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Natural Health => Nutrition & Food => Desserts => : DawnsEarlyBirds August 01, 2006, 05:25:39 PM

: Chocolate a health food?
: DawnsEarlyBirds August 01, 2006, 05:25:39 PM
I learned while touring the Hershey Chocolate factory (as a kid, now you have to go to Chocolate World) that cocoa beans are fermented.  In my mind, having spent the past two years working on increasing our intake of fermented foods (thanks to Nourishing Traditions) that MUST mean chocolate is good for you.  I can imagine the sugars and other nasties added to it are not, but is the chocolate itself - or would that be the cocoa? - bad for you?  I have a friend who says chocolate makes her happy, so that's a good thing, right?  Any one know really what the scoop is?
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: healthybratt August 01, 2006, 05:31:32 PM
I learned while touring the Hershey Chocolate factory (as a kid, now you have to go to Chocolate World) that cocoa beans are fermented.  In my mind, having spent the past two years working on increasing our intake of fermented foods (thanks to Nourishing Traditions) that MUST mean chocolate is good for you.  I can imagine the sugars and other nasties added to it are not, but is the chocolate itself - or would that be the cocoa? - bad for you?  I have a friend who says chocolate makes her happy, so that's a good thing, right?  Any one know really what the scoop is?

Chocolate is reputed as being one of the highest natural sources of magnesium.  Magnesium deficiency has been associated with PMS which is why some believe you crave chocolate during that time of the month.  ;)

I read many articles which support this theory.  Here's one of them.

http://www.hub-uk.com/interesting/healthy-chocolate.htm

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: KatieMac August 01, 2006, 06:03:51 PM
From what I understand dark chocolate is very high in anti-oxidants as well.
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: Chickory Chick August 01, 2006, 06:19:07 PM
Here are some health facts according to Dagoba Chocolate....now they sell chocolate so you may want to take that into consideration.  :)

http://www.dagobachocolate.com/healthfacts.html
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: healthybratt February 17, 2007, 08:48:20 AM
I found a new chocolate chip that is healthier than your standard brands. 

Nestle Chocolatier now has Bittersweet and Dark chips that only contain:

cocoa, cocoa butter, milk fat, nonfat milk & sugar

since they add the milk and the fat separate, I'm guessing homogenization shouldn't be a huge problem here, so except for the sugar, we have a healthy version of chocolate.  all the other brands contain soy lecithin and hydrogenated fats in place of some of the cocoa butter.

they cost about $3 for 10 oz as compared to $1 for 16oz of the Walmart(Sam's) brand, but they are yummy and make a great substitute for a candybar when you get the hankering. 
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: ShabbyChic February 17, 2007, 09:09:19 AM
Chocolate and I are dear friends.  I eat some every day.  If I travel I take it with me.  Yes I took it to the hospital when I was delivering my babies.  I take it on plane trips and road trips and always keep some in the house. 

I had a good friend who stopped smoking about 4 years ago.  He said he was donating the money he was saving from his 2 pack a day habit to the church building fund.  He said no matter how poor you are, if you're a smoker you always have money for cigarettes.  He said since I've never touched a cigarette, "You probably wouldn't understand," but I assured him that I feel the same way about chocolate. 

I have struggled with depression in the past, and chocolate releases within me pleasure endorphins.  It is cheaper and healthier than prozac or paxil and only has good sexual side effects  ;)

I am an admitted, bonafied chocoholic, and I have no problem with that.  I come from a long line of chocoholics.  My grandmother used to say, "I never met a chocolate I didn't like."  I (and Kati*did) prefer it as dark as possible, like 85% cocoa or more.  And I'd rather eat unsweetened bakers chocolate than a Hershey's kiss.  That's my opinion.
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: ForeverGirl February 17, 2007, 09:31:59 AM
  I (and Kati*did) prefer it as dark as possible, like 85% cocoa or more.  And I'd rather eat unsweetened bakers chocolate than a Hershey's kiss.  That's my opinion.

 Count me in on that list! I've been known to nibble unsweetened chocolate. The funny thing is that it must truly be a physical  need, because I'll go for weeks without wanting chocolate at all, and then suddenly for 3 or 4 days, I crave it, and eat it like crazy - the darker the better. Unfortunately, if I eat a little every day, I get a migraine headache.

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: healthybratt February 17, 2007, 09:33:22 AM
I am an admitted, bonafied chocoholic, and I have no problem with that.  I come from a long line of chocoholics.  My grandmother used to say, "I never met a chocolate I didn't like."  I (and Kati*did) prefer it as dark as possible, like 85% cocoa or more.  And I'd rather eat unsweetened bakers chocolate than a Hershey's kiss.  That's my opinion.
I don't know what's in baker's chocolate, but I bet you'd love the dark chocolate chips I just mentioned.  ;)
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: milmuth February 17, 2007, 09:42:27 AM
I found a new chocolate chip that is healthier than your standard brands. 

Nestle Chocolatier now has Bittersweet and Dark chips that only contain:

cocoa, cocoa butter, milk fat, nonfat milk & sugar

since they add the milk and the fat separate, I'm guessing homogenization shouldn't be a huge problem here, so except for the sugar, we have a healthy version of chocolate.  all the other brands contain soy lecithin and hydrogenated fats in place of some of the cocoa butter.

they cost about $3 for 10 oz as compared to $1 for 16oz of the Walmart(Sam's) brand, but they are yummy and make a great substitute for a candybar when you get the hankering. 

