she was weaned off of).  I feel so much better with her taking this.  She is also on a heart med, synthroid, nitro patch and a drug for Alzheimer's, although my family is starting to believe me about diet, so that will help us to help her. 

I plan on getting her tested for heavy metals and other tests to find out what she is deficient in.
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: missourigirl February 16, 2009, 08:24:09 AM
thanks so much for your responses! it gives me a little more peace of mind. i have researched it some and have not come up with any side effects so with what you shared i feel i have a good idea what to tell my grandma. thanks again!  :)
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: mommyjen December 16, 2009, 07:08:28 PM
Just got mine from Azure tonight and will be giving it a try. I actually took them (chewable) just minutes ago and already feel the effects.  I'm feeling really heavy, like my body is conking out on me.  Never had that will Valerian root before or anything else that I remember.  I'm taking 3 mg.  Oh and Shonda Parker say's it will only work if your melatonin levels are low.  Can anyone vouch for this?  Thanks!  She also says that it works best for the elderly as low melatonin levels are common in that age group.  Gotta go, I'm fading fast!  Next time, I'll take it closer to when I REALLY want to go to bed.  ;D  I'm supposed to take more if I get up and can't go back to sleep.  Will update! 

p.s. Hubs just mentioned that when he was picking up our stuff from the co-op drop a man saw the melatonin bottle and it reminded him that he forgot to order some.  He said it works great for him.  Okay, wow, I'm having trouble typing and talking so I better go to bed now!
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: skelliott2 December 16, 2009, 07:35:32 PM
My mom and my aunt both say it helps them a lot.  Sleeplessness runs in our family after reaching a certain age, so it's really nice to know a natural cure for that one!
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: petrimama December 17, 2009, 06:28:29 AM
  I think there is a thread where this was mentioned somewhere on here already, but I do have a small warning to share regarding melatonin supplements.  I believe that it is safe to say that anyone taking this supplement believes that their body is not naturally producing enough melatonin on its own - at least not at the desired time.  Now artificial supplementation is a great temporary fix to get caught up on sleep and back on track.  However, when doing this sort of thing long-term, there is very commonly a reverse reaction by the body. 
  To keep things simple, let's say that your body is currently only producing 50% of the necessary melatonin.  So, so decide to supplement.  Your body detects that it's levels have risen, so it begins to cut down on what it is producing - dropping down to 25%.  It is not usually noticeable while on the supplement because the additional amount more than makes up for the additional lack.  However, now you are dependent on the melatonin to fall asleep because if you stop taking it at this point, you would be worse off than before.  This is true for any hormone supplementation.  Personally, I would not use it for more than one month at a time, but I'm not sure if there is an actual official guideline out there.
  During this month, I would try to identify the true cause of my sleeplessness.  For instance, stress, physical or electronic (TV, computer, etc.) stimulation within an hour before bed, lack of routine, or disrupted sleep cycles are very common causes of insomnia.  (Looking into sleep cycles is a great place to start, since often people go to bed an hour after they feel tired and have to wait until their body cycles back to fall asleep.  Go to bed when you are tired, despite undone chores and you just may nod right off.)  Sometimes all it takes to get back on track is catching up on sleep so that we are better able to manage stress; often, a stressful week at work can indicate the need for melatonin pills.  I just don't think that they are a long-term solution.
  On a side note, most hormone supplements are either synthetic or animal derived.  Both options kind of weird me out, personally.
  Anyway, that's just my take on the whole thing.  I hope it helps someone.  ~L
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: AndysJess December 17, 2009, 08:05:50 AM
I'm glad I came across this thread.  I was just looking at melatonin as a possible way to help me sleep during my 3rd trimester.  Once I hit about 30 weeks, I completely stop sleeping.  I might sleep maybe an hour/night.

What you're saying, Petrimama, makes a lot of sense though.  If I was only taking it for a set amount of time, do you think it would be ok?  Also, I guess the main question is "is it safe during pregnancy, particularly the 3rd trimester?"  Once I have the baby, my body resets itself and I go right back to sleeping normally (well, except for waking with the baby of course). 

I'm 18 weeks pregnant with #5, so I have a ways to go.  I'm already feeling a little panicky though, thinking about the weeks of sleeplessness ahead.
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: mommyjen December 17, 2009, 03:50:54 PM
I'm glad I came across this thread.  I was just looking at melatonin as a possible way to help me sleep during my 3rd trimester.  Once I hit about 30 weeks, I completely stop sleeping.  I might sleep maybe an hour/night.