I ditto that!  They ARE very good.  I made a large heart shaped PB cup for my dh with them for Valentine's and he loved it!  We don't like chocolate that tastes waxey, and many do, at least to us. Godiva has been the best we've found, but very pricey.  These were a very close second :)
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: ShabbyChic February 17, 2007, 09:47:12 AM
I am definitely looking for those Nestle chips at the supermarket.  I've been eating Ghiradelli or Gitard semi-sweet.  My mom also bought me a block of 85% cocoa for valentines day.  My hubby's been out of town so I went through it a little faster than I normally would, what with it being 40 degrees and uber blustery outside and having 2 little boys inside...  :o
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: healthybratt February 17, 2007, 09:48:53 AM
I am definitely looking for those Nestle chips at the supermarket.  I've been eating Ghiradelli or Gitard semi-sweet.  My mom also bought me a block of 85% cocoa for valentines day.  My hubby's been out of town so I went through it a little faster than I normally would, what with it being 40 degrees and uber blustery outside and having 2 little boys inside...  :o
I don' t remember for sure, but I thought Ghiradelli had soy lecithin in them and that's why I didn't get them.  I can't remember though.
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: Julia February 17, 2007, 10:27:04 AM
Soy lecithin aside, back when we used to go to Sam's Club, about two years ago, they sold a big five pound bag of Ghiradelli's chocolate chips for I think $6 or $7.    ;D ;D ;D
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: ShabbyChic February 17, 2007, 10:47:20 AM
Yes, I got my Ghiradelli in a 5 lb. bag from sam's club for around $6-$7.  Not a bad deal!!  It does have soy lecithin.  I cannot find many things that do not, though.   :P
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: princesstea February 17, 2007, 10:56:40 AM
Chocolate and I are dear friends...I am an admitted, bonafied chocoholic, and I have no problem with that.


My sentiments to the "t"! Now if only my mom was OK with it...there's the whole cavaties issue with me...and I'm actually not to keen on Dark chocolate, which I know is better for you...semi-sweet and milky are yummer.  ;D And I like my chocolate to have peanut butter, or almonds and toffe bits, or mint with it!
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: healthybratt February 17, 2007, 12:45:11 PM
Yes, I got my Ghiradelli in a 5 lb. bag from sam's club for around $6-$7.  Not a bad deal!!  It does have soy lecithin.  I cannot find many things that do not, though.   :P
I know, that's exactly why I was excited to find the Nestle's. 
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: healthybratt February 17, 2007, 12:47:58 PM
If you're a chocoholic, read "The Fat Fallacy".  This book describes many of the same concepts in "Eat Fat Lose Fat", but his book is written about his observations living in France.  He actually recommends you eat chocolate after lunch and supper EVERY day.   ;D  He says to get the expensive stuff and only eat a small square and to let it dissolve - don't chew.  The fats in the chocolate (among other ingredients) help to satiate hunger between meals. 

Good book~
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: healthyinOhio February 17, 2007, 01:21:01 PM
Unfortunately, if I eat a little every day, I get a migraine headache.



Yeah, caffeine withdrawl.  I buy organic dark chocolate from my health food store and have it timed to eat every other day.  If I do eat it everyday, I get a headache, too. 

Green and Blacks chocolate makes a heavenly ginger chocolate.  It is dark and spicy.  Yeah, you won't like it, HB!!  :D
Check out this thread:
http://www.worldwidechocolate.com/

Okay, maybe that was a bad idea?!  ;D
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: boysmama February 17, 2007, 01:28:46 PM
Just last night I got some of the dark chocolate chips HB mentioned.  :-* I am a dark chocolate fan too :D I used to eat bittersweet everyday, but as I have gotten healthier I only crave it periodically, especially during hormone shifts ::) Anyone like those Dark chocolate Dove Promises?
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: 4my3rascals February 17, 2007, 02:49:06 PM
Anyone like those Dark chocolate Dove Promises?
Oh, yeah...just discovered those little goodies a few weeks ago in the checkout lane.  Just one more thing to resist while paying for my healthy groceries.
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: Maria/NHM February 17, 2007, 02:49:20 PM
In my opinion this is some of the best chocolate I've ever tasted. I actually worked here in highschool. I could eat all I wanted while working :o ::) Unfortunately they are really pricey so I don't eat it now that I'd have to buy it.
http://www.boehmscandies.com/catalog/

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: Julia February 17, 2007, 02:58:31 PM
Sometimes I find that coffee satisfies my chocolate cravings. Of course they taste good together, too.  :-*
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: healthyinOhio February 17, 2007, 03:54:52 PM
OOOhhh, I almost forgot.  I also love Dagoba's organic lavender chocolate.  Mmmmm....gotta go find some, now!
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: BJ_BOBBI_JO February 17, 2007, 04:29:31 PM
OOOhhh, I almost forgot.  I also love Dagoba's organic lavender chocolate.  Mmmmm....gotta go find some, now!

Did you say chocolate lavender? As in like the purple lavender plant?     :o

I love lavender and chocolate.  If lavender was to be put in chocolate somehow I think I would have  death by chocolate. Ill be sure to tell hubby thats what I want on the tombstone "DEATH BY CHOCOLATE"
muahahahaha

 :P ;D :D ;)
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: healthybratt February 17, 2007, 04:47:59 PM
OOOhhh, I almost forgot.  I also love Dagoba's organic lavender chocolate.  Mmmmm....gotta go find some, now!

That sounds so good!
Amazon has it. Think I could use up a case :D

http://www.amazon.com/Candy-Lavender-Chocolate-Content-Organic/dp/B00016XLWC/sr=8-2/qid=1171765935/ref=sr_1_2/103-0288818-5521409?ie=UTF8&s=gourmet-food
http://www.worldwidechocolate.com/shop_dagoba.html (http://www.worldwidechocolate.com/shop_dagoba.html)
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: healthyinOhio February 17, 2007, 04:53:11 PM
OOOhhh, I almost forgot.  I also love Dagoba's organic lavender chocolate.  Mmmmm....gotta go find some, now!

That sounds so good!
Amazon has it. Think I could use up a case :D

http://www.amazon.com/Candy-Lavender-Chocolate-Content-Organic/dp/B00016XLWC/sr=8-2/qid=1171765935/ref=sr_1_2/103-0288818-5521409?ie=UTF8&s=gourmet-food
http://www.worldwidechocolate.com/shop_dagoba.html (http://www.worldwidechocolate.com/shop_dagoba.html)

Gotcha beat, HB!!
http://www.welltellme.com/discuss/index.php/topic,1641.msg57197.html#msg57197
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: Julia February 17, 2007, 05:05:12 PM
I remembered another way to taste chocolate without eating all the sugar and bad fats. I mix up some peanut butter and honey, then add some cocoa powder. Of course the kids love it, too, and it adds antioxidants to their peanut butter sandwiches! Sometimes I make a big bowl of it and add wheat germ, raisins, maybe a FEW chocolate chips, etc, and then we make what we call "super duper mucho yummy peanut butter sandwiches" or something along those lines.

Also hot chocolate made from real cocoa is nice and chocolatey. I've also added cocoa powder to tea - like tasteless tea like alfalfa or something, and if you sweeten it with honey it's pretty good.
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: Kati*did February 18, 2007, 05:26:37 AM
Chocolate and I are dear friends.  I eat some every day.  ... I (and Kati*did) prefer it as dark as possible, like 85% cocoa or more.  And I'd rather eat unsweetened bakers chocolate than a Hershey's kiss.  That's my opinion.

My absolute favorite bar that I've settled on is 85% from Lindt.  I know they aren't organic, but I haven't found an organic bar with that high of a percetage of cocoa.  Also, it only has 5 grams of sugar per 4 squares of the bar, so I only eat 1 or 2 squares a day, and it doesn't do a thing to my blood sugars!  Oh...and this Lindt bar doesn't use soy lecithin.

He actually recommends you eat chocolate after lunch and supper EVERY day.   Grin  He says to get the expensive stuff and only eat a small square and to let it dissolve - don't chew.  The fats in the chocolate (among other ingredients) help to satiate hunger between meals.

Yes!  I knew I was onto something.   ;D  Although I can take it or leave it -- I don't actually crave it -- I love to finish every lunch with 1 (sometimes 2) squares of chocolate.  I never crave desserts or sweets when I do this, either. 

Also, Shabby Chic...I wanted to tell you I love your pic -- so fun to see you!
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: SC February 18, 2007, 06:34:57 AM
There is a line of thinking that it is very unhealthy to get between a woman and her chocolate.  :o ;) :D
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: healthybratt February 18, 2007, 06:40:39 AM
There is a line of thinking that it is very unhealthy to get between a woman and her chocolate.  :o ;) :D
Yes.  Yes.  Hubby discovered this some time ago.
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: Melie February 18, 2007, 08:23:51 AM
Unfortunately, if I eat a little every day, I get a migraine headache.




Green and Blacks chocolate makes a heavenly ginger chocolate.  It is dark and spicy.  Yeah, you won't like it, HB!!  :D
Check out this thread:
http://www.worldwidechocolate.com/

Okay, maybe that was a bad idea?!  ;D

Chocolove makes a wonderful dark chocolate bar with chrystalized ginger chuncks in it.  Very addictive.  I have to break off what I want and put the rest in the back of the car otherwise I'd eat the whole thing on my drive home.  They are also available on the worldwidechocolate website.
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: healthyinOhio February 18, 2007, 08:24:44 AM
They are also available on the worldwidechocolate website.

See, I told you that website was a bad idea!  :D
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: oneblessedwoman February 18, 2007, 11:27:22 AM
There is a line of thinking that it is very unhealthy to get between a woman and her chocolate.  :o ;) :D
Yes.  Yes.  Hubby discovered this some time ago.

LOL!  Definitely a proven fact.
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: Nickole February 21, 2007, 11:19:05 AM
How do you guys stand dark chocolate  :P?  Seriously, did you always really prefer the taste, or just get used to it b/c it's healthier?  I've always hated it, but then we had given to us for Christmas a huge gourmet bag of truffles, and when there were only the dark chocolate ones left, well, better than nothing, so then it seemed to not be so bad.  I thought, hmm, maybe I could get used to this.

Now, is it healthier just because there isn't as much sugar in it?  Or is there something else too that makes it better ?  There are antioxidants in semi-sweet too, right?  But then you get the added sugar with it. 

I saw those Nestle chips HB - no soy!  Buuuut I got semi-sweet, because those Nestle ones only came in Dark and Bittersweet (beige bag I think, everyone).  I wonder why?  Had to go with the soy.  But now I'm wondering if I should get used to the dark.   :-[ ???


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: Melie February 21, 2007, 11:26:51 AM
How do you guys stand dark chocolate  :P?  Seriously, did you always really prefer the taste, or just get used to it b/c it's healthier?  I've always hated it, but then we had given to us for Christmas a huge gourmet bag of truffles, and when there were only the dark chocolate ones left, well, better than nothing, so then it seemed to not be so bad.  I thought, hmm, maybe I could get used to this.

Now, is it healthier just because there isn't as much sugar in it?  Or is there something else too that makes it better ?  There are antioxidants in semi-sweet too, right?  But then you get the added sugar with it. 

I saw those Nestle chips HB - no soy!  Buuuut I got semi-sweet, because those Nestle ones only came in Dark and Bittersweet (beige bag I think, everyone).  I wonder why?  Had to go with the soy.  But now I'm wondering if I should get used to the dark.   :-[ ???




I used to hate dark chocolate when I was a kid but then my taste buds grew up  ;D

I think you do get used to it and then milk chocolate begins to taste like plastic.  In high school I had a twix every day.  I still have chocolate every day but always dark and never a candy bar type.  Of course, I ONLY eat it for the health benefits... ;)
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: SarahK February 21, 2007, 11:37:54 AM
How do you guys stand dark chocolate  :P?  Seriously, did you always really prefer the taste, or just get used to it b/c it's healthier?  I've always hated it,...

It's a matter of sophistication. Those who attain that level do appreciate the dark chocolate and those who haven't....

Anyway, I like the flavor.  I like dark beers, too.  I might 'take' something that was good for me if it tasted nasty - but I don't choose it.  That's why the dark chocolate is back in our room and the Jungle Juice is left in the kitchen getting dusty.
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: Nickole February 21, 2007, 11:41:35 AM
How do you guys stand dark chocolate  :P?  Seriously, did you always really prefer the taste, or just get used to it b/c it's healthier?  I've always hated it,...

It's a matter of sophistication. Those who attain that level do appreciate the dark chocolate and those who haven't....

Anyway, I like the flavor.  I like dark beers, too.  I might 'take' something that was good for me if it tasted nasty - but I don't choose it.  That's why the dark chocolate is back in our room and the Jungle Juice is left in the kitchen getting dusty.