What you're saying, Petrimama, makes a lot of sense though.  If I was only taking it for a set amount of time, do you think it would be ok?  Also, I guess the main question is "is it safe during pregnancy, particularly the 3rd trimester?"  Once I have the baby, my body resets itself and I go right back to sleeping normally (well, except for waking with the baby of course).  

I'm 18 weeks pregnant with #5, so I have a ways to go.  I'm already feeling a little panicky though, thinking about the weeks of sleeplessness ahead.

Oh AndysJess, I can totally relate.  :(  Only for me it's in my first trimester and postpartum.  I think it's a hormonal thing.  From my online reading melatonin doesn't seem safe during pregnancy, but in Shonda's books she usually states that it's not for pregnancy if that's the case and she doesn't in Mommy Diagnostics.  Hmmm.  Here's a online source I like because it cited a 5 year human study and found it to be safe up to 75 mg!  A "very low" dose is considered between .3 to 5 mg so that's a lot! 30 mg and up can act as a contraceptive.

http://www.sleepydust.net/melatonin-too-much.html

My results from last night was that I fell asleep quickly and stayed asleep all night!  This is a total miracle for me! I wasn't so sure cause when my head hit the pillow my body seemed tired but my brain was still going but before I knew it, it was morning. Before I woke up to hubby's alarm clock at 5am I was having a vivid dream, but not disturbing at all.  I did wake up with a headache which may or may not be related.  I still have it at 5:40 pm and headaches are not common for me, but I honestly think it's cause I'm fighting the the cold my kids have had for the past few days.  I rarely get but occasionally feel like I'm fighting something for a day or two. I'll see if the headache continues. If they do it could be that I need a lower dose or that my body is making plenty and shouldn't be taking it.  When hubby's alarm went off I usually fall right back asleep but today I was so alert.  I felt refreshed but tried to go back to sleep out of habit anyways and there was NO way that was happening.  I got some house cleaning done and made hubby breakfast before his milking and we had some tea time together over breakfast just us. Not forced at all, I was being carried by energy from sleep! Wonderful!  

I'm gonna start with .5 mg tonight and go up each night if necessary.  I'd like to stay in the low dose range.  I'm still researching but feel fine about the low dose I'm taking for a couple months anyways.  
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: mommyjen December 18, 2009, 12:55:05 PM
Well I chickened out and took the 3 mg again last night.  Couldn't bear the thought of not sleeping well.  I feel asleep quickly again and even though the kids were up a few times last night, I was able to go back to sleep right away.  I feel great today!  House is spotless.  ;D  Well, okay, not spotless but looking great! I'm still paying attention to side effects and will report back if I find that I am having any.
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: snickerdoodle December 18, 2009, 01:17:22 PM
Tart cherries are one of the few natural dietary sources of melatonin.  You can get information on that, the dried fruit, fruit juice concentrate or even jelly here:
http://kingorchards.com/index.html (http://kingorchards.com/index.html)

Plus you get all the antioxidants, and anti-inflammatory properties from cherries. 
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: mommyjen December 20, 2009, 03:53:53 AM
The last two nights I fell asleep great but when woke up after the fourth time or so by baby (has cold and is eating less solids and nursing tons) couldn't go back to sleep, so I'm gonna try and get the time release melatonin.  Amazon reviews say that the time release solved this problem and gave a full nights rest.

petrimama, I really appreciate your post.  I do not know why I don't sleep. I've read Mercola's and others suggestions and nothing works for me or it does for awhile and then I'm back to insomnia.  It could be allergy related or candida.  Hopefully when I fix my existing health problems, I will start sleeping better.  :-\
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: hi_itsgwen December 20, 2009, 04:57:27 PM
mamajen,
This is just a shot in the dark, but when my Mom was going through menopause, she went through a time where she would wake up and couldn't get back to sleep.  A friend told her to put a tiny dab of progesterone behind her ear and she said that worked like a charm.

She also covered all light sources, and replaced her night light bulb with a red light, which doesn't register with your brain the same way.

Just some other ideas for you!
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: berthday December 23, 2009, 04:27:18 PM
I just bought the melatonin oral spray and the Lady at the Health food store said it was ok to give it to children. It does not have a doesage for kids but She saiad to do 1 spray. Does this sound right?
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: mommyjen May 02, 2010, 06:55:52 PM
Just want to update and say that I LOVE and I mean love melatonin.  :-*  For many years I had utterly exhausting bouts of insomnia. These are a thing of the past. I may have a night a month that I can't fall asleep as early as usual, but NOTHING like before. It is the BEST health decision I have ever made in that is has had the profoundest impact. I still do fine on 3 mg a night. Just wanted to share in case this testimony could help someone.