So you're a chocolate snob?  ;D

I just ate some semi-sweet chocolate chips and I feel so  :P :P :P :P.

 
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: freshisbest February 21, 2007, 11:45:50 AM
When I read somewhere that dark chocolate was GOOD for me I started acquiring a taste but quick!! I was happy to give up milk chocolate in favor of the dark if it meant I could eat it guilt free!! Thats not to say I eat it MORE...just that I reach for the dark if and when I do. And I use the dark chips in my cookies. We made the peanut butter haystacks with them too...didn't stop the kids from chowing down.
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: SC February 21, 2007, 11:48:46 AM
The darkest, unsweetened chocolate I can find. Black Cherry Juice concentrate 1:1 with water in one of my nicest glasses.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :)
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: Kati*did February 21, 2007, 12:02:21 PM
How do you guys stand dark chocolate  :P?  Seriously, did you always really prefer the taste, or just get used to it b/c it's healthier?  I've always hated it,...

It's a matter of sophistication. Those who attain that level do appreciate the dark chocolate and those who haven't....

My dad's family was very German/European, and their deserts are generally more fat and rich, and less sweet.  So when we ate dessert, it was usually fat and rich.  I think that's why I love the richness of dark chocolate that isn't very sweet.  And if there's some unsweetended whipped cream to put on top of it...yummmmmmmmmmm.  We also ate chocolate with fruit -- European, again (like SC's dessert). 

That's why the dark chocolate is back in our room and the Jungle Juice is left in the kitchen getting dusty.

ROTFL... ;D
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: Melie February 21, 2007, 12:58:41 PM
How do you guys stand dark chocolate  :P?  Seriously, did you always really prefer the taste, or just get used to it b/c it's healthier?  I've always hated it,...

It's a matter of sophistication. Those who attain that level do appreciate the dark chocolate and those who haven't....

Anyway, I like the flavor.  I like dark beers, too.  I might 'take' something that was good for me if it tasted nasty - but I don't choose it.  That's why the dark chocolate is back in our room and the Jungle Juice is left in the kitchen getting dusty.

So you're a chocolate snob?  ;D

I just ate some semi-sweet chocolate chips and I feel so  :P :P :P :P.

 

Semi-sweet - that's your problem.  Try bittersweet!  Trader Joes carries these bittersweet pound plus bricks.  My husband and I can go through a pound plus pretty quickly.
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: Nickole February 21, 2007, 04:48:53 PM
How do you guys stand dark chocolate  :P?  Seriously, did you always really prefer the taste, or just get used to it b/c it's healthier?  I've always hated it,...

It's a matter of sophistication. Those who attain that level do appreciate the dark chocolate and those who haven't....

Anyway, I like the flavor.  I like dark beers, too.  I might 'take' something that was good for me if it tasted nasty - but I don't choose it.  That's why the dark chocolate is back in our room and the Jungle Juice is left in the kitchen getting dusty.

So you're a chocolate snob?  ;D

I just ate some semi-sweet chocolate chips and I feel so  :P :P :P :P.

 

Semi-sweet - that's your problem.  Try bittersweet!  Trader Joes carries these bittersweet pound plus bricks.  My husband and I can go through a pound plus pretty quickly.

Ok, Nestle had the bittersweet so at least until I can make it to Trader Joes I can try that.

To top it off I had Taco Bell for dinner.   :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P  Don't need any lectures - I paid for it! :-X An hour in bed and catnip/peppermint tea in my hands.
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: healthyinOhio February 21, 2007, 04:51:43 PM


To top it off I had Taco Bell for dinner.   

YUP!  That's why my hubby calls it Taco H*LL!  ;D
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: Nickole February 21, 2007, 04:53:59 PM


To top it off I had Taco Bell for dinner.   

YUP!  That's why my hubby calls it Taco H*LL!  ;D

I knew I should have put "healthyinOhio" in parentheses after the not needing a lecture part!  ;D
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: Melie February 21, 2007, 05:03:37 PM
What's that about Taco Bell using a lower grade of meat than is required for dog food?  No lectures here, sounds like your body is already lecturing you :D
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: Nickole February 21, 2007, 05:05:07 PM
What's that about Taco Bell using a lower grade of meat than is required for dog food?  No lectures here, sounds like your body is already lecturing you :D

You're making me feel bad again!  GROAN!!!   :P :P :P
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: healthybratt February 22, 2007, 06:36:56 AM
How do you guys stand dark chocolate  :P?  Seriously, did you always really prefer the taste, or just get used to it b/c it's healthier?  I've always hated it, but then we had given to us for Christmas a huge gourmet bag of truffles, and when there were only the dark chocolate ones left, well, better than nothing, so then it seemed to not be so bad.  I thought, hmm, maybe I could get used to this.

Now, is it healthier just because there isn't as much sugar in it?  Or is there something else too that makes it better ?  There are antioxidants in semi-sweet too, right?  But then you get the added sugar with it. 

I saw those Nestle chips HB - no soy!  Buuuut I got semi-sweet, because those Nestle ones only came in Dark and Bittersweet (beige bag I think, everyone).  I wonder why?  Had to go with the soy.  But now I'm wondering if I should get used to the dark.   :-[ ???




I used to hate dark chocolate when I was a kid but then my taste buds grew up  ;D

I think you do get used to it and then milk chocolate begins to taste like plastic.  In high school I had a twix every day.  I still have chocolate every day but always dark and never a candy bar type.  Of course, I ONLY eat it for the health benefits... ;)
I liked milk chocolate up until a few months ago.   It's a sugar thing.  You have high or low tolerance for sweets.  I know mine is much lower since treating for candida.
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: ShabbyChic February 22, 2007, 07:43:56 AM
You know how some people crave sweet and some crave salty?  I like bitter.  I like lemons, darker beers, and darker unsweetened chocolate.  I also love that feeling you get in your jaw when you eat something tart; when I'm pregnant I crave that. 
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: Nickole February 22, 2007, 07:46:48 AM
As I have gotten older, I have craved bitter more and sweet less  :-\.  I wonder if there's a hormonal thing going on. 
 
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: SC February 22, 2007, 07:56:43 AM
Bitter, dark, rich . . . YUM!
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: ShabbyChic February 22, 2007, 08:03:03 AM
I have a feeling when we all get together for the first WTM gathering there's going to be a lot of dark chocolate, home made ales and d'uva for comparing, kefir swapping, and that famous thunder from down under chili.   :D
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: Kati*did February 22, 2007, 08:35:31 AM
You know how some people crave sweet and some crave salty?  I like bitter.  I like lemons, darker beers, and darker unsweetened chocolate.  I also love that feeling you get in your jaw when you eat something tart; when I'm pregnant I crave that. 

Yep...I like bitter, tart, and tangy.  The right amount of sweetness added to any of those is really good. 
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: ShabbyChic February 22, 2007, 08:59:18 AM
Yep.  I always calll first dibs on yellow or green candy!
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: ShabbyChic February 22, 2007, 09:09:09 AM
Hey check this out.  You may have to hit translate into English.

They have one called Noir Infiniti-- 99%!!!
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: DawnsEarlyBirds February 27, 2007, 10:22:50 AM
Chocolate is not always the answer.  When I was pregnant with our second child I asked my husband to bring me home some kiwis.  He saw the price of them, and brought me a box of chocolate covered cherries instead, thinking (and herein lies his mistake!) cheaper, and how can you go wrong bringing a pregnant women chocolate. 

The advice he always gives to men with pregnant wives is, don't think, just bring her what she asked for!
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: heatheronthehill February 27, 2007, 12:14:35 PM
Chocolate is not always the answer.  When I was pregnant with our second child I asked my husband to bring me home some kiwis.  He saw the price of them, and brought me a box of chocolate covered cherries instead, thinking (and herein lies his mistake!) cheaper, and how can you go wrong bringing a pregnant women chocolate. 

The advice he always gives to men with pregnant wives is, don't think, just bring her what she asked for!

HA!  I'm pregnant for the first time right now, and I'm amazed that I have no desire at all for chocolate anymore!  I just plain don't want it!  Sad because my husband got me some really nice dark chocolates for Valentine's day.  :(  He's the one eating them now! 
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: Kati*did March 31, 2007, 04:15:55 PM
Ok...for all of us who consider chocolate to be a necessity  ;) ...this health guy, Mike Adams, reviewed some really great healthy chocolate options.  This is the rich, dark stuff.  All of the reviewed products (five of them, I think) are sweetened with agave nectar, or some other natural thing!  Anyway, they look GREAT, so I thought I'd post this.  The review is here, and the links to each product are in his review:

http://www.newstarget.com/021756.html
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: daisey April 10, 2007, 07:53:36 AM
I ordered Coca Nibs from Azure Standard Food Club.  They are supposed to be a really good source of Magnesium.   I was hoping I could just eat them by the handful   :D   but~~~~they really aren't that tastie.   :(    I did put them in Chocolate Chip cookie recipe (instead of the chocolate chips  ;D ) and I really like them.  Gave the cookies a different taste and a little crunch.  I love chocolate and am kind of disappointed I can't eat these just plain.   Anybody else tried them?
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: healthyinOhio April 10, 2007, 08:02:44 AM
Ok...for all of us who consider chocolate to be a necessity  ;) ...this health guy, Mike Adams, reviewed some really great healthy chocolate options.  This is the rich, dark stuff.  All of the reviewed products (five of them, I think) are sweetened with agave nectar, or some other natural thing!  Anyway, they look GREAT, so I thought I'd post this.  The review is here, and the links to each product are in his review:

http://www.newstarget.com/021756.html

Katie,

Forgot to mention that I went to that Raw site to find the chocolate sweetened with agave necter and I couldn't see where to buy it?  I guess they said they have too much business, right now?  Did you find that?
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: healthyinOhio April 10, 2007, 08:04:38 AM
I ordered Coca Nibs from Azure Standard Food Club. 

Acutally, I just got a free pack of Garden of Life's Rainforest Cacao pieces with brazil nuts and coffee, today, in the mail.  Sounds similar, but I am hesitant to eat it because of the caffeine in it.  Mine is sweetened with some rain forest can sugar....ooohhhh.....aaahhhhh!  :D  Ya think it would make it taste better?
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: Kati*did April 10, 2007, 08:10:26 AM
I ordered Coca Nibs from Azure Standard Food Club.  They are supposed to be a really good source of Magnesium.   I was hoping I could just eat them by the handful   :D   but~~~~they really aren't that tastie.   :(    I did put them in Chocolate Chip cookie recipe (instead of the chocolate chips  ;D ) and I really like them.  Gave the cookies a different taste and a little crunch.  I love chocolate and am kind of disappointed I can't eat these just plain.   Anybody else tried them?

I love chocolate nibs...but I've never eaten them plain.  I've been keeping an eye on them at our HFS because I want to buy them, but don't have money for that luxury just yet!   I like them in stuff.  Especially in chocolate (or on top of something chocolate).  The Endangered Species Bat bar has cocoa nibs in it -- I really like that one.  I've heard of putting them in salad or on top of ice cream or in a smoothie.  I looked to find some other ideas and found this site:

http://www.adventuresinrawfood.com/what-to-do-with-raw-cacao-nibs-or-cocoa-nibs-aka-chocolate-nibs

Here's a muffin recipe that looks really good -- it includes kefir and cocao nibs!  What more could you want?   ;D ;D

http://chocolateandzucchini.com/archives/2005/03/muffins_a_la_framboise_eclats_de_feve_de_cacao_imbb13.php

Let me know how you use them, and what you like!
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: Kati*did April 10, 2007, 08:17:06 AM
Ok...for all of us who consider chocolate to be a necessity  ;) ...this health guy, Mike Adams, reviewed some really great healthy chocolate options.  This is the rich, dark stuff.  All of the reviewed products (five of them, I think) are sweetened with agave nectar, or some other natural thing!  Anyway, they look GREAT, so I thought I'd post this.  The review is here, and the links to each product are in his review:

http://www.newstarget.com/021756.html


Katie,

Forgot to mention that I went to that Raw site to find the chocolate sweetened with agave necter and I couldn't see where to buy it?  I guess they said they have too much business, right now?  Did you find that?

I just assumed it must be somewhere in stores.  But I did notice that I couldn't buy it online, which is what I wanted to do.  One of the bars (or was it the energy-type bars?) was available, but you had to buy a case. Ummm...right.  I could probably convince me, but not dh.   ;)  I'm going to search online more and see if they're selling them anywhere else.
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: floydian April 10, 2007, 08:44:30 AM
How did I miss this thread?  I can't believe I missed a chocolate thread!!

I haven't been out and about for awhile, but they now have dark chocolate M&M's.  And dark chocolate Reeces.  I'm sure yall all already knew this, but I was excited!!  I can't afford the really good stuff right now.  I'll go back to eating healthy again after the chocolate is gone from Easter.

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: KatieMac April 10, 2007, 09:52:42 AM
I just found out that my beloved Lindor Truffles come in 60% dark now and they are swoon worthy!
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: dara April 10, 2007, 11:34:15 AM
I just assumed it must be somewhere in stores.  But I did notice that I couldn't buy it online, which is what I wanted to do.  One of the bars (or was it the energy-type bars?) was available, but you had to buy a case. Ummm...right.  I could probably convince me, but not dh.     I'm going to search online more and see if they're selling them anywhere else.

Let us know if you find it!
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: daisey April 10, 2007, 04:00:17 PM
Thanks for the info on the cocoa nibs.   I will try sweeten somehow.  They are really horrid alone. ::)   :o   
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: healthybratt April 11, 2007, 05:07:48 AM
I love chocolate nibs...but I've never eaten them plain.
I'll bite.  What's a nib?  ;D
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: Kati*did April 11, 2007, 05:19:17 AM
I love chocolate nibs...but I've never eaten them plain.
I'll bite.  What's a nib?  ;D

It's the actual cocoa bean without the shell. 
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: lotsaboys April 11, 2007, 06:01:27 AM
I ordered Coca Nibs from Azure Standard Food Club. 

Acutally, I just got a free pack of Garden of Life's Rainforest Cacao pieces with brazil nuts and coffee, today, in the mail.  Sounds similar, but I am hesitant to eat it because of the caffeine in it.  Mine is sweetened with some rain forest can sugar....ooohhhh.....aaahhhhh!  :D  Ya think it would make it taste better?

I got one of those, too except mine has macadamia nuts and no coffee. Being a dark (the darker, the better) choc fan, I think its great esp. because its a little too strong for anyone else in our house and I get it all to myself. :)

Yeah, I'm sure the rain forest cane sugar makes it taste better. ;) ;D
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: ShabbyChic April 11, 2007, 06:28:38 AM
HealthyInOhio, you have to tell me how to get FREE CHOCOLATE!!!  The only thing better than chocolate is free chocolate.  And more chocolate. 

And lindt chocolate is my favorite, too.  So smoothe.  I just made some dark chocolate chip and craisin cookies.  I used 1/3 of the recommended sugar and they're still too sweet, though.  Next time I'm going sugar free and just let the chips sweeten the cookie.
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: healthyinOhio April 11, 2007, 06:42:34 AM
HealthyInOhio, you have to tell me how to get FREE CHOCOLATE!!!  The only thing better than chocolate is free chocolate.  And more chocolate. 


Well, it sort of wasn't free.  When you buy something from wholefoodtoday.com (I buy my primal defense there) then everytime you order they send you a free sample.  So, you can order something from them and then get something free.  HTH
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: ShabbyChic April 11, 2007, 06:54:28 AM
I knew it was too good to be true...  :D
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: healthybratt April 11, 2007, 07:02:14 AM
I love chocolate nibs...but I've never eaten them plain.
I'll bite.  What's a nib?  ;D

It's the actual cocoa bean without the shell. 
Okay, so what are they good for?  I was under the impression that cocoa powder was minus the cocoa butter, but the bean would still contain the butter needed to make real chocolate.  So does this mean you could grind them up, add sweetner and make your own dark chocolate?
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: Kati*did April 11, 2007, 07:07:54 AM
I love chocolate nibs...but I've never eaten them plain.
I'll bite.  What's a nib?  ;D

It's the actual cocoa bean without the shell. 
Okay, so what are they good for?  I was under the impression that cocoa powder was minus the cocoa butter, but the bean would still contain the butter needed to make real chocolate.  So does this mean you could grind them up, add sweetner and make your own dark chocolate?

Yeah...I think so.  But I wouldn't use nibs for that because I can buy chocolate with very little "added" (Lindt 85% is my favorite) for cheaper than I could make it.  And the nibs are far from cheap!!

ShabbyChic -- let me know if you make the cookies without sugar.  They sound awesome and I'd love to try them.  Do you just use a regular choc. chip cookie recipe?  Will they be weird (texturally) without the sugar? 
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: daisey April 11, 2007, 07:08:30 AM
I love chocolate nibs...but I've never eaten them plain.
I'll bite.  What's a nib?  ;D

It's the actual cocoa bean without the shell. 
Okay, so what are they good for?  I was under the impression that cocoa powder was minus the cocoa butter, but the bean would still contain the butter needed to make real chocolate.  So does this mean you could grind them up, add sweetner and make your own dark chocolate?

The only thing I have done with them so far is put them in cookies in place of chocolate chips.   They are REALLY good that way.   Some sites say you can eat them plain but when my chocolate loving daughter and I tried it we both almost gagged.    :'(   ::)   We love dark chocolate but these were~~~~I don't have a word!   Maybe it is an acquired taste thing.   ;)     I will keep researching and let you know if I find a good recipe.   
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: healthybratt April 11, 2007, 07:16:22 AM

It's the actual cocoa bean without the shell. 
Okay, so what are they good for?  I was under the impression that cocoa powder was minus the cocoa butter, but the bean would still contain the butter needed to make real chocolate.  So does this mean you could grind them up, add sweetner and make your own dark chocolate?
Yeah...I think so.  But I wouldn't use nibs for that because I can buy chocolate with very little "added" (Lindt 85% is my favorite) for cheaper than I could make it.  And the nibs are far from cheap!!
Okay, so what are they good for? ;D ;D
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: Kati*did April 11, 2007, 07:28:46 AM

It's the actual cocoa bean without the shell. 
Okay, so what are they good for?  I was under the impression that cocoa powder was minus the cocoa butter, but the bean would still contain the butter needed to make real chocolate.  So does this mean you could grind them up, add sweetner and make your own dark chocolate?
Yeah...I think so.  But I wouldn't use nibs for that because I can buy chocolate with very little "added" (Lindt 85% is my favorite) for cheaper than I could make it.  And the nibs are far from cheap!!
Okay, so what are they good for? ;D ;D

They're crunchy and they're chocolate!!!  What aren't they good for?   ;D ;D  LOL.  Ok...they supposedly have incredible health benefits.  I mentioned ways of using them above.  I LOVE them in chocolate bars because of the crunchiness and the flavor.  If you make a chocolate cake with a ganache on top, they're great to sprinkle on top.  (OH, YUM). 

I meant to post this site earlier that tells the process from nibs to chocolate:
http://www.itdg.org/docs/technical_information_service/cocoa_and_chocolate.pdf

I typed "cocoa nib" into the google search bar and came up with lots of recipes/uses.

I found this recipe for icecream.  Sounds good!
http://habeasbrulee.com/2006/03/13/cocoa-nib-ice-cream/

Cocoa Nib Ice Cream
1 1/2 C heavy cream
1 1/2 C whole milk
1/4 C cocoa nibs, finely chopped
1/2 C sugar
1/8 tsp salt
Additional cocoa nibs, to be used as a topping

Bring all ingredients (except those nibs which are to sprinked on as a topping later) to boil over medium heat. Remove from heat, cover, and let steep for about 20 minutes. After the mixture has had a chance to steep, strain it through a fine strainer and/or cheesecloth, making sure to squeeze all the liquid out of the cocoa nibs, which are then discarded. Refrigerate and then freeze in your ice cream maker.

When serving, sprinkle on some extra, unsteeped cocoa nibs on as a topping. The contrasting texture and concentrated bursts of flavor perfect the experience.

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: healthyinOhio April 11, 2007, 07:31:56 AM
Are the nasty tasting cocoa nibs just made without any sweetener to them?  Maybe this is why they tasted so gross?
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: healthybratt April 11, 2007, 08:28:13 AM
What's ganache ???   ::)  Seeeeeee!  I DON't know EVERYTHING.   ;D
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: Kati*did April 11, 2007, 08:37:27 AM
What's ganache ???   ::)  Seeeeeee!  I DON't know EVERYTHING.   ;D

 ;D ;D  Ok, ok...you only know the IMPORTANT things.  ;)  A ganache is kind of like a cross between a frosting and a fudge (although to call it either is kind of an insult  ;)) that you can use to glaze a cake or fill truffles.  Super rich...a mixture of pretty equal weights of chocolate (dark, not milk) and heavy cream.  If you want a ganache sauce, I think you add a little more cream than chocolate.
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: daisey April 11, 2007, 08:40:30 AM
Are the nasty tasting cocoa nibs just made without any sweetener to them?  Maybe this is why they tasted so gross?

From what I understand they are the cocoa without the shell.   They are the highest magnesium content of all foods and are a natural anti-depressant.  They are supposed to be good for people who suffer from migraines.  That is why I got them, thought I would have a good tasting/natural  headache remedy.   ::)  So much for that idea!   :-\    I think a person could eat them in a snack mix that had something sweet in it to balance the  'bitterness'?   In their natural state they are not the slightest bit sweet.   :(
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: goatgal April 11, 2007, 08:51:12 AM
Dr. Donsbach, a pioneer in holistic health, has made a chocolate bar that he recommends for his cancer patients, all of the benefits without the sugar. He claims chocolate is one of the most powerful known anti-oxidants.  (He claims melatonin is more powerful yet).  His hospital has one of the greatest success rates internationally, so he may have something there.  His chocolate bars are the yummiest, according to me :)   You can buy them at www.letstalkhealth.com
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: daisey April 11, 2007, 09:09:20 AM
http://gourmetsleuth.com/search.asp?search=cocoa+nibs+recipe&SrchType=ALL

Hope this works.  I've never put in a web link before.   Anyway, it is a site with some recipes for Cocoa nibs.  I haven't tried any of these yet but there are a couple that look interesting.

http://www.scharffenberger.com/NEart4.asp

Here is another one that tells about the nibs themselves.
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: healthyinOhio April 11, 2007, 02:52:45 PM
  You can buy them at www.letstalkhealth.com

Is the chocolate the one that is sugar free?  Does it have any sweetener in it?  Is it really that good?
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: littlewife April 12, 2007, 12:57:32 PM
Does anyone have a good recipe for chocolate chip cookies? If it used honey instead of sugar that would be even better! (wouldn't that make it a healthy cookie?! woohoo!)
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: hi_itsgwen October 12, 2008, 03:34:17 PM
Does anyone have a good recipe for chocolate chip cookies? If it used honey instead of sugar that would be even better! (wouldn't that make it a healthy cookie?! woohoo!)

My friend created this recipe for 'healthy' chocolate chip cookies, and they are incredible.  I was sceptical about the spice, but it's a tiny amount, and doesn't compete with the chocolate at all...it lends a nice background flavor.

She uses Sucanat (3/4 c) + Sucanat with honey (1/2) to sweeten. 
I used Zulka (unrefined cane juice crystals). 

Oatmeal Chocolate Chunk Cookies

1 c. butter, creamed
1 1/4 c. sugar or equivalent sweetner of your choice
1 egg
1 t. vanilla extract
1/2 t. salt
1 t. baking soda
1/8-1/4 t. nutmeg
1/2 t. cinnamon
1 c. flour
3 c. old fashioned oats
1 1/2 - 2 c. choc. chunks (Ghirradelli recommended)

Cream together wet ingredients.  Measure out dry ingredients (except chocolate chunks) into a mound on wax paper, blending together a bit.  Add dry ingedients into butter mixture in three batches, combining well between each addition.  Add chocolate chunks last and blend in.

Preheat oven to 375.  Bake for about 9-11 min for crunchy cookies, or 6-9 min. for chewy cookies.  I love them chewy, and so I bake just until the edges are pale brown and the centers still look raw.  They'll conintue to bake and set up after you take them out of the oven.

Yield: approx. 2 dozen cookies.
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: HappyWifey October 12, 2008, 06:29:21 PM
My hubby is quite convinced that chocolate any wya is bad for you. I would love to be able to show him that it is not because I much prefer chocolate of carob, although carob peanut chews are SO good! Anyway does anyone know why it is assumed that even dark chocolate is bad for you, and why it may be good for you?
: Re: Chocolate a health food?
: MamaSong October 13, 2008, 03:21:45 AM
Chocolate gets its bad reputation because it is typically associated with candy/dessert/sugar.  It also contains the stimulant theobromine which is similar to caffeine (see http://www.xocoatl.org/caffeine.htm for details).  It makes you feels good and people crave it, so that automaticaly makes it suspect to some folks.

Dark chocolate is full of antioxidants and has been shown to lower blood pressure.
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: CountyCork October 13, 2008, 03:47:05 AM
And chocolate can make an otherwise nuts-o woman very happy and content, and mental health is important, too!   ;)
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: floydian October 13, 2008, 08:33:45 AM
And chocolate can make an otherwise nuts-o woman very happy and content, and mental health is important, too!   ;)

Yep.  Dark chocolate is definitely a health food.  I agree with CC.  You can tell your poor dh that every woman will agree that chocolate is very healthy and that every woman on the planet instinctively knows this!!  ;D
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: prairiechild October 13, 2008, 08:52:12 AM
Chocolate is high in magnesium and chocolate cravings can be a sign of magnesium deficiency.
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: hi_itsgwen October 13, 2008, 10:43:09 AM
I liked chocolate as a kid.  But after having my first baby, I LIKE chocolate in a much more committed way.  I do think it has something to do with craving minerals.  I find that once a month, or after I have a baby, I especially crave chocolate. 

Regarding Magnesium, this is a trace mineral that has a very important role in cell health.  Magnesium deficiency is linked to hyper-activity, insomnia, etc.  I have been doing some research on it.  Unrefined cane sugar, soaked or fermented grains, and chocolate all have magnesium content.  (Eating white, refined sugar requires magnesium, so it robs your body of this important mineral.)

I like to think it's the cure for 'Mom brain'.  ;D  Yes, I'm sure of it.  I think much more clearly after crunching on a handful of frozen chocolate chunks.  ;) 

My hubby is quite convinced that chocolate any way is bad for you.

There is no law that chocolate has to be shared with your hubby.   ;D  Just think of it as 'more for me!'
My hubby loves chocolate too, and introduced me to the pleasure of dark chocolates...but he get's into my stash unless I hide it well. 

One of my buddies saved a leftover bag from frozen peas, rinsed it out, and keeps her chocolate in that in the freezer.  Now this is a woman committed to her chocolate.  (An empty oatmeal canister works well for this too!)
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: tynnille October 13, 2008, 11:13:49 AM

Does anyone have a good recipe for chocolate chip cookies? If it used honey instead of sugar that would be even better! (wouldn't that make it a healthy cookie?! woohoo!)
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I use this recipe for my "healthy cookies". However, you still need to have some self-control becasue you can still get fat eating these guys simply because of the extra calories added. i tried to add a good amount of protien and coconut ro help slow the sugar release into the body. Here it is:

Choc-PB-Oat-Nut Cookies (or whatever you wnat to call them)

1 3/4 C. Whole Wheat Pastry or Spelt flour
1/3 C. Shredded Coconut
1 t. baking soda
1/2 t. salt
2 1/2 C. Rolled Oats
1/2-3/4 C. Chopped walnuts (or as much as you want)
2 C. Ghardelli 60% Chocolate Chips

1 1/2 C. Sucanut
1 C. butter, softened (or substitute half coconut oil)
2 large eggs
2 T. milk
1/2 C. Peanut Butter

Mix lower ingredients. add top ingredients. Mix well. Add chips. Bake at 375 for 8-9 minutes (if you like a gooey cookie). Cool for a minute. Place on wax paper or a cooling rack.
For a bar variation. Spread batter onto a large cookie sheet, bake for 12-15 minutes. This way avoiding the 'last batch of cookies burned syndrome' that happens too regularly at my house.

These should be like a monster cookie in flavor. They are my favorite.  They are a hit for those who think you can't use whole grains in cookies.
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: freshisbest October 14, 2008, 11:32:01 AM
We melt chocolate ( small bag choc chips or equivalent) and add 1 cup of peanut butter. Maybe its 2 cups choc/1 cup peanut butter? then stir in a bag of chow mein noodles. But I've also stirred in breakfast cereal and nuts...or you could do raisins and nuts too I guess. Drop them onto wax paper and if you put them in the fridge they harden faster. I'm assuming the chow mein noodels are the ' unhealthy ' part but due to white flour not any artificial ingredients. I can find organic choc chips in the regular grocery store.
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: hi_itsgwen October 14, 2008, 03:57:31 PM
We do the same thing, essentially, but stir in old-fashioned oats.  Yum!
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: Jade January 22, 2009, 06:10:27 AM
Does anyone know of a good place to get recipes using raw cacao and honey (as opposed to agave nectar)? I have a cookbook loaded with fancy schmancy raw desserts, and some of them use raw cacao, but they ALL use agave nectar, which I don't feel comfortable using. I'd like to use raw honey instead, but I'm not sure how well it'll work as a substitute, as the texture of my raw honey is not "pourable" like the agave nectar is. Also, most of the recipes call for these exotic ingredients that I can't obtain or afford.

I'm trying to create a beautiful, luscious-looking (and tasting!) dessert for my husband for Valentine's Day, but his diet is restricted right now. So I'd like to utilize these ingredients: a nut butter OTHER than peanuts, raw cacao, possible raw cacao butter or paste, and raw honey. Dairy is not off-limits, so that opens up a world of possibilties.  :)

Any ideas?